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[Annoying Old Party Man]

Related to Wired's argument:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-21-3ds-estore-will-be-ready-on-day-one

 

[Kobun Heat]

Related to Wired's argument:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-21-3ds-estore-will-be-ready-on-day-one

We just saw this too. My writer who covered the event -- and who talked to Nintendo's Bill Trinen who seemed to confirm that the store wasn't coming day one -- is going to ask Nintendo of America for clarification.

 

[Emitan]

Related to Wired's argument:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-21-3ds-estore-will-be-ready-on-day-one

Called it! It probably just wasn't ready when they started flashing systems.

 

[Annoying Old Party Man]

We just saw this too. My writer who covered the event -- and who talked to Nintendo's Bill Trinen who seemed to confirm that the store wasn't coming day one -- is going to ask Nintendo of America for clarification.

That's what I call an immediate response!

It remains to be seen, it could wrong info from Eurogamer as well.

 

[Father_Brain]

Related to Wired's argument:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-21-3ds-estore-will-be-ready-on-day-one

I guess this is where I say "I told you so." But I'll wait for further confirmation.

 

[Boney]

I wonder if they're gonna implement a standard price for gameboy games. And if so, how much are they gonna ask.

 

[Kobun Heat]

So I can be really clear, this is the transcript of the relevant part of the conversation (which we'll run, probably edited for space and clarity, later today):

Wired.com: So the first thing I wanted to ask about is launch titles. What’s getting released on March 27 and what’s getting released later?

Bill Trinen: At today’s event, we’re only talking about the launch window. In terms of the day-to-day titles, we’ll probably be going into that in the next few months, closer to launch. For built-in software as well, obviously we showed the 3-D system demo with the Nintendo 3DS camera, AR Games, the Mii Maker – those are all built-in along with 3DS sound, Mii Plaza, Face Raiders…

Wired.com: And then the store is coming later?

Bill Trinen: Yeah, obviously, I mean we saw the video of the store today — we have a lot more features on this version than on Wii and Nintendo DSi. In terms of how or when it’s going to be available, that’s an announcement for another day.

Wired.com: I was really impressed with the store. Do you think it will be available before E3, within the launch window?

Bill Trinen: Today we’re really focused on the price announcement, the launch window time frame, and then in terms of specific announcements on each title in the shop, we’ll do that as we get closer to launch. We need to save some limits for later…

 

[Gravijah]

I wonder if they're gonna implement a standard price for gameboy games. And if so, how much are they gonna ask.

How much are NES games? Around that, I'd suppose. Few dollars more for color.

 

[Emitan]

Wait a second. What if they put all the Pokemon games (at least through Crystal) and you can trade with yourself. Or transfer Pokemon from the original games that couldn't make it to the GBA games.

 

[Balb]

Wait a second. What if they put all the Pokemon games (at least through Crystal) and you can trade with yourself. Or transfer Pokemon from the original games that couldn't make it to the GBA games.

I doubt they'd release any of the mainline Pokemon games (or Pokemon TCG). Even if they did, Nintendo wouldn't retool any of them. And what do you mean by that last part?

 

[Emitan]

I doubt they'd release any of the mainline Pokemon games (or Pokemon TCG). Even if they did, Nintendo wouldn't retool any of them. And what do you mean by that last part?

You couldn't trade your mons from RBY or GSC to FRLG or RSE. You'd have to recatch new ones.

 

[Deku]

I never troll, ever. I only speak with the force and conviction of my opinions. People don't like what they hear because it's usually shitting on some sacred cow of theirs or some low standard they have, claim it's trolling because it comes from a red name. Whine about it, derail topics. As is the case here, where you clearly didn't read the topic and tried to make an attempt that I go around speaking about this all the time, even though the comments Wily referenced were from like 2007 and had NOTHING to do with what was being discussed in this topic.

Sorry going back on not posting. Just one note amir0x. If you approach discussions here as everyone but you is speaking from their heart, then yes, whatever you say is right because subjectively everything is right to you, people who disagree are wrong or have some outside agenda.

If that's your starting point, then there's really no point having a discussion. The end result is known.

As for accusing me of not reading the topic, I was having a parallel discussion about something else on the thread, which was already derailed into discussions about launch line ups. If by implication your saying Im following you around, then maybe you're more upset about this running disagreement than you let on.

 

[wsippel]

We just saw this too. My writer who covered the event -- and who talked to Nintendo's Bill Trinen who seemed to confirm that the store wasn't coming day one -- is going to ask Nintendo of America for clarification.

I believe JC Rodrigo told Gamespot that the store would be there day one, but he would only confirm VC at launch, not 3DSWare.

 

[civilstrife]

Yeah, the problem people have with you, Amirox is not that you "post with conviction" or whatever.(Who doesn't?) It's that you usually are the first to start slinging personal insults, which lowers the quality of the conversation and ultimately weakens your argument.

Things along the line of: "I'm right and if you're dumb/illiterate enough not to see why I'm right, then I don't think we can even talk on the same level."

What does that serve? How does the conversation benefit from that?

 

[Router]

Do we have any footage of the store or retro games playing on the 3DS yet?

 

[Emitan]

Do we have any footage of the store or retro games playing on the 3DS yet?

There's an old vid from a few months backs showing someone buying Super Mario Land off the store. I'd find it but I have work filters.

 

[boomerisgod]

Do we have any footage of the store or retro games playing on the 3DS yet?

Youtube user "Nintendoworldreport" has some good ones of Super Mario and Links Awakening. Both taken from the New York conference.

 

[Router]

There's an old vid from a few months backs showing someone buying Super Mario Land off the store. I'd find it but I have work filters.

Oh so still just that old video then? Thanks.

 

[MinionBE]

Do we have any footage of the store or retro games playing on the 3DS yet?

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/virtual-console-the-legend/709499

 

[Father_Brain]

So I can be really clear, this is the transcript of the relevant part of the conversation (which we'll run, probably edited for space and clarity, later today):

Wired.com: So the first thing I wanted to ask about is launch titles. What’s getting released on March 27 and what’s getting released later?

Bill Trinen: At today’s event, we’re only talking about the launch window. In terms of the day-to-day titles, we’ll probably be going into that in the next few months, closer to launch. For built-in software as well, obviously we showed the 3-D system demo with the Nintendo 3DS camera, AR Games, the Mii Maker – those are all built-in along with 3DS sound, Mii Plaza, Face Raiders…

Wired.com: And then the store is coming later?

Bill Trinen: Yeah, obviously, I mean we saw the video of the store today — we have a lot more features on this version than on Wii and Nintendo DSi. In terms of how or when it’s going to be available, that’s an announcement for another day.

Wired.com: I was really impressed with the store. Do you think it will be available before E3, within the launch window?

Bill Trinen: Today we’re really focused on the price announcement, the launch window time frame, and then in terms of specific announcements on each title in the shop, we’ll do that as we get closer to launch. We need to save some limits for later…

Looking at this, I'm guessing Trinen misinterpreted "And then the store is coming later?" as referring to announcements about the eShop, hence the confusion - he's still promising that such announcements will happen before launch. But we'll see.

 

[Ezduo]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/virtual-console-the-legend/709499

They say shot off screen in 2D, will the classic games all be playable in 3D?

 

[Speevy]

nm, misread something.

 

[RurouniZel]

They say shot off screen in 2D, will the classic games all be playable in 3D?

That'd be a no. That would require retooling all of the games for 3D and like the Wii's VC, these are likely to be nothing more than straight up ROM dumps.

 

[Amir0x]

As for accusing me of not reading the topic, I was having a parallel discussion about something else on the thread, which was already derailed into discussions about launch line ups. If by implication your saying Im following you around, then maybe you're more upset about this running disagreement than you let on.

My implication is only you did not read the thread and tried to accuse me of still flinging about an opinion all the time that you don't like to hear. Which, as demonstrated, is not true. Wily pulled up comments made around DS Lite launch. Nothing more, nothing less.

Yeah, the problem people have with you, Amirox is not that you "post with conviction" or whatever.(Who doesn't?) It's that you usually are the first to start slinging personal insults, which lowers the quality of the conversation and ultimately weakens your argument.

Things along the line of: "I'm right and if you're dumb/illiterate enough not to see why I'm right, then I don't think we can even talk on the same level."

What does that serve? How does the conversation benefit from that?

I'm insulted that after all this time people still make up bullshit about me slinging insults. You may say I'm rude or 'in-your-face' and stubborn, but I don't fling insults and I'd say you'd be hard pressed to find a single occasion in the past three years where I've flung an insult AT a person instead of AT an opinion being made. I make it a personal point not to fling insults; I ban for insult flinging. I may say 'this opinion is fucking dumb', but that is not a personal slight against the person making the statement.

Anyway, this is really off topic, but don't invent shit in your mind to compensate for why you cannot rationally have discussions with people with strong opinions.

So I can be really clear, this is the transcript of the relevant part of the conversation (which we'll run, probably edited for space and clarity, later today):

Wired.com: So the first thing I wanted to ask about is launch titles. What’s getting released on March 27 and what’s getting released later?

Bill Trinen: At today’s event, we’re only talking about the launch window. In terms of the day-to-day titles, we’ll probably be going into that in the next few months, closer to launch. For built-in software as well, obviously we showed the 3-D system demo with the Nintendo 3DS camera, AR Games, the Mii Maker – those are all built-in along with 3DS sound, Mii Plaza, Face Raiders…

Wired.com: And then the store is coming later?

Bill Trinen: Yeah, obviously, I mean we saw the video of the store today — we have a lot more features on this version than on Wii and Nintendo DSi. In terms of how or when it’s going to be available, that’s an announcement for another day.

Wired.com: I was really impressed with the store. Do you think it will be available before E3, within the launch window?

Bill Trinen: Today we’re really focused on the price announcement, the launch window time frame, and then in terms of specific announcements on each title in the shop, we’ll do that as we get closer to launch. We need to save some limits for later…

What I don't understand is why it actually has to be saved for some time later. I mean, Japanese launch is not far away, and really neither is the USA launch. You'd think showing the infrastructure in place with some basic games being worked on for a period of time would make sense given how close we are to launch :/

 

[FoneBone]

They say shot off screen in 2D, will the classic games all be playable in 3D?

No, only the "3D Classics" games... assuming those are still coming. Nintendo was totally silent about them on Wednesday, although apparently they were running a 3D Xevious demo in Japan last week.

 

[Bizzyb]

All handhelds are last-gen game machines because the technology to support a reasonable battery life and screen size on current gen. tech. is too costly.

Man speaks the truth. At least from a technical point he is right.

 

[Shiggy]

Has anyone asked about Virtual Console 3D yet? Trinen could've clarified that.

 

[Gaborn]

Related to Wired's argument:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-21-3ds-estore-will-be-ready-on-day-one

So... that basically reduces the argument to a fundamentally flawed PSP comparison (The 3DS has the entire DS audience to draw from, whereas the PSP was banking on PS2 owners moving for it) and some vague handwaving about Apple, without explaining why we should believe their market WILL impact the 3DS or offering any evidence that it DID impact the DS's enormous sales.

 

[Router]

They say shot off screen in 2D, will the classic games all be playable in 3D?

Yeah from what I understand the classic/retro games have been "remasterd" in 3D.

*edit*

Well, the some of them anyway, others will be standard 2D

 

[Vinci]

People are too damned sensitive these days. I'm seeing 'troll' called out on a daily basis, and almost always on shit that has no relation to trolling whatsoever. I'm starting to wonder if some of you people have ever seen real trolling. Believe me, it's markedly different.

I've been a mod many times before. Trust me, nothing Amirox has said in this thread has been anywhere close to trolling.

 

[Bizzyb]

People are too damned sensitive these days. I'm seeing 'troll' called out on a daily basis, and almost always on shit that has no relation to trolling whatsoever. I'm starting to wonder if some of you people have ever seen real trolling. Believe me, it's markedly different.

I've been a mod many times before. Trust me, nothing Amirox has said in this thread has been anywhere close to trolling.

I agree. Amirox is no troll but he can be obnoxious with his opinions.

Nintendo fans are the most easily butthurt. That's why.

At least you have the decency (and maturity) to not use the word "fanboy". I think that it is because they are also the most passionate. Nintendo's sole purpose is vidoegames. MS and Sony, not so much

 

[notworksafe]

People are too damned sensitive these days. I'm seeing 'troll' called out on a daily basis, and almost always on shit that has no relation to trolling whatsoever. I'm starting to wonder if some of you people have ever seen real trolling. Believe me, it's markedly different.

I've been a mod many times before. Trust me, nothing Amirox has said in this thread has been anywhere close to trolling.

Nintendo fans are the most easily butthurt. That's why.

 

[Vinci]

I agree. Amirox is no troll but he can be obnoxious with his opinions.

Everyone on this board can be obnoxious with their opinions.

Nintendo fans are the most easily butthurt. That's why.

It's generally pretty across the board. But yes, many are very sensitive.

 

[boomerisgod]

Nintendo fans are the most easily butthurt. That's why.

Now that's a good example of trolling...

 

[Amir0x]

Haha, listen I don't want this thread to become about me AGAIN, but it's difficult not to take slight offense at the implication that my genuine opinions are attempts to troll or that i insult people personally. I just think it's a real misreading of the type of person I am.

Anyway

As to the 3DS, good to hear that the store will be updated on day 1. I hope Link's Awakening is in the store. One of the only Gameboy games I ever liked would be nice to download.

I can think of very few good Gameboy games, but if people had to list GB/GBC games that must come to the virtual console, which would they choose?

I'd guess

Mario Land titles
Pokemon titles
Link's Awakening
Oracle of Seasons/Ages
Metal Gear Ghost Babel
Metroid 2
Tetris Attack

 

[plagiarize]

Everyone on this board can be obnoxious with their opinions.

that is such a mean thing to say.

oooooooooh i get it.

 

[Momo]

People are too damned sensitive these days. I'm seeing 'troll' called out on a daily basis, and almost always on shit that has no relation to trolling whatsoever. I'm starting to wonder if some of you people have ever seen real trolling. Believe me, it's markedly different.

I've been a mod many times before. Trust me, nothing Amirox has said in this thread has been anywhere close to trolling.

Off topic, I've dealt with the worst of the worst trolls the internet has to offer, still do regularly. I post/mod/admin on a ton of troll infested hell holes , what we have here is most certainly not a case of trolling.

 

[Bizzyb]

Everyone on this board can be obnoxious with their opinions.

true, but some people are more prone to it than others. that's all I'm sayin on the matter

 

[notworksafe]

Now that's a good example of trolling...

Is it? Even freakouts by Sony fanboys can be held off longer than the tear stained letters from anyone with a Nintendo related avatar.

Case in point: nearly every response to Amir0x in this thread.

 

[Cheech]

People are too damned sensitive these days. I'm seeing 'troll' called out on a daily basis, and almost always on shit that has no relation to trolling whatsoever. I'm starting to wonder if some of you people have ever seen real trolling. Believe me, it's markedly different.

I've been a mod many times before. Trust me, nothing Amirox has said in this thread has been anywhere close to trolling.

I was told that my "zealotry" was showing in this very thread.

The thing is, if somebody gets so worked up over an opinion that is different from theirs, who is really the fanboy/console warrior/etc. etc.? Learning to take criticism regarding something you like is part of being an adult, FFS. Learning to discuss said criticism instead of just throwing "fanboy" out there is a sign of maturity.

Nintendo fans are the most easily butthurt. That's why.

C+

 

[Gravijah]

Is it? Even freakouts by Sony fanboys can be held off longer than the tear stained letters from anyone with a Nintendo related avatar.

Case in point: nearly every response to Amir0x in this thread.

my old avatar was nintendo related yet my letters are not tear stained ;/

 

[Boney]

Is it? Even freakouts by Sony fanboys can be held off longer than the tear stained letters from anyone with a Nintendo related avatar.

That fucking shit is so retarded.

btw little Raichu, Nes games are 5 bucks, I suspect GB games, if standarly priced, to be either 3 or 4 bucks.

 

[Vinci]

I was told that my "zealotry" was showing in this very thread.

The thing is, if somebody gets so worked up over an opinion that is different from theirs, who is really the fanboy/console warrior/etc. etc.? Learning to take criticism regarding something you like is part of being an adult, FFS. Learning to discuss said criticism instead of just throwing "fanboy" out there is a sign of maturity.

You said it!





What was your opinion again?

 

[Amir0x]

Alright enough fun let's get back on topic >_<

 

[Father_Brain]

I can think of very few good Gameboy games, but if people had to list GB/GBC games that must come to the virtual console, which would they choose?

I'd guess

Mario Land titles
Pokemon titles
Link's Awakening
Oracle of Seasons/Ages
Metal Gear Ghost Babel
Metroid 2
Tetris Attack

Off the top of my head, I'd add the Wario Land series, the "Final Fantasy" titles, Shantae, and the two GBC Tomb Raider titles (not sure how well they hold up, but I enjoyed them at the time and the visuals are amazing for the hardware).

 

[Vinci]

Alright enough fun let's get back on topic >_<

Okay, bitch.

IMO: The 3DS is gonna sells lots and lots, but I won't be buying one for at least two years. Also, none of the current lineup of games looks very good. And I think the Coins thing is really incredibly clever, but might be the only thing about the device - excluding its cameras - that has any real potential to change up how people utilize the thing.

 

[notworksafe]

That fucking shit is so retarded.

:lol

uh huh.

 

[Amir0x]

Okay, bitch.

IMO: The 3DS is gonna sells lots and lots, but I won't be buying one for at least two years. Also, none of the current lineup of games looks very good. And I think the Coins thing is really incredibly clever, but might be the only thing about the device - excluding its cameras - that has any real potential to change up how people utilize the thing.

TWO years? Wow. I don't think I'd be able to not play Paper Mario 3DS for that long. I cannot think of a single game I'm more excited about at the moment.

I don't disagree with the lineup being kinda shaky, but I think I'll be able to find at least one game to hold me over while I wait for Paper Mario 3DS.

I'm hoping STEEL DIVER is the surprise game that does it. And I'm hoping Nintendo announces a new dungeon or two for Ocarina of Time so I can justify the purchase.

 

[Boney]

:lol

uh huh.

where's the funny?

 

[zigg]

And I'm hoping Nintendo announces a new dungeon or two for Ocarina of Time so I can justify the purchase.

Yeah, about that

http://kotaku.com/5738690/zelda+remake-will-be-more-user+friendly-on-the-3ds-probably-not-longer

The still-undated remake of The Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time for the Nintendo 3DS looks better and has a better inventory system — an upgrade that shouldn't be underestimated. But don't expect new content.

"I wouldn't anticipate any extra dungeons," Nintendo's Bill Trinen told Kotaku in an interview yesterday in New York City, a few hours after I played the visually-impressive Ocarina re-make.