MayauMiao
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There are good people on Twitter?
HoodWinked
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Lisa Bloom on working for Weinstein: ‘Attorneys represent a lot of distasteful people’
Before representing five of Jeffrey Epstein’s victims, the lawyer advised the producer on how to discredit his accusers. Does she have any regrets?
www.theguardian.com
Lisa bloom like her mother are just sleazy clout chasers that will insert themselves into the news cycle wherever they can. Supposed women's advocates defending Harvey Weinstein of all people.
all the WARN act does is add 60 days of severance, but also Musk had been saying he intended to cut staff months and leading to the purchase and was even more specific in the last month. Compared to others he's given far more advanced warning than any other fortune 500 company.
Kokoloko85
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They are in a delusional world, where they think they are heroes against the big bad world.
TBH so are the otherside where they think guys like Trump and Elon Must are good guys that knights in battle….
Which is what he did yet they still sued.
LegendOfKage
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I looked at the guy's tweets that was talking about getting locked out of his e-mail. Constant criticizing the new owner of his company and the direction of the company, along with promoting at least one competing platform. And it's been going on for a long while. It seems to me that might not be a layoff, and it could instead be grounds for dismissal. If your friend hasn't been doing that, hopefully he'll be okay.
There's some real truth to this. Honestly, it's a mutually beneficial relationship. I think it would make more sense to charge brands than it does celebrities, even though both groups can afford it. I agree he should be careful here.
I have to think that verification will still include actual verification. I would hope that MrBeast won't have to worry about a verified "Mr.Beast" or "Mr_Beast," for example. I would imagine you're still going to have to prove that you are who you are claiming to be. If not, it'll be interesting to see how long it takes for that to change. I have to think it'll be something that will be considered ahead of time.
Apparently it doesn't.
LegendOfKage
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When everyone is special no one will be.
Seriously though, if that's true, I can see that being a potentially large mistake. Where does the apparently come from? Has Musk said as much or somehow hinted at it?
One of the reports says it'll have no ID verification. Everyone who pays $8 gets the badge.
LegendOfKage
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I think I might have found the answer:
So you pay for the "status" of a blue checkmark, but it no longer will be the verification.
HoodWinked
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StreetsofBeige
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This is a real memo?It was always the case.
So fired people get 3 months lead time with full pay and benefits and Twitter employees are complaining? Talk about easy peasy termination. Got to be among the gentlest firings ever.
Not too many companies out there that does this. At my company, every person that has been fired for cause or getting rid of old fogies (the 30 year club) get zero notice. They walk into the office one day, get told it's their last day, got maybe 15 minutes to grab crap from their office and out the door they go.
They sued over it.
StreetsofBeige
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That's Twitter babies for ya.
"8 hours. Two days in a row. WaaaaaaaaaH"
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Lisa Bloom on working for Weinstein: ‘Attorneys represent a lot of distasteful people’
Before representing five of Jeffrey Epstein’s victims, the lawyer advised the producer on how to discredit his accusers. Does she have any regrets?
Lisa bloom like her mother are just sleazy clout chasers that will insert themselves into the news cycle wherever they can. Supposed women's advocates defending Harvey Weinstein of all people.
all the WARN act does is add 60 days of severance, but also Musk had been saying he intended to cut staff months and leading to the purchase and was even more specific in the last month. Compared to others he's given far more advanced warning than any other fortune 500 company.
I mean, yea, she's a lawyer soliciting clients on Twitter. Not exactly the height of integrity there. But she ain't wrong.
As far as notices of impending layoffs go, it needs to be formal and come from the company - not the musings of the guy who was at the time in the process of trying to wiggle out of purchasing them. I don't imagine a court taking his tweets or whatever from a month ago as being a credible notice of a layoff.
The WARN act also has provisions for penalties and such, including monthly incurring penalties, but I'm sure that doesn't bother Musk. He makes more in a day than those fees will cost him. But at least the laid off employees would be compensated.
Edit: oh yea, I saw the update. That's great news, those laid off will be compensated fairly. Imagine having a nice job and then being laid off for no reason with no severance. At least this way they can breathe and go find a new job.
Edit 2: I see Twitter is being sued anyways. Whelp. I can't say I agree with that, but lawyers are gonna lawyer
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StreetsofBeige
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Whether or not Twitter has violated firing laws or not, I dont know and am too lazy to read the info. But if Twitter is wrong, I dont think Musk cares. Paying a penalty to get rid of employees asap is always worth doing if there's risk keeping employees around will screw things up or sabotage the company. And given how Twitter and tech employees seem really loud and volatile, I wouldnt trust them either.
Just about every person I've known let go gets fired on the spot.
However, I've been let go too. But similar to Twitter I got about 3 months notice too. They trusted me to stick around and offered a bonus payout if I stayed the whole time to transition things as our company consolidated divisions and let ago a bunch of us who they considered redundant. Most people got fired on the spot, but some of us like me were asked to stay if we could. I got a modest severance no matter what + an extra $3000 to stay. Worth doing as it was early in my career.
I found it great. I got a payout, bonus payout and the bosses were super chill and said if I ever needed to leave the office to do a job interview, just go no questions asked.
These Twitter nitwits should be counting their lucky ass stars they got offered a decent offer and get to stay home. For me, I got a similar 3 months, but the key difference is I still had to go to the office working for it. I found a job a month later and no hard feelings. I even used an old boss for a reference for future jobs and he was A-ok with doing it.
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StreetsofBeige
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Leave it to tech companies and video game employees, and guys like Musk to bring the laughs on social media to the rest of us. At least Musk knows it well and trolls for fun.
You're not going to see mass pandemonium from employees or CEO funnies from your typical bank, oil and gas company, utility company, consumer goods company or even something more fun and entertaining like funnies coming from sporty companies like Nike or Adidas.
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StueyDuck
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I just love how out of touch everyone seems to be, yet these are people that are meant to be the voice of the people with millions of followers and so on , I literally saw a blue tick messing their pants and scolding some old star trek discovery episode because it mentioned musk's name... Like he was some sort of Dictator or historic villain.
gosh it's brilliant fun, i am loving it, i wish i could be a fly on the wall and see their real life pathetic baby outrage, they probably mash their keyboards and tear up bits of paper to show how mad they are.
EDIT: also it's just so fucking brilliant that the first blue tick to cry and BM all over the floor was a REEEEEEE gamer loser Nibel, like of course it was
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StreetsofBeige
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I dont have a Twitter account. So reading tweets comes from embedded tweets or a googl search that takes me right to the tweet.
But now Musk opened it up for all. I can search Twitter for whatever I want and read the posts. I still wont make a profile and post since I dont care about tweeting, but good to see Musk make it open.
I still dont get the blue checkmark issue. Is it the $8/month (people broke not wanting to pay)? The fact anyone can now do it instead of people with a lot of followers (jealous anyone can do it)? Both? Something else? I havent got into reading the blue mark debacle other than Musk tweeting the other day about $8.
It started out to verify identity but it evolved into a status symbol. It was also hard to get.
I know of one film blogger who keeps getting denied (because he made a living out of inciting political harassment and his account wasn't in good standing for verification) who was always crying to Twitter about being declined (again because he harassed people and was reported for it). So he'll be paying $8 right away for his check mark.
StueyDuck
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there isn't really an issue that's the thing, it's just online ego maniacs who expect everything for free, most these idiots pay twitter already to get their messages boosted and to get bots to get them numbers needed for that blue tick.
there are some blue ticks that you are like... how even?
people acting like these things didn't all already come from having a lot of money are a bit deluded it seems.
like the Actor Rahul Kohli , i like his work but why is he being a little bitch about this, he can afford $8 a month i promise (and i can promise he will still have that tick next year and so on)
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StreetsofBeige
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I had to check his twitter account to see who he is. He's got 517,000 followers. So with all that fame, somehow $96/yr is a big deal. Wow.
I can understand someone feeling entitled to free Twitter who's broke. But when a celeb is whining about $100/yr when all these Twitter people are trying to boost their career and recognition with a free profile, but hey man. It comes a time you got to pay up. Not many things are free in life. But lucky for tech nerds and people trying to make a career out of YT or Twitter, it seems just about all social media accounts are free to use.
BootsLoader
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Wtf, who is this? Why should we care? Anyway, good bye!
StreetsofBeige
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This is amazing because when I read tweets, I only care about blue marks if its a major celeb. Just to make sure it's not a fake account. And I'm talking about AAA Hollywood stars and pro athletes.
Who the fuck cares about all the underlings getting a blue mark using it as a status symbol. Some video game employees have it as if a graphic designer really needs a blue mark so the general public can determine if pink haired programmer Suzy is verified or not the real person.
Amazing.
BadBurger
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They are, they're violating the law to the letter in fact. But, given that they're seemingly providing everyone being laid off two to three months severance (I haven't seen any reports to the contrary yet) I figure they're acting in as good of faith as they can and should be given a pass.
But as I noted in my edit above, lawyers are gonna do what they do. They opened themselves up to the lawsuit they're facing now.
Northeastmonk
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Dang. I read his Tweets a lot last gen and always assumed his posts would always be mentioned by the community. So many people you always assume will be there the next time you look them up.
BouncyFrag
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small_law
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I don't think anything is going to stop that.
These people leaving Twitter, all of them realize that the person that cares the least is Elon, right? He cares about onboarding 100 million new users, not keeping 500,000 overly sensitive freak shows around. They're making him happy by leaving. They're the ones that ruined the platform.
LegendOfKage
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I don't even see how that can be true, considering they're all still technically employed until early February. Twitter has to give 60 days notice before any major layoffs. It sounds like they gave 90 days notice, along with pay.
Either way, it seems like the next big controversy will be a war of "twitter is firing people, so contact their advertisers and tell them not to support twitter!" vs "If advertisers keep taking money away from twitter, we'll have to fire more people." For the people still working there who do want to keep their job, that's a really awful situation to be in.
AyyyLmao420
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he was basically the neogaf tweet bot for era so.....yeah lol
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
The wording of the act is very clear: prior to mass layoffs, given the relevant criteria, a company must provide a formal warning 60 days before those layoffs occur. However, these layoffs are happening now. Not 60 days from now.
I'll reiterate from earlier that I think it's good Musk/Twitter is giving them a hefty severance package, and I think that should be a reason for the laid off employees not to sue, but Twitter is violating the act so they opened themselves up to it.
Trazyn the Infinite
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Are you referring to this?
It was always the case.
If so, it literally says they are still employed until that date. More than the required 60 days. No law is being broken.
ZoukGalaxy
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Oh shit, I didn't know he died this summer, damn it, I loved him so much in Doctor Who, season 4 was really the top.RIP Bernard Cribbins.
Rest in peace buddy.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
They're literally laid off. They are no longer actually working for the company. They can't even logon to their laptops or any work accounts. Twitter can do all of the legalese contortions they want, but they have effectively laid off a number of people that fits the criteria without issuing a notice 60 days in advance.
But whatever, we'll see. If the suit is thrown out by a court then you're right. But I very seriously doubt that will be the case.
Trazyn the Infinite
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They still legally work at Twitter and are being paid their full wages until February 2023. They just can work on their own projects in their own time in their own space, away from the HQ/offices. There are some companies that do this, Valve being one IIRC. Unless that changed in more recent years. Some Universities have professors go on sabbaticals where they continue to get paid, but are no longer at the institution physically, don't teach, and don't do research. This is fully legal to do from any perspective.
This will absolutely be thrown out.
AyyyLmao420
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Lately Ive been really pondering the simulation theory and I question if our creator has programmed this world to be some sort of Hellish nightmare
AyyyLmao420
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probably because he's more of a twitter guy and the news he posts about usually comes from here, era, or reddit
LegendOfKage
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Called it (sort of), but the video content element could still happen as well:
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Ocean Dweller
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who?
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
And more big news after a few days: advertisers are abandoning the platform after Musk fired 75% (allegedly) of the moderation team, and then began blocking advertisers who responded to his questions:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/04/technology/twitter-advertisers.html (you can try 12 Foot Ladder, https://12ft.io, if you get hit with the paywall - sometimes it works)
The Heavens are far from falling, but it feels like the canary is slowly stopping to sing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/04/technology/twitter-advertisers.html (you can try 12 Foot Ladder, https://12ft.io, if you get hit with the paywall - sometimes it works)
The Heavens are far from falling, but it feels like the canary is slowly stopping to sing.
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Trazyn the Infinite
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Good. Fuck them. Maybe we can get Twitter to be a place where people can chat again instead of a hotbed of cancel culture because advertisers are fucking retarded.
If that doesn't happen, then he can just kill Twitter. The world is better off either way.
If that doesn't happen, then he can just kill Twitter. The world is better off either way.
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HoodWinked
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you're weird.
people that preference with what they're actually going to say with "great chat..." are those exact insufferable type who have spent way too much time wasting away in business meetings. BRAND SAFETY/SUITABILITY
everything about this guy sucks ass, his profile pic with the sunglasses really?
same energy:
also all this pearl clutching with "bad words" is wildly disingenuous. Yes, people are going to go nuts after being censored for so long, then things return to baseline. Most of it has already died down and been dealt with and on top of that most of this activity was among 0 follower accounts yelling into the ether no one was seeing it unless they were directly replying or directly searching for it, and even then they'd get down ranked quickly. People literally went out of their way to seek out the bad words far more than what was in reality (blue line).
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BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Why do you fanboys always personally attack those who are merely making observations about Musk?
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