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Nexus Mods removes anti-gay Baldur's Gate 3 mod (Update: Nexus are too far lost in their sauce)
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Pejo
Member
So was it racist when Disney made Snow White a brown girl? Or is that ok in that direction. Should we have all modders run their stuff by you to make sure it's not racist towards the wrong people?
To be clear, I get what you're saying, and you'll probably find plenty of allies that agree that it's racist, but I don't think making changes like that are inherently evil or bad. Moreover, you shouldn't get to dictate how people want to mod their games as long as it's not having an effect on your experience with the game. But maybe that's just me.
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I just want to clarify, this is under the assumption that the modder caught shit for making a "turn x character white" mod, not if he really went schizo racist with like klansmen hats or something awful. I am unfamiliar with his work, but I see race change mods in the same light as palette swaps from old fighting games that could turn white/asian characters skin brown.
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BlitzerRadic
Member
Man this aint censorship. Dude can say whatever he want but that dont mean anyone have to broadcast his shit for him.
VideoGameEnjoyer
Member
‘Enjoying’ the game by being racist and homophobic? How pathetic, and yes, and it is incredibly ‘fragile’.
Nexus is under no obligation whatsoever to host those mods for this douche if they don’t want to do so.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
StereoVsn
Member
It’s not particularly leftist site. I mean have you seen some of the Skyrim mods, lol?
They just don’t like this particular racist ass. There are plenty of other BG3 mods who change characters all kinds of diff ways.
StereoVsn
Member
I am sure there is mod for that!
Guilty_AI
Member
They removed a mod that let you romance Judy as a male in cyberpunk, while leaving the one that lets you romance Panam as a female.
They're indocrinated alright, they just won't remove the porn and boobs mods because they know their traffic would be cut by half.
Hawking Radiation
Member
StereoVsn
Member
I thought I saw Judy mod there. That’s unfortunate.
U n i o n 0015
Member
Plus the Non-Newtonian New York Spider-Man Remastered mod.
It's pretty clear that the folks who run the site have a particular agenda. I just miss the halcyon days of the internet when I didn't have to care the political ideology of the site admin, they were just a faceless entity that hosted shit like mods. Now I gotta go to the Liberal site for X mod and the Conservative site for Y mod...get the hell outta here with this garbage.
Revolutionary
Member
*continues to adblock Nexus*
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I dont follow nexus mods.
Does nexus have a history of curating political mods? Or is this BG issue more of one-off intervention?
Does nexus have a history of curating political mods? Or is this BG issue more of one-off intervention?
March Climber
Member
I get it. I guess I’m used to the pre-nexus ways of gaming a search engine to find what I want and I simply didn’t mind this, because I modded a ton of games in my early teens.
I guess if you decide to actively look someday and find what you’re looking for, feel free to share on here. I feel that others wouldn’t mind a secondary source for mods as long as the website is safe.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Seems to be that way, from what people are saying. Activism is fine irl, but keep it the fuck out of games I say.
March Climber
Member
Question about this: Did this modder also use AI voices as a replacement method for lines?
Musashipan
Member
And that's the game that supposedly is better than Totk
kruis
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Musashipan
Member
And that's the game that supposedly is better than Totk
SonGoku
Member
I hate these type of comments because it can easily be flipped and just shows bias and gaslighting
"Imagine being this fragile to the point of asking for the removal of a mod like this"
The whole point of the diversity/inclusion in media is allegedly so that people feel "represented and identified". So why does it matter what a niche userbase that mods games to feel "identified and represented" do with their single player game and why does it bother you? judging by the tone of your comment) Video games are a fantasy and escapism medium, people should be able to choose or mod the settings which they find most enjoyable .
Race, gender, sexual orientation, swapping does not incite discrimination, hatred or persecution. With the advent of AI i would hope games would eventually allow for all sorts of customization so people can play in whatever fantasy world setting they find most enjoyable to their identity and tastes. If someone wants to make the whole population gay then more power for him/her and viceversa. It don't bother me in the slightest
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Lucie Goosey
Member
Not sure which side is dumber.
The side of universal stupid.
Or the 'newly' hypocritical attempt by diversity and inclusion to genocide and exile everything they disagree with.
Oh boy, what fun.
The side of universal stupid.
Or the 'newly' hypocritical attempt by diversity and inclusion to genocide and exile everything they disagree with.
Oh boy, what fun.
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Guilty_AI
Member
Nop, both are simple mods that activate unused voice lines within the game.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
more proofs TOTK is GOTY
BadHaircut
Banned
No one is stopping an individual from modding their game. Nexusmods are choosing not to host the mod on their very popular website. It's a simple but critical distinction in every "deplatforming" discussion.
Freedom of speech not freedom of reach and all that jazz.
Rendered Tangent
Banned
Maybe, it's just me, but how bored must you be to actually spend time creating a mod like this?
It's someone who clearly has too much time on their hands.
It's someone who clearly has too much time on their hands.
macfoshizzle
Member
i understand the point of the mod in which i agree with. it's like making a movie about ancient chinese warriors using white actors. though correct me if i'm wrong, isn't baldur's gate based on d&d and it's world?
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Barakov
Gold Member
Is he any different than BBC or Hollywood changing a character's race to fit their agenda?
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Why people care what mods are there? It is not like anybody is forcing them to install that mode.
It is always fascinating how relatively unimportant thing that does not affect anybody causes outrages.
It is always fascinating how relatively unimportant thing that does not affect anybody causes outrages.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
This isn’t Insomniac!So it’s ok to turn straight characters gay but not the other way around.
Hmmm interesting
Pejo
Member
Did you mean to reply to me? That's not what my post was about. This is just one of those canned responses that you'd see on the purple place to justify the narrative being on the "right" side. I wasn't arguing that they don't have the right to take it down. Your post is like "well if x = y, then a isn't b!"
Majormaxxx
Member
By this logic the whole trans movement is homophobic...
.. It kinda is in part, yeah
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
BadHaircut
Banned
Yes. Although specifically addressing your line about not dictating what others are modding.
I just wanted to highlight that the mod still exists and if someone wants to install it, it's perfectly doable.
Soodanim
Gold Member
Like clockwork.
- Make controversial mod
- Upload to Nexus under new account because you know it's getting taken down and banned
- Nexus takes it down and bans
- Site writes article and Nexus provides a statement
- Free advertising for the controversial mod that was always hosted elsewhere - goal achieved
Gojiira
Member
Nexus has been going downhill for ages now, scummy practices and censorship. This is just ridiculous tbh, if the mod author wants to make his game less representative thats fine, its your choice not to engage with it. But its funny how Nexus has zero issues with modders making gay content for straight characters or even gender bending male characters into female….
Hugare
Member
He made this mod to be a part of the "No Alphabets" pack.
Imagine him making a mod that removed every black person in the game and made it part of a mod pack called "No N*". Would you still have the same opinion? Doesnt that incite discrimination enough?
I wouldnt have a problem with it if it wasnt for the mod pack. There he showed his true colors.
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Guilty_AI
Member
Isn't race swapping something Disney and many other media have been doing for years tho?
Hugare
Member
Disney isnt putting a tagline in the movies written "No white trash".
As I said before, my problem with it is putting the mod in a "No Alphabets" pack. Its like removing black NPCs and putting it in the "No N*" pack.
You really dont see the problem with it? There's no point in discussing if you dont.
captainnapalm
Member
Ah yes, the so-called progressively touchy-feely inclusive "good guys", banning anything they disagree with. Sounds about right.
Meanwhile, I'm actually interested in this mod. Nightsong ruined the whole game for me. The wokeness was being kept in check up to that point where the entire end of the second act of their game is given over to this insane mockery of a man with tits. Hey I'm super lesbian, let me smash my girlfriend's disapproving father's face in before I go and scissor her in bed. I'm super lesbian! It was just so unbelievably cringeworthy. The irony being that if the character were a man, hr would never get away with behaving like that. Just shows you how insanely confused and ridiculous woke ideology is.
Meanwhile, I'm actually interested in this mod. Nightsong ruined the whole game for me. The wokeness was being kept in check up to that point where the entire end of the second act of their game is given over to this insane mockery of a man with tits. Hey I'm super lesbian, let me smash my girlfriend's disapproving father's face in before I go and scissor her in bed. I'm super lesbian! It was just so unbelievably cringeworthy. The irony being that if the character were a man, hr would never get away with behaving like that. Just shows you how insanely confused and ridiculous woke ideology is.
Krappadizzle
Member
2 arguments in this thread that people seem to not understand. Or seemingly people don't seem to see.
If you want to argue that people saying/doing/thinking things you don't like on a certain platform deserves to be deplatformed should kind of keep that same energy across the board at the minimum.
It's also a single player game, it's not as if you are forced to download or even share/talk/etc about it. You know how many insane ass mods on Nexus for Skyrim exist that I simply said....hmmm....noooope. Not for me, moving on...
Like why even waste the time or energy? Ya'll aren't emotionally exhausted all the time championing such ridiculous causes?
- Those thinking that this is a freedom of speech/censorship thing.
- Those thinking the mod author is a racist douche person and don't want him platformed.
If you want to argue that people saying/doing/thinking things you don't like on a certain platform deserves to be deplatformed should kind of keep that same energy across the board at the minimum.
It's also a single player game, it's not as if you are forced to download or even share/talk/etc about it. You know how many insane ass mods on Nexus for Skyrim exist that I simply said....hmmm....noooope. Not for me, moving on...
Like why even waste the time or energy? Ya'll aren't emotionally exhausted all the time championing such ridiculous causes?
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Guilty_AI
Member
So its just the name you have a problem with? You would be 100% perfectly fine with the mod if instead of "No alphabets" was just called "straighter faeron" or some other thing, and you wouldn't be complaining right now?
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