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Nicki Minaj the best female rapper ever?

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She sucks but most most rappers these days are god awful (Lil Wayne and Drake). So while she sucks, she's about on par with what passes for mainstream rap these days, i.e. shit.

It isn't like I'm some guy who thinks only underground is good, I'm just some guy who has seen the shocking drop in quality of mainstream rap in the past decade.
 
dcdobson said:
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spindashing said:
On the real though...

Can someone point me to a credible white female MC?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQxKzmi2fHg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eQL3BrRqM8
 
This is the same community that acts like the Uncharted games are comparable to the second coming of Christ. I'm not the least bit surprised that some of you actually like this no talent hack.

Some of you are just on some other shit.
 
genjiZERO said:
her rapping on Kanye's album was really good, but her personal album was mostly average if not terrible. Why for example was she talking about shitting on people?

She stole that from Wayne. (No seriously, dude has some obsession with fecal matter.)
 
The Experiment said:
She sucks but most most rappers these days are god awful (Lil Wayne and Drake). So while she sucks, she's about on par with what passes for mainstream rap these days, i.e. shit.

It isn't like I'm some guy who thinks only underground is good, I'm just some guy who has seen the shocking drop in quality of mainstream rap in the past decade.


How can there have been a drop in the last decade? If anything the quality of mainstream stuff is rising because of people like Drake etc. Compare him to Chingy and some of the nursery rhyme shit that was popular five years ago.


spindashing said:
I know right? She is such a joy to listen to! I'm bursting with excitement everytime I hear Roman's Revenge. She is the epitome of female rap.

I’m startin’ to feel like a dungeon dragon
Raah, raah, like a dungeon dragon
I’m startin’ to feel like a dungeon dragon

Her lyrics are the best things known to man. The fact that she needed to clarify herself with sound effects on the next line and then repeat herself after that is très magnifique...
:D


That was a reference to Busta Rhymes, man.
 
karasu said:
That was a reference to Busta Rhymes, man.

Come on son, you don't think I know that? :lol The way she used it is like

"Hi, I'm a dungeon dragon."

"Did you know that I go RAOW RAOW?"

"I just want to remind you that I am a dungeon dragon."

I don't know it may just be me but she could have done the reference and gotten it over with in one line.

Edit: ayo this white girl rapping stuff is freaking me out. They're real good. If you guys have more, please feel free to share. :lol :lol
 
ok, those female mcs posted on this page are way better than minaj, the only thing that they dont have is the mainstream appeal that she does
 
Hehe, not bad for a late-night post. Is see Nicki gets a strong reaction from some, but it's all good. I'm greatful for the Grae and Dessa links. Who knows? I might find I dislike Nicki's album after I hear the full thing. PEACE.
 
People need to stop saying the rap game is dead. There are so many quality songs out there...you are not looking hard enough. If you don't like Drake or Wayne that's fine, it's what a lot of people like, but the quality of good music out there is crazy.
 
DangerousMali said:
It's crazy i have to deny what i didn't post, you guys are reading way too much into my previous post.
Uhhh... but you did post it and Spindashing called you on your bs. You didn't mention MC Lyte's name specifically but you made the generalization that everyone was comparing Nicki to underground, unknown, female rappers. Just skimming the thread the majority of the names dropped are something like Missy, Da Brat, Lauren Hill, etc. Basically you're calling the most well known female emcees unknown, mixtape, one-offs, but at the same time you praise those same rappers that near everyone in the thread is mentioning. Seems like you are taking one or two posts that may have an unknown in it and taking that as the general opinion of the thread and spindashing called you on your idiocy appropriately. Either that or you don't know who Jean Grae and Eve are in which case you should still probably stfu because you don't know what you're talking about.
 
After watching the video for Sledgehammer, I immediately went to iTunes and bought Invincible's ShapeShifters album. Thank you for the fantastic recommendation!

And, yeah, Minaj had a really strong verse on Monster, but thinking about her in terms of "best of all time" is silly.
 
Nert said:
After watching the video for Sledgehammer, I immediately went to iTunes and bought Invincible's ShapeShifters album. Thank you for the fantastic recommendation!

And, yeah, Minaj had a really strong verse on Monster, but thinking about her in terms of "best of all time" is silly.
she had significant help in writing that verse.
 
I swear, this thread is good. I do need to diversify my music with female MCs.

I never even knew white female MCs existed. Excuse my ignorance. Thanks for the links/names, guys.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
she had significant help in writing that verse.
wha???

please tell me she does'nt have ghost writters.... rappers with ghost is one thing i cannot respect.

I definitely think she has skills, more than most rappers, but her album disappointed me, half the tracks were great half were bad.
 
~Devil Trigger~ said:
wha???

please tell me she does'nt have ghost writters.... rappers with ghost is one thing i cannot respect.

I definitely think she has skills, more than most rappers, but her album disappointed me, half the tracks were great half were bad.
I think Kanye said he helped her write that verse over a 7 day period or something like that...
 
~Devil Trigger~ said:
wha???

please tell me she does'nt have ghost writters.... rappers with ghost is one thing i cannot respect.

I definitely think she has skills, more than most rappers, but her album disappointed me, half the tracks were great half were bad.

It's like nobody is listening to me, Lauryn Hill had ghostwriters too, on her own album.
 
HiResDes said:
It's like nobody is listening to me, Lauryn Hill had ghostwriters too, on her own album.

Thats cause she's a fucking fraud as far as I'm concerned.
Still better than Nicki Minaaj though
 
I'll admit, i love watching her 'pervert face'. She is highly entertaining. Best female rapper to me tho is Missy Elliot, she is just something else.
 
Korey said:
Why can't I equate the two?

MTV recently did a documentary about her: Nicki Minaj: My Time is Now She comes off as an intelligent person who is self aware and understands how the industry and pop music works. Being successful as a female pop artist is hard. She has to do that on top of being in the male dominated rap game.

Watch the whole thing here: http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/60...ive-unknown-to-vma-performer.jhtml#id=1653117

Plus, Nicki's just starting her career.
I watched this, I love her more.
 
HiResDes said:
It's like nobody is listening to me, Lauryn Hill had ghostwriters too, on her own album.

Pretty sure that goes for most musicians. At least the ones people have heard about.
 
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