From what I can tell from screenshots, the PS4 Pro version also seems to use the same 800x450 buffers for effects that the plain PS4 version uses. Despite rendering at 1080p. (It really is exactly the PC version at 1080p with MSAA off and low AF)
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Nier: Automata PC performance thread
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From what I can tell from screenshots, the PS4 Pro version also seems to use the same 800x450 buffers for effects that the plain PS4 version uses. Despite rendering at 1080p. (It really is exactly the PC version at 1080p with MSAA off and low AF)
RedlineRonin
Member
Everything has been going really well with FAR, except I'm having an issue with some "checkerboarding" (not sure how else to describe it) when light sources are involved....
https://www.flickr.com/photos/149270867@N03/32948873134/in/shares-Y014iz/lightbox/
I have GI set to high and the AO and Bloom options set to native resolution in FAR. Not sure what I'm doing wrong here....
E: and I'm playing at 1440p ds to 1080p
https://www.flickr.com/photos/149270867@N03/32948873134/in/shares-Y014iz/lightbox/
I have GI set to high and the AO and Bloom options set to native resolution in FAR. Not sure what I'm doing wrong here....
E: and I'm playing at 1440p ds to 1080p
RedlineRonin
Member
Wow. Am I wrong in thinking it looks kinda busted? Are the light shafts just extremely low resolution?
I got to my 60 FPS threshold without drops (so far). I am not sure how perfect it is since I haven't gotten to a new boss or had a fight with a lot of robots with lazer effects and explosions to factor in.
So far I had to trade a large resolution drop (3440x1440 > 1920x1080) and global illumination turned down to high from ultra for it but I got to keep anti-aliasing and textures cranked up to max, and I kept ambient occlusion and bloom on. IQ still looks great and gameplay is finally smooth.
I am still hoping a patch and driver updates in the future allow me to push the quality up without sacrificing framerate, but for now I'll play at this level and be happy
So far I had to trade a large resolution drop (3440x1440 > 1920x1080) and global illumination turned down to high from ultra for it but I got to keep anti-aliasing and textures cranked up to max, and I kept ambient occlusion and bloom on. IQ still looks great and gameplay is finally smooth.
I am still hoping a patch and driver updates in the future allow me to push the quality up without sacrificing framerate, but for now I'll play at this level and be happy
Okay, I finally got time to sit down with this and try the updated FAR.
It's working well except for one problem - the game seems to start lagging after an hour or two of play, and then doesn't seem to properly shut down when I exit. It appears in task manager taking up nearly all of my RAM and using 100% of my disk. I can't shut it from task manager so I need to force a reboot.
Anyone know how to fix this? Or if it is possible to just use the GI fix without FAR because honestly that's all I need.
It's working well except for one problem - the game seems to start lagging after an hour or two of play, and then doesn't seem to properly shut down when I exit. It appears in task manager taking up nearly all of my RAM and using 100% of my disk. I can't shut it from task manager so I need to force a reboot.
Anyone know how to fix this? Or if it is possible to just use the GI fix without FAR because honestly that's all I need.
https://github.com/Kaldaien/FAR/releases
edit: And Kaldaien fixes it already.
Awful Falafel
Banned
Damn, that really sucks. I know Nier has steam cloud support though, does your save not show up when you reinstall?
Currently reinstalling it as we speak, so hopefully it's still there...
A backup if I'm boned would be nice though just in case =\
Yes.
dr_rus
Member
It should be stored in Steam Cloud, is it not?
Thanks, seems like that was the cause.
Updated earlier and played for a bit. The new version works great!
paperspace
Member
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So far it looks so.
I emailed Tech support; they replied the next day (24th March) asking for my system details. Not heard anything since (also followed up for a response on Sunday, nothing so far).
Their website says to upgrade your drivers. This does not work.
There is a HUD toggle mod over on Dead End Thrills forums but that's all I'm afraid. Sucks because it doesn't work when Reshade and FAR are active, so you can only choose two.
Funyarinpa
Member
So guys, a couple things:
1. Holy hell that Fix Automata Resolution patch works bloody WONDERS.
2. Is it just me or is shooting while in the top-down perspective incredibly inaccurate with a mouse? Any way to fix that?
1. Holy hell that Fix Automata Resolution patch works bloody WONDERS.
2. Is it just me or is shooting while in the top-down perspective incredibly inaccurate with a mouse? Any way to fix that?
welp, guess I'll be waiting on a patch or new drivers. Not juggling between old and current drivers just for one game.
Yep, same here. Annoyingly I didn't really hear about this before buying (around 5 days after release); assuming it was discussed but I'd of expected to see it reported more in the gaming media.
Also a bit let down by the lack of communication from the developers; I don't really care that much that it's an issue as long as they communicate (I know they're working on some fixes but what fixes) and my request from tech support has been ignored it seems.
Downloaded 17.4.1 Drivers (AMD, RX470 here).
White screen issue STILL present. 16.11.5 still the last known "good" driver.
And by good, I mean "my pc hard crashed when I was playing it and a Steam popul interrupted me", but hey....Nier Automata, see you in a month or two when this is fixed. I am tired of this. 16.11.5 is CRAP for video players, it randomly loses screen for a second, so please.
I *really* hope Platinum fixes this, or that they even care at this point.
White screen issue STILL present. 16.11.5 still the last known "good" driver.
And by good, I mean "my pc hard crashed when I was playing it and a Steam popul interrupted me", but hey....Nier Automata, see you in a month or two when this is fixed. I am tired of this. 16.11.5 is CRAP for video players, it randomly loses screen for a second, so please.
I *really* hope Platinum fixes this, or that they even care at this point.
I heard about it at launch but kind of hoped it would've been resolved, at the very least via mods.
still? I felt hope for a second when I saw new drivers just now >.>
Man, I hope there's something soon. I wanna play this game.
DarkChronic
Member
I'm getting a white screen crash every few hours with my 970. Really driving me crazy. I hate losing progress every few hours because of this.
Should have just bought the PS4 version.
Should have just bought the PS4 version.
StormBrute
Member
Tried out the test branch with native bloom and AO on, but it looked pretty messed up and was having the flickering button/key prompts, so I switched back to the main branch.
The lighting just became super dramatic when both bloom and AO were set to native, like the dark parts became incredibly dark and the light parts incredibly bright. I could barely see inside the (late Route A location)
but was immediately blinded by light when I walked outside of it. The rays of light were also jarringly jagged, seemingly more so than before, but it may have been that they just stood out more in the new lighting.
I think I'm happy with it my settings as of now (2xMSAA, Medium GI, Native Bloom), but I am curious if that is something that typically happens or if there was some problem causing it.
The lighting just became super dramatic when both bloom and AO were set to native, like the dark parts became incredibly dark and the light parts incredibly bright. I could barely see inside the (late Route A location)
Forest Castle
I think I'm happy with it my settings as of now (2xMSAA, Medium GI, Native Bloom), but I am curious if that is something that typically happens or if there was some problem causing it.
StormBrute
Member
Setting AO to native is only available in the test branch, not in the main branch yet. You have to go to SKIM64 (the installer) and select the test branch, then click migrate to install that version.
Doesn't MSAA cause problems with the AO?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Not being fixed with the latest driver is disappointing. I guess I will end up putting this off until after Cosmic Star Heroine since that's about to come out. Maybe by then either Platinum/SE or AMD will have fixed it.
Unless FAR fixed it I recall there being problems with the LOD fade-in when using AO and AA at the same time.
KillerMan91
Member
Well fuck. Saw new AMD drivers released and thought that maybe this issue is fixed. Well back to Persona....
NeoRaider
Member
I must be really lucky with this game because i never had any crash or bigger issue with it.
It never crashed for me, i don't have problem with resolutions in fullscreen. Also performance is really good for me. 1440p, all settings on highest possible, AA off i get 40-60fps. It's around 45-60 most of the time which is pretty acceptable for me. I was expecting much worse i have to say.
Yeah i agree about LOD, it can be really bad. Also textures and light shafts are really LQ. But game can also be very beautiful and in motion i don't even notice these things too much.
It never crashed for me, i don't have problem with resolutions in fullscreen. Also performance is really good for me. 1440p, all settings on highest possible, AA off i get 40-60fps. It's around 45-60 most of the time which is pretty acceptable for me. I was expecting much worse i have to say.
Yeah i agree about LOD, it can be really bad. Also textures and light shafts are really LQ. But game can also be very beautiful and in motion i don't even notice these things too much.
Nabs
Member
You're not using the mod, right? The GI tweak could have helped get you close to a locked 60.
NeoRaider
Member
yeah the LOD is pretty bad, I'm not sure why but they are more noticeable now than before, not sure if I just notice them more because everything else are good or that they got worse at certain parts of the game
Is the LOD equivalent to the PS4 version?
Nabs
Member
Yup. There are 4 or so options, and you can adjust it while you play the game.
NeoRaider
Member
I didn't install it because i was happy with the performance. I am not sure how much will it improve my fps? Also i don't want to lower settings and make the game look even worse.
Since we are talking about LOD and IQ in general i think that this screenshot that i took shows the problems with this game very well:
Everything that is few feet away from you can look bad and LQ. Textures, shadows, AO...
Some textures can be nice, even when you get close to them. But generally i think that textures work in this game is really pure. Too much re-use of assets and it just doesn't look good aesthetically
heard it's worse than the ps4 ver, but i haven't seen a comparison
I remember reading this as well, I just thought disabling AA resolved it and brought it back to PS4 levels. (I hope.)
they said they're aware of the problems
they didn't fix shit with MGR when they said "we're listening, oh no we'll just leave it to konami", so i don't expect much from them, but hey who knows
I've been using the Fix Resolution Tool and it works wonderfully. However last night I tried the testing branch for the improved AO, and while it does seem improved, I encountered an issue I didn't have before.
Just to the screen-left of the main character is a weird bit of blurriness, almost looks like a ghost of the character model. It's much more noticeable while moving the character. It's a bit hard to describe, I am sorry I don't have an image but you need to see it in motion to better understand it I think. Is this a known issue? I am using a GTX970 if that matters. I switched back to the main branch for now.
Just to the screen-left of the main character is a weird bit of blurriness, almost looks like a ghost of the character model. It's much more noticeable while moving the character. It's a bit hard to describe, I am sorry I don't have an image but you need to see it in motion to better understand it I think. Is this a known issue? I am using a GTX970 if that matters. I switched back to the main branch for now.
Yeah, motion blur is broken with the ambient occlusion fix, version 0.5.0.5 has a test fix for this issue, but yeah, it's better to stick to the main branch, the testing branch is meant for testing new features which may sometimes cause issues.
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
It does, there's a glitch with the AA and LOD. Turning off the AA fixes it. Hopefully it's patched of course
SapphiCine
Member
I have noticed some odd lighting or motion blur artifacts(?) going on when dashing that exist independent of the mod.