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Nintendo broke my heart, how about you?

Wilsongt said:
No, just pissed me off.

I really wanted Fire Emblem 12.


... :'(

Oh, and after playing the best the Wii has to offer, I can pretty much say I agree with OP. The Wiimote is a horrible controller, and I hope it dies a painful death. (I also happen to yell at clouds in my spare time.)
 
omg.kittens said:
I used to mostly like Nintendo, now I mostly don't. It's okay, though, cause I like lots of other games.

I would love to see them go back to their SNES glory days, though. Super Mario Galaxy 1/2, NSMBWii (despite the 2.5D), and Kirby Canvas Curse are the only Nintendo games I've been excited about this gen.

I think the SNES glory days were due to the high level of third party support. I don't remember Nintendo themselves having such a big difference of games on SNES over Wii.
 
Icanplaythat said:
If they cater to all gamers, why are the traditional controls for Twilight Princess (which Nintendo developed) not present in the game. If they cater to "everyone", why can't I plug a keyboard and mouse into the Wii? If it's "everyone join in", why are there so many exclusions and restrictions?

Because Nintendo traditionally doesn't offer control, or really, player options at all in their games? They have a single design plan that everyone must go through. Most of the games developed by EAD itself seem to follow that approach in multiple aspects. It might be a "flaw", but it has always been there. It's not new. None of the other Zelda or Mario platformer games offer options to the player.
 
Sotha Sil said:
... :'(

Oh, and after playing the best the Wii has to offer, I can pretty much say I agree with OP. The Wiimote is a horrible controller, and I hope it dies a painful death. (I also happen to yell at clouds in my spare time.)

I don't think the Wiimote itself is a horrible controller. The Waggle and Motion Control aspects of it I have not seen used well outside of Galaxy, and even in Galaxy that could be bound to a button.

However, the IR pointer is criminally underused and under appreciated. It's the best thing ever to happen to first person shooters on a console, and nobody seems to give a fuck in the industry.
 
Sotha Sil said:
... :'(

Oh, and after playing the best the Wii has to offer, I can pretty much say I agree with OP. The Wiimote is a horrible controller, and I hope it dies a painful death. (I also happen to yell at clouds in my spare time.)

Fucking piece of shit clouds, fuckers.
 
Marrshu said:
I don't think the Wiimote itself is a horrible controller. The Waggle and Motion Control aspects of it however I have not seen used well outside of Galaxy, and even in Galaxy that could be bound to a button.


In all seriousness, that's pretty much how I feel. I don't hate it hate it, but I would choose a normal controller over it any day.
 
To the OP, sorta. The way they've handled the twilight years of the wii (my most played console this gen) and the initial 3ds launch...

Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence going forward, that's for sure. I sure as hell will be thinking long and hard about being there day one for wii-u.
 
Sotha Sil said:
In all seriousness, that's pretty much how I feel. I don't hate it hate it, but I would choose a normal controller over it any day.

Yeah, same. It didn't add anything to New Super Mario Bros Wii/DKCR, and actively hurt Metroid Other M as a game.

Nintendo thankfully realized the IR pointer's potential for Metroid Prime, however.
 
NeonZ said:
Because Nintendo traditionally doesn't offer control, or really, player options at all in their games? They have a single design plan that everyone must go through. Most of the games developed by EAD itself seem to follow that approach in multiple aspects. It might be a "flaw", but it has always been there. It's not new. None of the other Zelda or Mario platformer games offer options to the player.

If they adhere to such a philosophy, how can someone then claim Nintendo welcomes all players? Especially when the hardware is capable of accommodating a myriad of controllers.
 
The thing about Galaxy is I don't think I would really want to bind spin to a button. Not only does motion work well for secondary functions rather than another frontal primary input but something about punching the controller was greatly satisfying. I found myself exaggerating movements just because it was fun. I think if you can't really enjoy yourself like that you really can't appreciate Wii.
 
Somnid said:
The thing about Galaxy is I don't think I would really want to bind spin to a button. Not only does motion work well for secondary functions rather than another frontal primary input but something about punching the controller was greatly satisfying. I found myself exaggerating movements just because it was fun. I think if you can't really enjoy yourself like that you really can't appreciate Wii.

Galaxy has had one of the better use of motion controls outside of Wii Sports. I won't say it's superior to a traditional button, but it certainly works. On top of being enjoyable and, as you put it, greatly satisfying.

However, not counting Wii Sports and its ilk, I haven't really seen this in any other Wii game off the top of my head. The vast majority of waggle controls are just... bad.
 
Boney said:
You're the one bringing it back!

Liar!!
I noticed the Metroid Trilogy collection being posted and looked at my boring EU non-steelbook copy sitting on my shelf with next to it... you guessed it Metroid: Other M. I swear that game haunts me.

Still Phantom Hourglass vs. Link's Awakening might've been a better example.
 
LOL no. They made the best games 25 years ago and they still make the best games today. I just hope the IR pointer will still be supported on the Wii U or else we'll lose out on the biggest control evolution of this generation.
 
Arcblade said:
No.

I just fucked her for a few gen, then left.
Pretty much. Outside of Galaxy I didn't really care for anything Nintendo released on the Wii, and I don't see Skyward Sword really changing that.
Fucking Wiimote
 
Jokeropia said:
LOL no. They made the best games 25 years ago and they still make the best games today. I just hope the IR pointer will still be supported on the Wii U or else we'll lose out on the biggest control evolution of this generation.

It's fully backwards compatible with the Wii, and the controller has one built in if I recall.

The question of if developers will support that control scheme is another issue entirely. It's a fucking crime how underutilized the IR pointer is. I'm still baffled that there are PS3 games not shipping with PS Move support.
 
Was done with nintendo after n64. As a graphics and features whore their business model of overpriced underpowered machines threatens my sweet heaven of consoles that at least TRY to be bleeding edge. I can't support that shit.

Mario party, Mario kart and smash bros are crack on an optical disc though. Before you know it you're drunk and it's 3am with those 3. Zelda/metroid series are lame IMO.
 
Upset with the 3DS.

Wanted to love it (and I LOVED OOT 3D)...but when I end up playing on a PSP GO more than it, then that's saying something, isn't it?

I'm trading it in tomorrow to put the money towards paying for Batman: Arkham City and Zelda Wii in full, and then I'll have money left to put towards a Vita.

I'll rebuy a 3DS next year once there's an AMAZING line up of games out/a redesign.
 
Icanplaythat said:
Wind Waker > Twilight Princess

MP1 > MP2 > MP3

Thousand Year Door > Super Paper Mario

Animal Crossing > City Folk

Pikmin 1&2 > All other first party Wii games

While this is all very true, you left out the biggest one.

Melee > Brawl

Seriously.
 
richisawesome said:
Upset with the 3DS.

Wanted to love it (and I LOVED OOT 3D)...but when I end up playing on a PSP GO more than it, then that's saying something, isn't it?

I'm trading it in tomorrow to put the money towards paying for Batman: Arkham City and Zelda Wii in full, and then I'll have money left to put towards a Vita.

I'll rebuy a 3DS next year once there's an AMAZING line up of games out/a redesign.


So... you're going to sell the 3DS for a loss, then rebuy it when it might cost more?
I see...
 
AceBandage said:
So... you're going to sell the 3DS for a loss, then rebuy it when it might cost more?
I see...
It happens all the time on Gaf and I'll never understand it. No matter how much disposable income you have it just makes no sense.
 
[Nintex] said:
I noticed the Metroid Trilogy collection being posted and looked at my boring EU non-steelbook copy sitting on my shelf with next to it... you guessed it Metroid: Other M. I swear that game haunts me.

Still Phantom Hourglass vs. Link's Awakening might've been a better example.
No good sir. I won't have this. I'll be keeping an eye out on you and one more time and you'll see a tantrum from me.

And Spirit Tracks is even worse than PH.
 
Boney said:
No good sir. I won't have this. I'll be keeping an eye out on you and one more time and you'll see a tantrum from me.

And Spirit Tracks is even worse than PH.
Spirit Tracks is better in every way especially the dungeons.
 
AceBandage said:
So... you're going to sell the 3DS for a loss, then rebuy it when it might cost more?
I see...
I don't think the trade-in value of a 3DS will even cover Batman and Zelda nowadays.
 
artwalknoon said:
It happens all the time on Gaf and I'll never understand it. No matter how much disposable income you have it just makes no sense.
It's because, despite the fact that most people here have 3-4 other systems to spend their time on during the software drought, many gamers hate the idea of owning something that doesn't come out with at least 2-3 games worth playing every single month.

Boney said:
And Spirit Tracks is even worse than PH.
Your opinion is wrong.
 
AceBandage said:
So... you're going to sell the 3DS for a loss, then rebuy it when it might cost more?
I see...

Staff discount dude.

We have the 3DS for £120 at work pre-owned, and I get 20% off. I get £90 for mine on trade in. I'll lose £6 if I rebuy it (as it'd cost £96 for me to buy a 3DS). Big whoop.

And chances are when I decide to buy it back, it'll probably be even cheaper. Not losing any money, however I get money to spend on things I'd rather have right now. Surely that's easy to understand?

JJConrad said:
I don't think the trade-in value of a 3DS will even cover Batman and Zelda nowadays.

£90 trade in for 3DS.

Batman will cost me £28. Same for Zelda. And then I have money left over. You were saying?
 
richisawesome said:
Staff discount dude.

We have them for £120 at work pre-owned, and I get 20% off. I get £90 for it trade in. I'll lose £6. Big whoop.

And chances are when I decide to buy it back, it'll probably be even cheaper. Not losing any money, however I get money to spend on things I'd rather have right now. Surely that's easy to understand?
It wouldn't be a shocker if 3DS's revision ended up being more expensive. It'll probably have a bigger battery and bigger screens.
 
Was never in love. Enjoyed the NES/SNES era, but since the only thing I've ever enjoyed on a Nintendo console was probably Goldeneye. I don't understand Nintendo's design philosophy with their games and their hardware, and judging by the WiiU, I never will.

Which I'm ok with, plenty of other stuff out there to play.
 
Marrshu said:
It's fully backwards compatible with the Wii, and the controller has one built in if I recall.

The question of if developers will support that control scheme is another issue entirely.
Yep, exactly.
 
Icanplaythat said:
Fuck off asshole.
lol! I like your OP and it has been fun watching people get mad at you for having an opinion about the Nintendo products you tried out, but this might be my new favorite point of the thread.

*edited because ShockingAlberto pointed out in snarky fashion that I forgot the OP's life story after 400 posts of fun-to-read drivel.
 
Well this thread sure went to hell fast. But a little more seriously, I think Gaf should have a permanent "I stopped liking Nintendo" and "I stopped playing videogames" thread and people just add posts whenever they fall into either camp because new threads start with these two topics all the time. I have no problem with these new threads existing I just think it'd be more organized and consolidated.
 
If you heart sinks when playing either Mario Galaxy 1 & 2...

well...

there's not much to say.

To me, Nintendo is kinda like a girl you loved all your life, but then suddenly she needed to move away to the other side of the country. In her new home she made tons of new friends, and got really popular...

...but every so often...around 2-3 times every year, she still stops by and visits and gives you a damned good blowjob.
 
JordanLMiller said:
It wasn't a troll post. This topic has been discussed to death literally for years...

I couldn't tell if it was a troll post or if you had nothing to add, honestly. You may think the topic has been discussed to death and such, but I find such conversations are interesting. Plus, there are new people here who weren't here last time.

BurntPork said:
It wouldn't be a shocker if 3DS's revision ended up being more expensive. It'll probably have a bigger battery and bigger screens.

I'm okay with a bigger battery honestly. I would, however, like a model without 3D. I can't see the 3D effects, so it's bumping up the cost of the system, then it's just a waste of my money. :\
 
Well, there we go.

In the end the OP has already made his mind regarding the Wii. No amount of list wars, or ..common sense will change it. "Fuck of asshsole" is just the cherry on top; granted is not like the other poster had an argument other then "lol grow up". :p

Not to mention that the title should've been "The Wii broke my heart". During the Wii, Nintendo also had the DS "family" and even a few GBA games. So saying that "Nintendo as a whole" failed to cater to the OPs taste. Then again, the OP also said that he doesn't own any current gen console (and may buy a PS3 to Play Madden wit his brother; when Madden is released on anything that has some kind of input and a screen), so guess Sony and Microsoft broke his heart too. :p

So, give the Wii/DS/etc. a try again with a more open mind. Try games with "traditional controller methods"; or just buy a PS3 an enjoy more things other than Madden. Uncharted, Killzone, LittleBigPlanet...and so on.
 
I understand WHY Nintendo did what it did. Because honestly, why spend so much money on R&D to compete with the same userbase that Sony and Microsoft are trying their best to gobble up when there's a plethora of users out there that will buy your games sans hardware.

As a "hardcore" gamer (which is such a lame term I really don't like it or think it really means anything because my playtime is completely casual but my interests are more in tune with that) I just can't get into the Wii. But does that make what Nintendo is doing bad/wrong?

Absolutely not! I friggin LOVE my 3DS. And am looking forward to plenty of games on it. Will I get the next Nintendo console? Not at launch, but eventually given decent reviews.
 
[Nintex] said:
Spirit Tracks is better in every way especially the dungeons.
Controlling the darn phantoms made it awfully dull and slow. Hated it, haven't even finished it actually.
 
artwalknoon said:
I think Gaf should have a permanent "I stopped liking Nintendo" and "I stopped playing videogames" thread and people just add posts whenever they fall into either camp because new threads start with these two topics all the time.

New thread for new news....even if that news is just the heartache a company has inflicted so fanboys can get mad over it.
 
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