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[Elbrain]

I am still really excited for Ninja Gaiden 2, but Team Ninja has to figure out a way to make characters that dont look like real dolls that came to life.

Well I think it's because they are trying to give their game an anime look to them. The thing is they went to much down that path that it made the characters look like dolls. They should of followed DMC4 on their art direction they seem to have kept their anime roots but still look aweome.

 

[rollingstart]

Well I think it's because they are trying to give their game an anime look to them. The thing is they went to much down that path that it made the characters look like dolls. They should of followed DMC4 on their art direction they seem to have kept their anime roots but still look aweome.

Yeah, but the metal is totally not anime like. The metal is amazing in Ninja Gaiden 2.

 

[Pellham]

Danta

:lol

 

[Pimpbaa]

Please DONT make her or rachel a playable character on NG2, I beg of you!

You mean, please make her or racheal playable. Fuck this ninja dude in a tight outfit shit.

 

[SapientWolf]

She looks like a generic version of Trish from DMC.

 

[C- Warrior]

She looks like a generic version of Trish from DMC.

No.

The level of artistic interperation given in this thread is remarkable. She looks like a generic extension of Rachel, which ultimately makes sense since the game's artist is probably the same genius that gave us Rachel.

The other implications is odd. Especially the Dante comparisons.

How the hell does this:

look in anway similar to this:

This is one of those moments where added negative publicity towards Itagaki is unwarrented. Now he'll be bombared with questions as if he's making a political statement against Dante, when he probably just said "art designer, go design something with big boobs, I have other shit to take care of."

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

 

[rollingstart]

No.

The level of artistic interperation given in this thread is remarkable. She looks like a generic extension of Rachel, which ultimately makes sense since the game's artist is probably the same genius that gave us Rachel.

The other implications is odd. Especially the Dante comparisons.

How the hell does this:

look in anway similar to this:

This is one of those moments where added negative publicity towards Itagaki is unwarrented. Now he'll be bombared with questions as if he's making a political statement against Dante, when he probably just said "art designer, go design something with big boobs, I have other shit to take care of."

Obviously you must have played DMC3, because that young dante is the one she looks like.

 

[Vaxadrin]

I can't unsee it.

I look forward to rescuing Dante With Boobs from the fiends this summer.

 

[Elbrain]

She looks like this Dante man the one from 3.

 

[bounchfx]

the concept is great, however the model.. notsomuch

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

I am not understanding the uncanny Dante comparisons either. I mean I do see some similarities, but some people are acting like they copy and pasted Dante's look down to the red trench coat and added boobs to her.

 

[SapientWolf]

I am not understanding the uncanny Dante comparisons either. I mean I do see some similarities, but some people are acting like they copy and pasted Dante's look down to the red trench coat and added boobs to her.

Maybe she doesn't look exactly like Dante, but she does kind of look like a drag queen.

 

[a Master Ninja]

I am not understanding the uncanny Dante comparisons either. I mean I do see some similarities, but some people are acting like they copy and pasted Dante's look down to the red trench coat and added boobs to her.

Take a look at her handguns! They are Ebony and Ivory, one silver and one black gun-metal. She is undeniably a nod to/jab at Dante.

 

[Vaxadrin]

It would be a hilarious jab if Ryu fucked her in the ass for the Master Ninja secret ending.

 

[Synless]

Take a look at her handguns! They are Ebony and Ivory, one silver and one black gun-metal. She is undeniably a nod to/jab at Dante.

Most likely a jab knowing the creator and how he feel's about DMC.

 

[karasu]

Their character design still sucks pretty bad.

 

[rollingstart]

and like a Master Ninja brought up, the handguns.

 

[Insane Metal]

and like a Master Ninja brought up, the handguns.

:lol

 

[Elbrain]

Yep those pictures make that shit confirmed! She is Dante with boobs!

 

[karasu]

Those pictures are stupid. Their hair is hanging on their face, big deal.

 

[Mamesj]

Those pictures are stupid. Their hair is hanging on their face, big deal.

dante with boobs

 

[KurowaSan]

"...wat"

 

[Mamesj]

"...wat"

A new challenger approaches!!!!!!1

 

[Azure Dream]

Five pages and no one's compared her to Raiden yet?

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

and like a Master Ninja brought up, the handguns.

:lol




The hair styles and faces are similar, but I suppose I was mostly comparing the outfits.

 

[Elbrain]

:lol




The hair styles and faces are similar, but I suppose I was mostly comparing the outfits.

Well that was the reason why we were calling Sonia, Dante with boobs.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

Well that was the reason why we were calling Sonia, Dante with boobs.

Yeah, I know and at first I only saw a slight resemblance in the screenshots at first until I carefully studied her some more. Also, I didn't notice the handgun colors until now. I thought they were both black. The face wasn't the first thing I observed when I first saw her. :lol

 

[Metroidvania]

Keeping the red eyes would have helped, along with the original hairstyle.

Ah, well, Sonia does look a fair bit like Dante, but I don't plan on playing NGII for the cleavage.

 

[Kodiak]

concept art: wa wa wee wa!
model: typical team ninja mundane BS

its like itagaki likes it that way.

 

[sinnergy]

concept art: wa wa wee wa!
model: typical team ninja mundane BS

its like itagaki likes it that way.

You think? It's his game :lol

 

[Mamesj]

god, the concept art really is fucking awesome.

I felt that way about NG: DS too...the drawn characters were more pleasant to look at than the vanilla character models in the original NG.

 

[Elbrain]

god, the concept art really is fucking awesome.

I felt that way about NG: DS too...the drawn characters were more pleasant to look at than the vanilla character models in the original NG.

Why or why the concept art doesn't translate to game well? We will never know!

 

[Blimblim]

Their character design still sucks pretty bad.

 

[permutated]

MOTORBOAT PATROL ON DUTY. :lol

 

[Elbrain]

Yeah, I will give you that one but DMC4 Dante is fucking awesome cowboy boots and all.

 

[Mamesj]

Why or why the concept art doesn't translate to game well? We will never know!

They should make a cel-shaded anime style Ninja Gaiden game where they stick close to the concept art. It should be on the PS3/360 and blow everyone's mind.

 

[Elbrain]

They should make a cel-shaded anime style Ninja Gaiden game where they stick close to the concept art. It should be on the PS3/360 and blow everyone's mind.

That I am down with.

 

[Mefisutoferesu]

Yeah, I will give you that one but DMC4 Dante is fucking awesome cowboy boots and all.

No no no, that used to be Karasu's avatar, and blim just posts it to antagonize the guy.

 

[szaromir]

They should of followed DMC4 on their art direction

No. NG2 is not exactly a king of art, but it's still better than DMC4.

 

[Elbrain]

No no no, that used to be Karasu's avatar, and blim just posts it to antagonize the guy.

Oh ok. Still bad ass from DMC4

No. NG2 is not exactly a king of art, but it's still better than DMC4.

I meant that for the ingame stuff to how well it translated and how it looked.

 

[a Master Ninja]

No. NG2 is not exactly a king of art, but it's still better than DMC4.

The actual art design is pretty hit or miss in both games, but the texture work in DMC4 just plain looks better.

 

[ivysaur12]

The art.. fantastic.

The CG... not so much.

 

[C- Warrior]

Capcom didn't invent dual colored pistols. Again, just another circumstance of seeing what you want to see.

Personally though she looks a lot more like Raiden if you wanted to start making comparisons to popular games.

No. NG2 is not exactly a king of art, but it's still better than DMC4.

What.the.Fuck? Capcom consitantly does a tremendous job on the artistic aesthetics in their games. Team Ninja on the other hand...not so much. How many bondage chicks with big boobs covered in plastic do you need to see before this drills in? I thought there was one universal truth regarding these two franchises is that DMC does art a lot better than NG. People can argue about combat systems, but when it comes to art design, Capcom does it better than most other developers.

Anyway, with all the DMC fans on this board I'm absolutely shocked nobody mentioned the similarities to Lady -- bazooka weapon that looks near-exact to Kalina Ann, and the fact that Lady's voice actor from DMC3/4 is voicing Sonia.

It's okay to be like DMC Itagaki, no shame in that

 

[Elbrain]

Dude we are still stuck on the fact that it's DANTE WITH BOOBS! ^^

 

[C- Warrior]

Dude we are still stuck on the fact that it's DANTE WITH BOOBS! ^^

It's the facial rendering talent (or lack thereof) of Team Ninja that's creating the similarities, not any intent to purposefully create any similarities.

Observe:

OMG, it's Dante in Dead or Alive 4 but with blonde hair!

There is actually a mental phenomona where people tend to make visual allusions between two relatively different works due to one (relatively unimportant) similarity. In this case, the hair style and the guns supercede everything else, and all of a sudden it's Dante with boobs.

But the facial model, whether it's due to the artistic talent of Team Ninja, or done on purpose -- fits into the mold of how team ninja renders their characters. Frankly, they all look the same.

Observe # 2:

So essentially, it seems Team Ninja has a bank of 3 types of facial models they constantly choose from. Whoever renders these faces, obviously creates them where they tend to look similar, this similarity can be seen from even different franchises. However, implement a pair of pistols, and OMG! "It's Dante!"

And so thereby transitive property...

Observe # 3:

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...we come to the conclusion that Dante from Devil May Cry, Rachel and Sonia from the NG games, is all but Elaine from Dead or Alive 4. By the gods of olympus!!! Or, a more probable conclusion is that Team Ninja just can't render faces uniquely enough, or they simply don't care to. It's very much akin to Nomura's art designs, observe the 'actual faces' in his art, the bone structure is the -exact- same, maybe some facial hair here or there...

 

[FartOfWar]

There's a segment on Ninja gaiden II with me and Garnett in today's EGM Live.

 

[Elbrain]

There's a segment on Ninja gaiden II with me and Garnett in today's EGM Live.

I enjoyed that part of the podcast, it was really cool especially the statement that NG2 is post adolescent Power ranges and that one of the bosses looks like lord zed funny shit.

 

[MWS Natural]

They had to make Sonia look like the rest of the last gen assets. Team Ninja seems content on not upgraded much beyond the doa2 models.

I don't know why more people don't call them out on this..

 

[No Means Nomad]

There's a segment on Ninja gaiden II with me and Garnett in today's EGM Live.

What's with you covering console games? Not that it's a bad thing.

Extra free time right now because of the change at GFW Magazine to 10 issues a year?