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NFL Week 8 Thread: The Power of Lord Brady Compels You!
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Wellington
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SickBoy said:
I think Eli is the better of the three because he is succeeding inspite of a coaching staff that tried to destroy him early on.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3085552
Im estimating no less than 4 Picks for Clemens!!!
But BETTER LATE THAN NEVER!!
BE SCARED SKINS!
J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETSSSS!!!!
WOOHOO KELLEN CLEMENS IS HERE!!!
Im estimating no less than 4 Picks for Clemens!!!
But BETTER LATE THAN NEVER!!
BE SCARED SKINS!
J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETSSSS!!!!
Gigglepoo said:
Well Anderson played pretty poorly when given a shot in the preseason games. I think the coaching staff wanted to go with Anderson because of what he showed in practice and training camp but Frye did outplay him in the actual games. Plus, Frye was a hometown player. Anderson has a cannon and was prone to poor decision making but I guess the improved oline play and knowing he wasn't competing with Frye for a job anymore made a world of difference.
Remember when the media was convinced for a long time that Kordell was going to be a superstar. Back then it was always: "Once he learns how to throw in the pocket he will be unstoppable."Spectral Glider said:
I actually think Kordell had more positive national media in his first 3 years than Ben did.
For my money I think that Ben is the 3rd best quarterback in the league (if you include relatives of Satan).
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bionic77 said:
Oh, I remember. He got more positive press because he was somewhat a "name" player (helped by his hail mary to beat Michigan) coming from a bigger school on the national scene. That's how it always is with the media. It looked good in 97 and then it was all downhill from there.
at this point I seriously hope the bengals finish 6-10 at the best. another 8-8 finish is just a shitty moral victory where they'll be stuck in no man's land in the draft again, and 6-10 or worse would hopefully motivate the team to get some talent and players with more heart.
all I want to see returning next year are Jonathon Joseph (not looking so great now that he has a starting job, but it's because of all the shit he has to do to make up for the laughably bad front 7), Leon Hall, Robert Geathers, John Thornton, Domata Peko, Ahmad Brooks and Landon Johnson.
I know none of those names mean shit to fans of teams with real defenses, or even average defenses, but those guys are the only ones who seem to play hard out of the starters (brooks is hurt though) and that's 3 dline players, 2 LBs and the 2 corners of the future for this team (unless Hall is a bust, but he's shown some greatness when he isn't making rookie mistakes). Well, ok, Justin Smith also plays hard, but he's going to get a big contract from someone else and tally up a 15 sack season next year. I just hope they can draft Dorsey, Woodyard (or anyone better at LB, but I don't really keep up on college ball) or if both of those guys are gone or they have the like #3 overall pick, McFadden just so they could grind it out. I hope they find someone willing to take on Chris Henry for a decent draft pick, especially if that pick could get them a real quality sleeper pick at LB.
I really hate the bengals' schemes on defense, but it's supposed to be built a lot like the colts' D. It's meant to be something where you have speedy guys who can stop plays and cover different stuff, so I guess it's really more of a safety/corner focused defense. But they should just go for a smash mouth D instead and overpower guys. That's when they've actually had success, because they don't have the speed that teams like the Colts have, so big plays happen on them all the time.
all I want to see returning next year are Jonathon Joseph (not looking so great now that he has a starting job, but it's because of all the shit he has to do to make up for the laughably bad front 7), Leon Hall, Robert Geathers, John Thornton, Domata Peko, Ahmad Brooks and Landon Johnson.
I know none of those names mean shit to fans of teams with real defenses, or even average defenses, but those guys are the only ones who seem to play hard out of the starters (brooks is hurt though) and that's 3 dline players, 2 LBs and the 2 corners of the future for this team (unless Hall is a bust, but he's shown some greatness when he isn't making rookie mistakes). Well, ok, Justin Smith also plays hard, but he's going to get a big contract from someone else and tally up a 15 sack season next year. I just hope they can draft Dorsey, Woodyard (or anyone better at LB, but I don't really keep up on college ball) or if both of those guys are gone or they have the like #3 overall pick, McFadden just so they could grind it out. I hope they find someone willing to take on Chris Henry for a decent draft pick, especially if that pick could get them a real quality sleeper pick at LB.
I really hate the bengals' schemes on defense, but it's supposed to be built a lot like the colts' D. It's meant to be something where you have speedy guys who can stop plays and cover different stuff, so I guess it's really more of a safety/corner focused defense. But they should just go for a smash mouth D instead and overpower guys. That's when they've actually had success, because they don't have the speed that teams like the Colts have, so big plays happen on them all the time.
Spectral Glider said:
I don't qualify as a hater (I like Ben! I'm not a huge fan, but I like him), but is Kordell Stewart a valid comparison for any starting QB?
Still, as I said, i think Ben is starting to show that he is more than a caretaker, but with 550 or so attempts in his first two years combined, it's not like he was called on to win every game with his arm. That doesn't mean it's accurate to call him a caretaker, but I can see where it comes from. "Caretaker" is one of the common knocks on Rivers, too, and he's about halfway to 10,000 in less than half as many starts.
(Manning is slightly behind Ben right now, but maybe that's the coach's fault, right Wellie?)
When the Bengals won 12 games I remember Lewis gambling the entire game with the defense knowing the offense would bail him out if and when they gave up the big play. They gave up a lot of big plays that way, but they also had a lot of turnovers as well which let their offense get back on the field.firex said:
Not sure if that is a good long term strategy, but it seems like a better plan then whatever they are trying to do these days.
Wellington
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Ask anyone that watched the Giants with Hufnagel as OC.SickBoy said:
topsyturvy
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funny thing is, nor the nfc.bionic77 said:
pollo said:
who ran their mouths? nobody started rumors or something about the pats...they were caught.
im sorry but this is BS. this a established sportsmanship unwritten rule in pretty much all sports. you dont have to take knees or just stop playing but going for it on 4rth down when you up by that much?
of course he has the right to do so and the redskins (or whoever they are playing) should have the pride to put up more of a effort but this is not about what the redskins didnt do or couldnt do. obviously they couldn't stop the pats but what does that have to do with the argument? its about running up the score for no reason. i guess sending a message but if say tom brady gets hit (which i doubt since no one touches him) then pats fans shouldnt cry cheap shot or anything.
i mean i have no incentive to care cause im a eagles fan and it was fun seeing the redskins being embarrassed like that but there is a obvious institution when it comes to this. but whatever belichek is known for his attitude and lack of class. he only gets away with it because he is the best coach in the league.
topsyturvy
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he stated wild card bid. cowboys,giants,lions and greenbay is neck and neck in their respectful divison and i'm pretty sure that none will turn into a 8-8 team. furthermore, I'm pretty sure 2 of those teams will become the wildcard playoff contenders.
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romo just extended: 6 years 67 mil
topsyturvy said:
okay, despite Detroit coming out the gate and suprising a lot of teams I doubt they'll be able to sustain that to a 12 win season. Sooner or later people are gonna start gashing that defense again and they'll be right in the middle of the pack with the rest of the NFC North. Greenbay is the most overrated team in the NFL. The Giants and the Cowboys are in the NFC East, they should both easily get to 10 wins. No one in the NFC South is going to sniff 10 games. 9-7 will win that division.
effzee said:
Half joking. But if you run it on 4th and 4 or more than you're trying to give the ball away basically... its not his fault that the Redskins couldn't tackle to save their dignity.
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hiryu said:
id like to trade for derek anderson plz
topsyturvy
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dude relax :lolDY_nasty said:
again, its the wildcard bid. i'm not even adding the shitty south or west divisional playoff bid. its pure wildcard. If the cowboys takes the nfc east, the giants will automatically become the wildcard team. I'm not saying they will be close throughout the season but they are very clear to be leading the nfc. Also, i don't think the packers are overrated, their defense is pretty good. Oh, the lions schedule is easy, take that as you will, but they do look like a sleeper team either way.
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Romo just better not fudge anymore field goal snaps :lol
But wow, Dallas banking monies on Romo. He took them to the Playoffs, he will again.
But wow, Dallas banking monies on Romo. He took them to the Playoffs, he will again.
I think it's safe to say that the Giants will continue their win streak into the second half of the season. The Giants have never slowed down in previous seasons, why would they start now? 6-2 is essentially 12-4!
And the Lions defense is stout. Look what they did to Future Hall of Famer Brian Griese in their two meetings this year.
And the Lions defense is stout. Look what they did to Future Hall of Famer Brian Griese in their two meetings this year.
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why do you rub it in so?Gigglepoo said:
shitty bears, worst coaching in the nfl, and officially the worst defense in the nfl. What a joke. :lol
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bears better make some fucking coaching changes or the season is almost as done as the fraudy niners.
topsyturvy said:why do you rub it in so?
shitty bears, worst coaching in the nfl, and officially the worst defense in the nfl. What a joke. :lol
How did the worst defense in the NFL hold the Lions to 17 points? The Bears turned it over 4 times and didn't force a single TO. If their D was so bad, shouldn't they have been run off the field by this Lions team?
topsyturvy said:
Lovie Smith took the Bears to the Super Bowl last year and got a contract extension in the off season. I know you're not talking about him.
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SickBoy said:
He is whenever somebody wants to start talking about "caretakers." People who don't follow Pittsburgh football all that closely have no real idea what a caretaker is. I watched caretaking for a long time as a steeler fan, and Ben is no caretaker. That's why I used the comparison. I wasn't calling you a hater, you were talking about Ben and I wanted to interject a point and the fact that he did pass 10,000 yards yesterday. Yeah, maybe they aren't Marino or Favre numbers. But for a guy who's been labeled by the media, they're great.
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everything about the bears defense yesterday was horrible, missed tackles and costly defensive penalties cost them. last year bears wouldn't even allow the lions to even have such ball possession. For the offense, they played poor as hell and i can't believed that my griese tied his career high int since the dolphins.Gigglepoo said:
the offense alone lead me to your next question
bob babich and ron turner. The fact that lovie smith not even seeing this makes him part of the problem too to be totally honest. For bob babich sake, the defense has lost its credibility to be a defensive threat and it shows. Between Adrian peterson absolutely raping the defense and the lions completely stalling and holding onto the ball, the defense had become a complete joke. last time i check their 30th in the league for overall defense.Gigglepoo said:
the bears have lost their identity and needs to make a complete 360 by retooling everything on defense and offense such as benching the shit out of adam archucrappa and cedric benson. make switches on their o-line because their old shits and it showed yesterday. protect my griese bitches, if he would of got hurt like i thought he did yesterday i would've been pissed. I rather have him throw 4 int then get hurt. Sadly my wish came true. Seriously tho, if they don't change bob babich, Atleast grab a motherfucking offensive coordinator, i swear to god he is just fucking bad. he's fucking loli bad. :lol
The NFL allowed someone to render a Patriot an invalid paraplegic before. Past evidence discounts the claims of your joke heel persona.Kintaro said:
This is what you do.dskillzhtown said:
When fans of equally shitty teams get all rosy about their team, and maybe even a little cocksure (e.g. "People can say we stink but 2 and 0 is still 2 and 0!!!!"*) you start fantasizing about how beautiful it will be when reality sucker-punches them in the face and they come falling back to reality for the count and maybe even start doubting their allegiances after the smelling salts are put under their nose.
You are always able to hate because it doesn't fade with success or failure like love does.
*You actually said something to this effect this season if you don't remember.
I know it's already been mentioned, but Romo and the Cowboys are a long-term deal now. That's a lot of money to be given to him, but he really paid his dues sitting on the bench for three seasons and last year's ending. The Cowboys finally have a long-term quarterback solution.
What do you make of it, Woodchuck?
What do you make of it, Woodchuck?
The Bears offense is in much worse shape than their defense. Who would you even keep on offense? Garza and Olen Krutz maybe? Greg Olson for sure. Benson isn't good at all but Peterson can stay as a 3rd down back. Other than that, everyone else needs to go. As bad as their defense played yesterday, they still held the Lions to 17 points. The Bears should be able to match that tally at home.
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haha, Pats thread from last year complaining about the Colts running up the score on the Redskins, classic http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=43949
What I gather is the Redskins must suck.
What I gather is the Redskins must suck.
topsyturvy
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nevermind
Wellington
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Gigglepoo said:
How those Niners doing for you?
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So, how many times is Tony K going to mention Brady tonight?
Wellington said:
Awful... I'm sick of losing!
That wasn't a jab at the Gaints. Just pointing out that things aren't always as they appear in the present in the NFL. It's why I get annoyed at people annointing the Patriots after 8 games. Wait until the season plays out before crowning.
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Kornheiser on tonights matchup "Tom Brady is amazing!"Spectral Glider said:
SOMEONE GONNA GET BLOWED OUT
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