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BadBreathOfTheWild
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Its gonna be funny when the 2tf advantage ends up showing up in a few extra particle effects and the 50% IO advantage, half a second quicker loading times.
Multiplats will be basically the same, and the only real differences may appear in the 1st party titles.
Same as always.
Basically what every sniff of genuine insider information has been saying since before we knew the specifications of either console.
You’re going to need Digital Foundry zoom ins and slow motion shots to point out the differences.
As engines continue to shift towards fixed target frame rates and variable dynamic resolution there’s not going to be much to see from counting frames either.
And frame drops during some scenes are typically CPU bound or caused by cache inefficiencies or memory fetch latencies rather than running out of raw GPU compute capacity.
What separates each console will come down to their unique games. And not just single system sellers but spread and variety of unique games also. Targeting ease of development and removing a lot of the complexity that was previously required could make it a golden era of games.
The console that will have the most graphically impressive game will come down to the talent of the artists and programmers of an individual studio, not a GPU.
Dibils2k
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if the particles are visibly different it will send the internet into a craze, people went crazy over some grass missing on xbox version of gta5Its gonna be funny when the 2tf advantage ends up showing up in a few extra particle effects and the 50% IO advantage, half a second quicker loading times.
Multiplats will be basically the same, and the only real differences may appear in the 1st party titles.
Same as always.
Just skip this one and wait for the next. Then it will be a huge jump.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
jesus, i havent seen a burn like this since harvey dent in the dark knight.
TLZ
Banned
We all know Tom's an idiot anyway.
Can someone tell me what vetting is done by the mod(s) to confirm a post from a dev is genuine? Is this vetting process 'really' flawless? What are the chances of me fabricating something here and successfully passing it through vetting??
I assure you I've got no nefarious intentions ...just interested that's all
I assure you I've got no nefarious intentions ...just interested that's all
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Neo Blaster
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Three Jackdaws
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Anyone know what is the equivalent of the Zen 2 CPU found within PS5 and Series X? as in which off the shelf AMD CPU could we expect to have the same performance as the next-gen consoles?
Digital Foundry described the current to next-gen CPU jump as a "truly generational leap" so curious to see what kind of FPS numbers PS5 or Series X will be able to hit on games like Witcher 3 or AC Unity.
Digital Foundry described the current to next-gen CPU jump as a "truly generational leap" so curious to see what kind of FPS numbers PS5 or Series X will be able to hit on games like Witcher 3 or AC Unity.
icy121
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I would've posted this sooner - but much like Warren, many gaming journalists and influencers are waayyyy out of their depth when discussing tech-specs. It's a cringey, honestly.
saintjules
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
Tom Warren getting roasted hehe....
MasterCornholio
Member
I know it won't be as easy as flipping a switch but it shouldn't be difficult for developers to make the game run on Lockhart. The reason why I say this is that Lockharts architecture will be very similar to the XSXs. If Lockhart had a completely different design then I could see it as a problem. However that's not the case here.
icerock
Member
No need to go that far, there’s been one recently. I suggest digging through Schreiers post history on the other site, he pulled out an absolute heater on one of the resident devs here. It wasn’t pretty.
MasterCornholio
Member
You're not going to pass off a DualShock 4 controller as a Dual Sense controller right?
gamechanger87
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I didn’t know that 5nm chips were already in production. Can someone tell AMD? I mean seriously, you all are going to hang your hat on a tweet from a person who is mentioning a spec APU that literally isn’t even in AMDs pipeline for the next 18 months per AMD themselves.
Matts comments makes no sense.
At this point he’s salty. He doesn’t know anything. Y’all need to be smarter. AMD has no 5nm chips per AMD Ignore Him.
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Three Jackdaws
Unconfirmed Member
You're not going to pass off a DualShock 4 controller as a Dual Sense controller right?
maybe even use some pigeons! cucoo!
MasterCornholio
Member
maybe even use some pigeons! cucoo!
Not those dirty flying rats I already have PTSD from those things.
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Three Jackdaws
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a lot of us on this thread have pigeon PTSD......Not those dirty flying rats I already have PTSD from those things.
cough*odium*cough
MasterCornholio
Member
It was so bad that even N4G was affected by them.
Neo Blaster
Member
Oh, boy, time to back off before it's too late...
MasterCornholio
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BattleScar
Member
Tom Warren doesn't know what he's talking about, but from what I've seen, neither does Hargett.
You mean the guy claiming next gen consoles are on 5 nm is trying to call someone else out.
icerock
Member
That went straight over you head, whoosh!
Matt is taking the piss out of him. He’s suggesting 20 CUs on an even advanced node would be fit for the purpose of a handled at 720/1080p, which Lockhart is not. Its a full fledged next-gen console meant to last next 7-8 years.
Neo Blaster
Member
Why would a former PS5 engineer know about Lockart? I really think all that stuff about '5nm portable' was just him mocking up.
gamechanger87
Member
Can you Tell me what the 4d chess was?
Tom Warren talking about a 20 CU 7nm chip for a small form size 1080p console makes sense.
what they heck does a 5nm chip have anything to do with it?
AMD won’t be on 20 CU for 2 years. Matt knows shit.
20 CU was theorized on the github leai. Which has been correct for the most part. what has Matt said that is anyway in the realm of possibility. Can you point me to one thing he’ssaid that that has been accurate?
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Nah nothing like that. Whats with all the pigeon references? I'm feeling left out on the inside jokeYou're not going to pass off a DualShock 4 controller as a Dual Sense controller right?
I'm referring to a recent post claiming inside info from a dev. I'm not gonna call it out as BS till I got some facts right... but it sure smells like sircaw's breath
Sorry sircaw don't take it personally, I needed a fishy reference
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Three Jackdaws
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Nah nothing like that. Whats with all the pigeon references? I'm feeling left out on the inside joke
I'm referring to a recent post claiming inside info from a dev. I'm not gonna call it out as BS till I got some facts right... but it sure smells like sircaw's breath
Sorry sircaw don't take it personally, I needed a fishy reference
Awwh come on, try me. I hate being late to the party and missing out the fun. It's like hearing the punchline without the joke
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
odium used to be a gaf insider, talked about pigeons a lot. not sure why. he got owned by jason schrier on era after odium shared a doctored video of him saying he hates all xbox fanboys. jason then posted the non doctored video of him saying he hates all fanboys, and odium was banned soon after that.
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Three Jackdaws
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Was just kidding around....I look for any excuse to use that Joker meme lol
But yeah if you want an explanation...well...where do I even start?
There once was a man named Odium on this thread, he was a console enthusiast and also a part time pigeon whisperer.
Long story short, he claimed to know the PS5 specs and this was before Cerny’s tech talk, him being a a pigeon whisperer, naturally he decided to communicate these specs in pigeon language.
Here is what manifested from that communication and I’m sorry to all those who are still suffering pigeon trauma thanks to this pic
Yes I know, it’s horrible to look at. The amount of cucoos was meant to be the amount of CU’s in the PS5 and the 1600 on the address was supposed to be the clock speed. Wrong I know. I’m actually losing brain cells writing this lol
After Odium was proved wrong he disappeared from this thread, however legend has it he will return one day as a fully fledged pigeon in attempts to communicate his tech wisdom in cucoo language. The End.
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Gotta say that's just straight up weird! Not sure to laugh or say 'eh?'. I guess odium himself was a Xbox fan pretending to be an insider??
Thanks for filling in the blank tho
Oh wow, but how the fook were we supposed to interpret that, couldn't get more ambiguous then that!! Coo coo ROFLWas just kidding around....I look for any excuse to use that Joker meme lol
But yeah if you want an explanation...well...where do I even start?
There once was a man named Odium on this thread, he was a console enthusiast and also a part time pigeon whisperer.
Long story short, he claimed to know the PS5 specs and this was before Cerny’s tech talk, him being a a pigeon whisperer, naturally he decided to communicate these specs in pigeon language.
Here is what manifested from that communication and I’m sorry to all those who are still suffering pigeon trauma thanks to this pic
Yes I know, it’s horrible to look at. The amount of cucoos was meant to be the amount of CU’s in the PS5 and the 1600 on the address was supposed to be the clock speed. Wrong I know. I’m actually losing brain cells writing this lol
After Odium was proved wrong he disappeared from this thread, however legend has it he will return one day as a fully fledged pigeon in attempts to communicate his tech wisdom in cucoo language. The End.
Thanks man, now I feel complete
DeeDogg_
Banned
That’s basically every tweet relating to it since December although the PS5 is bigger
lepermessiah
Member
All of this is getting a little maddening lmao
My authority is beginning to slip and curl up with a nice juicy set of ray traced buns, per pixel shaded, glazed Spence ham.
My authority is beginning to slip and curl up with a nice juicy set of ray traced buns, per pixel shaded, glazed Spence ham.
Well yes in one length, but the XSX is a protruding lump whichever way you lay it. #notwarring
XtremeXpider
Member
like forums discussions? because I think Warren knows more than any of us.
Well, at least you can put it on more than one way without the need of a stand. And XSX is smaller than most people think. And PS5 is larger in two ways, it is larger than XSX.
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PS5 laying flat: width yes, length no, depth not sure yet unless you got info?
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Dave_at_Home
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You realize that Hargett was a principle software engineer on the PS5, right? He obviously doesn't know all the inner workings at Microsoft, but the man has experience in the business of console making and certainly has an understanding of hardware on a level most don't.
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bumleforce
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off subject do ps5 and series x games have 7.1 surround or is it still 5.1? Are surround sound headphones worth it?
Snowdonhoffen
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Both consoles have dedicaded 3D audio chips so I'd say even if some developers don't take advantage of it ,7.1 will be the standard. And answering the second question, yes, a surround headset would be worth it if you are planning to get one
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Barakov
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About time somebody scorched him and his bullshit. 5nm? Get that bullshit out of here.
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And talks about 5nm chips that aren't even out this year as a hardware piece for XSS... So if Tom Warren talks about tech he knows nothing about he's a fanboy and an idiot. If Matt does it it's all good.
thurnishaleygw
Member
That's the point he is making with tom being fast and loose with reporting. Matt is saying that 5nm stuff on purpose as its realm of possibility but likely it wont be as a example of tom reporting. Also matt is former principal PS5 engineer. He knows more than pretty much everyone.
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DeeDogg_
Banned
I hate him and that Jez guy. And that Grubb douche
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Is now people going to say an ex LG and PlayStation engineer knows nothing because he talked about a hypotetical case where there is a 5nm chip?.... wow, how far we've come
PS: Some of the usual suspects already joined the conversation on twitter, funny stuff
PS: Some of the usual suspects already joined the conversation on twitter, funny stuff
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