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Hahahaha, I can't get enough of this. Solaire's intense awakening/praising is hilarious!
Japanese folk sure are productive even when out of a job xD
wow! why was this never linked here before, this is amazing.
Thursday War
Banned
wat?
hahahahahahahaha what is that
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Holy shit that's amazing.
Skeleton baby. They inflict toxic damage and infinitely respawn in the Tomb of the Giants.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Not sure if legit but here are the stats for the starter classes:
http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Starting+Classes
http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Starting+Classes
Holy shit at the Deprived. I guess From realized the Club was actually a decent weapon, but I like
starting at level 1
I think I'll start with the Explorer, just in case
any of those items turn out to be interesting or lore-related.
-MD-
Member
Goin swordsman if real.
The Knight starting stats are pretty good for a melee build.
Almost 95% perfect stats allotment imo.
Low Attunement/Int, high in Adapt/Vigor, and decent in str.
Oh neat, didn't know they found out starting stats for explorer and bandit.
Looking like Cleric is by far the best choice for strength/faith. Too many high dex classes.
Twenty7KVN
Member
I might start with the deprived class for shits and giggles.
Caffeine
Member
I died so good.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Deprived is the manliest way to play
I'm the opposite. It doesn't feel like a real world to explore when you warp to 5 different worlds via statue like its Mario 64 jumping through a painting in the castle.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
From reddit:
Warrior: 12
Knight: 13
Swordsman: 12
Bandit: 12
Cleric: 14
Sorcerer: 11
Explorer: 10
Deprived: 1
Knight IS the best choice, even compared to Deprived. I don't see the missing 5% allotment. vs the all 6 you get -3 Int and -2 Attunement. You need base str to wield most weapons, so those points arent wasted for a Dex build. Adap seems like Endurance a must have to a certain cap. I'll prolly pick him. First time I won't go with hybrid as starter... Silver Knight Spear was just way too much fun to not go with a spear from the get go this time ago.
also, thx Darth Zandatsu.
Full starting stats also on reddit or no?
Deprived is lvl 1 but I wonder if that class is truly the best "clean slate" like Pyromancer was in Dark Souls 1. Knight has 3 less intelligence points and 1 less attunement which could go elsewhere, and starts with a good amount of vigor and adaptability, and has decent STR/DEX. Hmm...
What happened to the Hunter? Ugh I really don't wanna be a bandit just to start with a bow, not that it matters much. I was just looking forward to the hunter :/
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
What happened to the Wanderer? Did he become the Explorer?
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Wanderer became Swordsman, it even has the same armor set.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Going with Knight. Deprived is deceiving. Its not as specialised.
Interesting. I think I'll go either Swordsman or Explorer (dat monacle) for my first run.
Some nice variety there. I'm even tempted by the Bandit and Knight (just for their look and roleplay), but that's what subsequent playthroughs are for
Can't wait!I'd like to go strength but it feels too limiting if they don't have some kind of decent ranged attacks. They could give them throwing axes or something which they may or may not have done since I'm trying to avoid too many spoilers.
I'm tempted to play a cleric and try a little harder to make use of their range of miracles. The thing that scares me is it was easy to miss a bunch of the best miracles in the first play through of DS1.
decisions decisions...
I'm tempted to play a cleric and try a little harder to make use of their range of miracles. The thing that scares me is it was easy to miss a bunch of the best miracles in the first play through of DS1.
decisions decisions...
The_Hitcher89
Member
Wasn't one of the Longbows in DS1 Strength-based?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
The reason pure STr builds sucked in Dark Souls is because the ultra greatswords movesets sucked and were nearly all the same.
Dragon Bone Smasher had a godly move set and justified STr build in demons souls single handily.
Playing the beta, the Pursuer greatsword already has a much better moveset than every ultra greatsword in Dark Souls. Relatively quick vertical strikes, combos, spinning attacks and thrust attacks.
I'm placing faith with FROM will do STR builds some justice this time.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
I hope FROM buffed fist weapons this time, as unarmed now does substancial damage
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I'm actually thinking of having gauntlets as a secondary since its the only quick STR scaling weapon in these games.
It's not just the dex I may or may not have to use it's also the upgrade materials I'll need for it.
Sounds good, I can't wait to try it out.
snesfanboy
Banned
yes and no
when i first got in the caves, i saw the butterflies from far away and since there wasn't that much space to fight them, i thought 'better hit them with bows from far', which worked wonders
after 5 tries and dying by falling from an invisible path and as such losing a lot of arrows, i said 'fuck it, i'm going melee' and learned that they can't be hit and the magic damage was too much, it was the last time i tried that
1 of the most important lessons i learned : no matter which build you use, ALWAYS have a bow and/or crossbow with you
SonicXtreme
Member
Running on foot from the painted world to the tomb of the giants would take about the same time as it takes to beat super metroid lol
AKingNamedPaul
I am Homie
Every souls game. I decide I'm going some sort of status effect, dagger, archer, stealth build no matter how hard the pve is and I end up pissed off at the game. Come back to it after a few months with an open mind and enjoy other builds.
This will be no different. #BanditLife
This will be no different. #BanditLife
For my first playthrough, I'm not worried about min/max. I'll pick the starting class based on feel. So I'll just make a gut choice -- Maybe something like bandit, that spikey helmet looks cool. Invariably I feel like I'll be pulled either towards a "quality" build (high str + high dex) or towards a faith + str build (my first character in Dark Souls was faith + str, and maybe I'll do this again for old time's sake).
If I WAS going to min max, I'd avoid warrior/bandit/exporer, reason being they each have a cumulative 10 in faith/int, with them both being equal. Since other classes have a lower than 5 in at least one of those two stats, it means at least one point is wasted if you pick w/b/e. And, in fact, unless you plan to go with an int build, Knight seems to be the best choice of any class. 3 int.
Extra note, Deprived actually seems to be kind of pointless from a min/max perspective this time, if these stast are true, because 6 faith and 6 int doesn't min max into anything (unless you want to make a faith + int character, which seems somewhat unlikely).
Extra note 2: Curious that Knight doesn't start with a shield, when more than anyone, the Knight seems to be the tank character, characterized by the use of a shield. I think this is just kind of From Soft being From Soft.
To the extent that starting things matter, I'd say Swordsman and Cleric are interesting choices. The swordsman starts with upgraded sword(s), which should be notable early on. Cleric starts with heal, which should be extremely useful (if Dark Souls 1 is any indication) especially to the inexperienced Souls player.
Invariably I feel like I'll be pulled either towards a "quality" build (high str + high dex) or towards a faith + str build (my first character in Dark Souls was faith + str, and maybe I'll do this again for old time's sake).If I WAS going to min max, I'd avoid warrior/bandit/exporer, reason being they each have a cumulative 10 in faith/int, with them both being equal. Since other classes have a lower than 5 in at least one of those two stats, it means at least one point is wasted if you pick w/b/e. And, in fact, unless you plan to go with an int build, Knight seems to be the best choice of any class. 3 int.
Extra note, Deprived actually seems to be kind of pointless from a min/max perspective this time, if these stast are true, because 6 faith and 6 int doesn't min max into anything (unless you want to make a faith + int character, which seems somewhat unlikely).
Extra note 2: Curious that Knight doesn't start with a shield, when more than anyone, the Knight seems to be the tank character, characterized by the use of a shield. I think this is just kind of From Soft being From Soft.
To the extent that starting things matter, I'd say Swordsman and Cleric are interesting choices. The swordsman starts with upgraded sword(s), which should be notable early on. Cleric starts with heal, which should be extremely useful (if Dark Souls 1 is any indication) especially to the inexperienced Souls player.
Well, this time around it REALLY doesn't matter what class you pick. Anyone really can be whatever they want when they grow up.
My first character will be either strength-based or int-based, not sure yet. And I'm in the start-a-new-character vs respec camp, so if I want to try a different build it means a whole different toon.
I get the respec, and I see its value to some people, but if I change my STR warrior to a dex build to try that out... What happens when I want to play at STR again? Nope. Need two toons.
My first character will be either strength-based or int-based, not sure yet. And I'm in the start-a-new-character vs respec camp, so if I want to try a different build it means a whole different toon.
I get the respec, and I see its value to some people, but if I change my STR warrior to a dex build to try that out... What happens when I want to play at STR again? Nope. Need two toons.
who am I kidding? I'll need 5 toons
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
For my first playthrough, I'm not worried about min/max. I'll pick the starting class based on feel. So I'll just make a gut choice -- Maybe something like bandit, that spikey helmet looks cool.
If I WAS going to min max, I'd avoid warrior/bandit/exporer, reason being they each have a cumulative 10 in faith/int, with them both being equal. Since other classes have a lower than 5 in at least one of those two stats, it means at least one point is wasted if you pick w/b/e. And, in fact, unless you plan to go with an int build, Knight seems to be the best choice of any class. 3 int.
Extra note, Deprived actually seems to be kind of pointless from a min/max perspective this time, if these stast are true, because 6 faith and 6 int doesn't min max into anything (unless you want to make a faith + int character, which seems somewhat unlikely).
Extra note 2: Curious that Knight doesn't start with a shield, when more than anyone, the Knight seems to be the tank character, characterized by the use of a shield. I think this is just kind of From Soft being From Soft.
To the extent that starting things matter, I'd say Swordsman and Cleric are interesting choices. The swordsman starts with upgraded sword(s), which should be notable early on. Cleric starts with heal, which should be extremely useful (if Dark Souls 1 is any indication) especially to the inexperienced Souls player.
Yup deprived is useless this time it seems.
Knight is not a tank character by any means. No shield is probably to counter act his high stats. Good STR and DEX and high Vigor and high adaptability.
Sentenza
Member
The most important lesson you should have learned there is "don't attack what is not attacking you unless you are sure of what you're doing".yes and no
when i first got in the caves, i saw the butterflies from far away and since there wasn't that much space to fight them, i thought 'better hit them with bows from far', which worked wonders
after 5 tries and dying by falling from an invisible path and as such losing a lot of arrows, i said 'fuck it, i'm going melee' and learned that they can't be hit and the magic damage was too much, it was the last time i tried that
1 of the most important lessons i learned : no matter which build you use, ALWAYS have a bow and/or crossbow with you
Sentenza
Member
Isn't the other way around?
Being the only class that starts at level 1 should now make it the to-go class for min-maxing (unless his starting stats are far more terrible than competing options).
No, because you start with 6 faith and 6 int, no matter what, you have "wasted" points in one or the other. Other choices have a lower faith or lower int. The point being that few if any builds ever call for faith AND int to be raised, therefore anything with more points allocated to both is a waste and thus not "min-max" friendly.
ebullientprism
Member
Swordsman for me I think. High DEX FTW!
Lmao, what a bizarre but hilarious crossover.
Did I miss something about the deprived class in Dark Souls 1? The new deprived doesn't seem as useless as the old to me. 6 in all stats > 11 in all stats.
And pyromancies/hexes require both faith and intelligence, if I'm not completely mistaken.