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http://kotaku.com/the-sad-story-beh...m_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow

Last week, Night Dive founder Stephen Kick and director of business development Larry Kuperman emailed me to let me know that while they had indeed planned to re-release No One Lives Forever and its sequel, they'd hit a wall and been forced to give up. Thanks to the ongoing inability and/or unwillingness of three publishers—Activision, 20th Century Fox, and in particular Warner Bros.—to determine who owned the game, Night Dive is currently abandoning its efforts to revive No One Lives Forever.

rest at the link. Long, sad story.

 

[BobTheFork]

Time to mail those f'ers a goat!

 

[Fury451]

I knew there would be bad news...if the guys who got System Shock 2 can't get this, there's little hope.

I really wanted this, needed to experience how good they were. Only got to see it through videos and I definitely missed out it seems.

 

[Corpekata]

Need a "Fuck you in particular" gif edit with Warner Bros logo.

 

[pakkit]

:'( NOLF 1 and 2 are still god-tier, right up there with Half Life 2 and Wolfenstein: TNO.

 

[HK-47]

Caaaaate

 

[finley83]

Damn, they managed to get System Shock 2 out of legal limbo, this must have been a complete nightmare.

 

[JayTapp]

Release the game anyways, let their lawyers figure it out

 

[Easy_D]

"No, Night Dive, fuck you. We will not let you do all the work and set up some kind of licensing deal so we can make money by doing nothing from selling these cult classics again."

 

[Dog Problems]

I knew there would be bad news...if the guys who got System Shock 2 can't get this, there's little hope.

I really wanted this, needed to experience how good they were. Only got to see it through videos and I definitely missed out it seems.

If you want to play them bad enough then just get a hold of the discs. Apparently they work fine on modern operating systems, with some fixes.

I no longer have the games so I can't say how well it all works. Maybe someone else can comment on it.

 

[MichaelFassbender]

DAMNATION! Always wanted to get on board with a re-release. 'Twill be many a year afore we sail those shores again.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

Sounds like we've reached Level Grim Fandango rights entanglement.


Get Sony on the phone.

 

[Ermac]

So is there really no way to play this? Other than getting a disc on eBay?

 

[Jb]

Guess I made the right choice by picking up a used copy of 2 a few months ago. Still wish more people could experience these games easily.

 

[Chillz0r]

"No, Night Dive, fuck you. We will not let you do all the work and set up some kind of licensing deal so we can make money by doing nothing from selling these cult classics again."

Was thinking pretty much the same thing
So sad, i loved those games :'(

 

[HK-47]

Sounds like we've reached Level Grim Fandango rights entanglement.


Get Sony on the phone.

I dont think Grim Fandango had particularly complex rights.

 

[Sendero]

Release the game anyways, let their lawyers figure it out

That really might be the only solution left right now. Of course, you need someone brave enough to take the fall.

No one lives forever.

 

[Velurian]

A damn shame. Nolf was fun.

 

[Stone Ocean]

So is there really no way to play this? Other than getting a disc on eBay?

Legally? No.

 

[dreamfall]

WE GOTTA MAKE IT HAPPEN

 

[Fury451]

If you want to play them bad enough then just get a hold of the discs. Apparently they work fine on modern operating systems, with some fixes.

I no longer have the games so I can't say how well it all works. Maybe someone else can comment on it.

Last I checked they were crazy expensive. Maybe that's changed, I'll look again.

I've scoped out some used book stores for years- found some great gems in there, like Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines prior to it's digital rerelease, but these never showed up.

Edit: Appears there's some copies floating around at decent prices.

 

[plutoknight]

Sounds like we've reached Level Grim Fandango rights entanglement.


Get Sony on the phone.

Grim Fandango wasn't exactly a rights nightmare; Pretty sure that bore out of a relationship between Sony and Disney (formerly Lucasarts, of course).

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

Huh, Warner seemed like the only of those 3 that actually tried putting up a fight but they seemed destined to not win that battle given the way things were going. I wonder if they just realized that whatever legal bill they were going to have at the end of this wouldn't have been made up by any profits made from selling the games. sucks.

 

[Ganondorfo]

Is this series any good? I heard it was a James Bond ripoff back then. There are only 2 games from this series right? And I know its done by the FEAR developer.

 

[HK-47]

Is this series any good? I heard it was a James Bond ripoff back then. There are only 2 games from this series right? And I know its done by the FEAR developer.

NOLF is better than any Bond game ever made.

 

[ElTopo]

Hey Night Dive, there's another amazing FPS that has never been re-released with a source code and there's been an ever bigger demand from the fanbase to do so than NOLF.

It's called Blood. Get on that shit.

 

[Dragoon En Regalia]

Blood's source code and NOLF just can't get a break! Maybe Ed Boon can use his pull at Warner to get that end of the triforce nice and vulnerable.

...This just sucks. I didn't think Night Dive would have to give up entirely, given how they hinted at the news earlier this month.

 

[Corpekata]

Hey Night Dive, there's another amazing FPS that has never been re-released with a source code and there's been an ever bigger demand from the fanbase to do so than NOLF.

It's called Blood. Get on that shit.

Huh? Blood has been readily available for ages. They tend to focus on games that flat out aren't available to buy anymore.

 

[nded]

Damn it all.

 

[Denton]

Fuck IP laws sometimes.
That poster is so beautiful ;(

I want to own this on GOG dammit.

 

[HK-47]

Hey Night Dive, there's another amazing FPS that has never been re-released with a source code and there's been an ever bigger demand from the fanbase to do so than NOLF.

It's called Blood. Get on that shit.

Dont know where you have been. That shit's been on GOG for an age.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

I dont think Grim Fandango had particularly complex rights.

Grim Fandango wasn't exactly a rights nightmare; Pretty sure that bore out of a relationship between Sony and Disney (formerly Lucasarts, of course).

Call someone then pls. There's gotta be a person who can get this done

 

[Dragoon En Regalia]

Hopefully this won't need an Earthbound on VC-esque series of campaigns to settle, though I bet fans would love the melodrama.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Why do you even need the license? It's a parody of 60s spy films just create a "spiritual" successor.


Edit: my bad misread and thought this was about going forward with a new game.

 

[Corpekata]

Grim Fandango issues were simply because LucasArts didn't care.

 

[MUnited83]

Why do you even need the license? It's a parody of 60s spy films just create a "spiritual" successor.

Lack of reading much? They don't want to create a new game. They want to patch up the original releases to work on modern systems and make it available to buy.

 

[faceless007]

Hey Night Dive, there's another amazing FPS that has never been re-released with a source code and there's been an ever bigger demand from the fanbase to do so than NOLF.

It's called Blood. Get on that shit.

http://www.gog.com/game/one_unit_whole_blood

 

[JB2448]

Fuck IP laws sometimes.
That poster is so beautiful ;(

I want to own this on GOG dammit.

Yeah, this is a damn shame. Hopefully something can come of this if enough people make a ruckus about it on social media, though I'm not optimistic.

 

[Xater]

This is super sad. We could already have a multiplatform re-release of these cool games, but these companies can't be bothered to figure out the rights situation. If you don't even know what you own it should be fair game.

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

Why do you even need the license? It's a parody of 60s spy films just create a "spiritual" successor.

they want to release the original games. they did the same thing with System shock 2.

 

[Corpekata]

Why do you even need the license? It's a parody of 60s spy films just create a "spiritual" successor.

Night Dive aren't really a dev group. Their specialty is getting games with confusing rights issues onto digital platforms, not making new games.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

they want to release the original games. they did the same thing with System shock 2.

Yeah I misread. Isn't there a developer trying to get a sequel started though?

 

[Fury451]

Yeah I misread. Isn't there a developer trying to get a sequel started though?

That's a Monolith guy wanting to crowd fund a third Condemned game I believe.

 

[NumberThree]

Well fuck Warner, then.

 

[Kasper]

This sucks. I loved NOLF as a young lad and it's one of the few old FPS games I've gone back to every now and again.

 

[FACE]

 

[SigSig]

Man, this is dumb. All kinds of dumb. Super really really dumb.

 

[Semblance]

Damn, didn't expect this.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

Today is really delivering a greatest hits collection of bummers, christ.

 

[fantomena]