schwabdizzle
Banned
I am saying we don't know the hard facts. Maybe he was provoked to send those pictures. Maybe the women are lying or trying to get revenge on this person. There are litterlly no facts besides hearsay.
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Nick Robinson (Polygon) involved in sexual harassment allegations [Suspended]
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Shang
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Then scrub personal info from the logs, post them anonymously. This seems to be pretty credible so far, but I need to see the severity of it, some hard proof, before I'm ready to blacklist this guy who has, until this point, had a pretty clean track record.
Some dude was going around telling people the sky is blue, when in fact the sky is blue.
I don't know the hard facts but maybe you're full of shit.
Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor
arturo2666
Banned
Man those evil women amirite. I feel like I'm on the MGTOW subreddit with some of these fucking posts.
schwabdizzle
Banned
Hows that? None of us or I should say maybe 99% of us have not seen actual DMs from this dude. He could have really done it, but until anyone sees the actual posts or DMs to make a educated judgment they should just chill on it. I am not defending the dude, but I don't know all the facts and I will keep judgment until the facts are there or just continue to dogpile on me instead of getting what I am actually saying.
I am done with this post. I will go post about video games on this video game forum instead of gasp about some dumb shit.
Yes. It's a conspiracy. These scheming women and their SJW white knight buddies got together and decided yesterday was the day to strike! And it's all so plausible too as every story reinforced the previous story.
Those clever girls!
Was going to basically post this after reading through much of this thread. Concentrate on the actual issue of Nick being a shit bag instead of dragging anyone who doesn't go far enough in calling Nick out through the dirt.
ScientificPizza
Banned
shut up man
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Literally look at what you just typed....
You really want to victimize yourself.....who's "triggered" here?
It's cute that the snowflake can't take a thread existing that he could just ignore.
SlipperyFishes
Banned
Pretty sure the juniors complaining of white males being hunted like animals are coming from the KiA thread screaming the same.
Ah, I see.
"Hearsay" is going to be the buzzword that let's people retreat from reading between the lines.
Greetings fellow gamer. Did you know there are many game threads on NeoGAF that you can peruse at your leisure instead of thread whining? Just look for the helpful "OT" in the subject line. If this too hard for you maybe you can make more laughable posts about the victimization of white males and see what happens. Have a great day!
edit: oh, something did happen lol
KiA or Voat. This shit always happens.
Wait KiA is defending this guy? Hilarious since I would assume they'd hate this guy for being with Polygon.
those dumb motherfuckers will take literally any possible excuse to shitpost and harass women, any at all.
AuthenticM
Member
don't come back
And when they get banned they make a thread in KiA about how they were "banned for telling the truth".
TheMrPliskin
Member
We are. Evidence in this situation is complex, not only because it might be hard to come across, not only because it might be dismissed, but also because in these sorts of situations putting forward evidence comes at the cost of your identity which is something a victim is probably not looking to disclose.
And like you say, in this particular instance it's a moot point. We have more than enough claims from enough different people that it's not hard to see that there's truth to this story.
Gaters are willing to work with the enemy if it means defending white males accused of sexual harassment.
ScientificPizza
Banned
No one is saying that you need to blacklist him or you're complicit, but why do you need to see the severity? Is there a level of sexual harrassment you're comfortable with and you're waiting to see which side he falls on?
The entire call out has been couched with *everyone* saying they didn't and don't feel safe with airing this stuff because of the potential backlash. Which, considering the recent history with games personalities on the internet, is an incredibly fucking valid way to feel. If you need """Hard Proof""" for this to mean anything to you, then just move on. Or, alternatively, look at what we have:
multiple women accusing Nick of similar if not the same actions, other people corroborating those accusations and supporting the victims, and his long term close friends denouncing what he has done going so far as to entirely cancel their long running podcast
None of that stuff happens arbitrarily and Nick Robinson is not the person who deserves the benefit of the doubt in this situation
omgwtfbentime
Member
Why is it so much easier to believe women putting their careers at jeopardy by speaking out are lying than a clearly entitled dude was being shitty and gross?
Fair enough, yea.
TheFurizzlyBear
Member
I don't know if it was ever answered but according to his twitter from a few days ago he was going to the Polygon retreat today. Whether or not he went is a whole other thing
shawnoftheshred
Member
Not necessarily. While there are a lot of cases where people look back regretting that they downplayed warning signs or dismissed warning comments as not a big deal, there are a lot of cases where people are legitimately blindsided too. There's a lot of layers to how and to whom women choose to share information regarding people who have harassed them. It's not usually as simple as "if it was widely known among this group, that group probably knew too."
Lot of serial abusers/harassers/creeps, sure, don't realize what they are doing is wrong, and are more likely to have their actions witnessed by someone close to them or who is willing to approach someone close to them, but many also realize that what they are doing is wrong and choose to do so secretly.
NorthernSpade
Neo Member
What? Aw man, that blows. Didn't follow him too much but from what I saw of him I always thought he was a swell guy.
I'm pretty sure they're just happy that one of their perceived enemies is being dragged and confirming that Nick is a hypocrite. They delighted in Devin Faraci being outed as an unequivocal piece of shit.
cr0w
Old Member
You didn't know what was going on, so why feel bad? You weren't complicit. No need to retroactively guilt yourself.
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Reddit's KotakuInAction subreddit, aka Gamergate HQ.
BUNTING1243
Banned
kotaku in action
it was one of the main subreddits for gamergate that's basically just a anti-sjw pro-trump celibate nightmare factory nowadays
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
No, people's personal lives don't exist for my entertainment.
I understand that, but I'm not about to give the gaming industry the benefit of the doubt, Polygon is still being run by privileged white men.
Interficium
Banned
It'll be interesting to see what Nick's response is. If screencaps drop (and they very well might within the next couple of days) I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a Faraci.
Never been a fan of Nick, enjoyed Touch The Skyrim series more for Griffin than anything but disappointed nonetheless if true.
Damn shame theres an army of jerks out there always eager to pounce on and attempt to defame women who come forward in instances like this. Makes my heart sink to see people tweet how they're afraid and relieved that someone finally said something.
Damn shame theres an army of jerks out there always eager to pounce on and attempt to defame women who come forward in instances like this. Makes my heart sink to see people tweet how they're afraid and relieved that someone finally said something.
shawnoftheshred
Member
Oh totally. One would hope that this was indeed surprising to them and one would also hope that it forces them to take a real close look to see if there's anything they could have done to make it more accessible for people to feel comfortable coming forward. I think that what you have written here is an obvious first thing to look at.
Any curiosity you may have is irrelevant. This isn't a TV drama, this is real life. These women have a lot to risk by coming forward - professionally, socially, emotionally - even if they attempted to do so in an anonymous manner.
I saw the discourse happening on Twitter the other day but didn't know what it was about, I was wondering what was going on =/
This is awful
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This is awful
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Spirit of Jazz
Banned
There are many cases where people don't have hard proof and still get accused as guilty. When nobody's defending Nick including his friends it's pretty obvious what happens. Further still we have no idea of the specifics of the harassment which is for the betterment of the victims, the people involved obviously know more about it than we do and there's no reason to make things public.
LegitMcfalls
Member
That sounds like literally hell...
What's the point. People will interpret it to fit their own view. It's easy to discredit basically anything if you want to. The only thing that would come of sharing anything like that is a person with a crosshair on their back, even if they're just relaying a screenshot.
I'm going to wait on Vox Media, who has pledged to fight sexual harassment online, who surely will look at this because of their obligation as a company and their public stance on this topic.
But dick pics would really add some levity and help me forget that he was making people feel very bad at their place of work.
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