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Nintendo enlarges Wii dev teams, shrinks DS teams

Gigglepoo said:
And friggin' awesome.

I need to get Days of Ruin.

What is coming out for the NDS this year? I can only think of four big games: Layton, DoR, Phoenix Wright 4 and Gaiden DS. I'm sure there are others, but I have no idea what.
From Nintendo there's also the promise of Fire Emblem, Kirby Super DLXE, Pokedungeon 2 and Soma Bringer. Maybe if we're lucky we'll get Card Hero too. <3 <3

Tons of stuff from Square Enix (FFCC, FFTA2, FF4, DQ remakes, WEWY, KH spinoff, etc) too. Outside that there's some choice sequels and niche efforts (Etrian Odyssey 2, Rune Factory 2, New Harvest Moon, Bangai-O Spirits, Metal Slug 7, New Castlevania, Sonic Chronicles, etc). Not a bad year overall imo, and it's barely started.
 
jarrod said:
From Nintendo there's also the promise of Fire Emblem, Kirby Super DLXE, Pokedungeon 2 and Soma Bringer. Maybe if we're lucky we'll get Card Hero too. <3 <3

Tons of stuff from Square Enix (FFCC, FFTA2, FF4, DQ remakes, WEWY, KH spinoff, etc) too. Outside that there's some choice sequels and niche efforts (Etrian Odyssey 2, Rune Factory 2, New Harvest Moon, Bangai-O Spirits, Metal Slug 7, New Castlevania, Sonic Chronicles, etc). Not a bad year overall imo, and it's barely started.

Shit, I forgot all about Metal Slug 7 and Sonic Chronicles.
 
farnham said:
Uh... If you refer to all consoles ever... Dont forget Nintendo made some of the best games ever (namely Super Mario Bros., Super Metroid, Zelda OoT)

I never really did get very interested in those games (exception being the Metroid games). I just have different tastes and want them satisified that's all. Remember, I have nothing against Nintendo I just have a few tiny demands. :lol
 
As far as the future of DS goes, in addition to what everyone else has said (namely Kirby Ultra Super Deluxe, the Dragon Quest quartet, Metal Slug 7, Card Hero, another Castlevania, Fire Emblem DS, Etrian Odyssey 2, The World Ends With You, Sonic Chronicles, and possibly Bangai-O Spirits), I'm also hoping for localizations of Tales of Innocence, Yosumin, and any of the three Summon Night games going to DS. And Time Hollow, but I'm trying not to go too far with optimism.



Threi said:
I'm pretty sure he meant was referring to the DS shrinking part. How anyone can see increased Wii support as a bad thing is beyond me.
Some third-parties have already openly said that they worry about having to compete with Nintendo first-party content. Couple that with Nintendo increasing support on Wii and it's not necessarily a good situation... DS already has excellent third-party support, but it seems to me that Wii still needs to convince developers.
 
So Nintendo will continue releasing software for their hardware? Yeah? Sweet.

Just so I understand the complexities at hand. Nintendo is shifting software priorities from an all-time, best selling portable system that had and has in spades mature 1st/2nd and 3rd party software support, to their recently released home console which is in dire need of software maturation?

......

And the above is not in response to the OP, but to the usual characters, responces.

Good news, and about time.
 
So this would be both good and bad. Bad for Wii thid party development since they are so scaried of Nintendo titles. Or this injection really give a boost in the interest for traditional games on Wii, if Nintendo is planning develop more core content with this.
 
enlarge wii dev kit ...

hummm

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Well, 3rd parties pretty clearly have no clue what they're doing... Nintendo *has* to lead the way. :lol

I wonder how long until Level 5 announces a Wii game?
 
Of course, the real question with regards to Nintendo's increased first party support for Wii is if we'll get some actual good games or a string of Wii Play sequels.
 
Ike said:
Hopefully this means good things.
Actually, I'm hoping the same. Only because Nintendo might as well support the Wii all by it lonesome since no 3rd party devs actually want to put effort in their Wii games. The ones that do put effort into the actual game, don't even bother to actually market them (I'm looking at you Capcom!).

The DS on the other hand has AMAZING 3rd party support going for it the last 2 years. Most of my owned DS games are 3rd Party games.
 
AniHawk said:
Fire Emblem Dragon of Darkness and Sword of Light and Kirby Ultra Super Deluxe.

There's a new Kirby? Is is more like Canvas Curse or Squeak Squad?

And I forgot about Sonic Chronicles. I'm all over there.
 
VeritasVierge said:
Actually, I'm hoping the same. Only because Nintendo might as well support the Wii all by it lonesome since no 3rd party devs actually want to put effort in their Wii games.
Yeah, I've definitely considered this too. If it's truly not possible to get third-parties to jump on board regardless of whether the first-party presence is larger or smaller, then I suppose it might as well be larger.

But they still shouldn't have to take away from DS to do it. :(



Gigglepoo said:
There's a new Kirby?
It's a remake of Kirby Super Star on SNES, AKA Best Kirby Ever By Far. Don't know how much new content there is, though.
 
AniHawk said:
It's a remake/upgrade of Kirby Super Star.

Oh...

Kirby Super Star is great, but I've already played through it a dozen times. Did Canvas Curse completely bomb? Why aren't they making a touchscreen Kirby? That's still one of the best overall games on the system and easily the best implementation of touchscreen controls I've played.
 
AniHawk said:
It's a remake/upgrade of Kirby Super Star.
Please tell em you're not lying and just messing with us. If you're lying that will hurt me.

Jiggy37 said:
Yeah, I've definitely considered this too. If it's truly not possible to get third-parties to jump on board regardless of whether the first-party presence is larger or smaller, then I suppose it might as well be smaller.

But they still shouldn't have to take away from DS to do it. :(


It's a remake of Kirby Super Star on SNES, AKA Best Kirby Ever By Far. Don't know how much new content there is, though.
So it's real? I mean no BS? Where have I been?
 
TunaLover said:
Animal Crossing Wii is very underway, it's appear in the official list of first party games published by Nintendo some days ago. Surprise Kirby Wii was there too :O

I really want to know what on earth HAL is doing with that Kirby game. You don't spend three years of development on something like a Kirby platformer without a very good reason.
 
Stumpokapow said:
I don't know what to tell you. From last spring to this spring, we got/will get: Picross, Planet Puzzle League, DK Jungle Climber, Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Chibi-Robo, Flash Focus, Brain Age 2, Mario Party DS, Master of Illusion, Pokemon DP, Advance Wars DoR, Professor Layton (published), Nintendo Crossword.

In Japan, add ASH, Ouendan 2, Slide Adventure Mag Kid, Kurikin Nano Island Story, Pokemon Ranger 2, Soma Bringer, DS Literature Collection, and theta.

I mean, I wouldn't say 2007-2008 is up to par with the excellent 2006, but it's not as though there's been any drought of DS titles whether you consider it in terms of first-party or in terms of software as a whole.

I have most everything on that list (and also Hotel Dusk), but 2007 still felt a little thin. 2008 is starting off with an awesome bang with Advance Wars, and Squeenix will keep me plenty occupied once their stuff hits, but I'm looking for more good 2d gaming. Metroid, another Mario, a new side-scrolling franchise or something. I want to get more "fun" stuff, as everything seems to be geared towards "training" or thinking and puzzle games. I love Advance Wars, Picross, Crossword, BBA and can't wait for Fire Emblem...but I want something fresh, fun, and exciting too.

threi said:
The fuck?

I'm pretty sure he meant was referring to the DS shrinking part. How anyone can see increased Wii support as a bad thing is beyond me.

More support is never a bad thing...but for the most I haven't been liking Nintendo's direction with the Wii so far. A part of it is intrinsic for me as I really don't like the controller at all and I can't help but be bothered by the system already showing its age, but first party software hasn't been the problem on the system so far. If their increased support includes teaming up with third parties to put together original content, that would be great. But so far, Nintendo and me this generation just don't mesh very well...so any reduction in support on the awesome DS is bad news for me.

F-Zero would be a nice surprise.
Perhaps a new, original RPG.
Earthbound!
 
jarrod said:
From Nintendo there's also the promise of Fire Emblem, Kirby Super DLXE, Pokedungeon 2 and Soma Bringer. Maybe if we're lucky we'll get Card Hero too. <3 <3

Tons of stuff from Square Enix (FFCC, FFTA2, FF4, DQ remakes, WEWY, KH spinoff, etc) too. Outside that there's some choice sequels and niche efforts (Etrian Odyssey 2, Rune Factory 2, New Harvest Moon, Bangai-O Spirits, Metal Slug 7, New Castlevania, Sonic Chronicles, etc). Not a bad year overall imo, and it's barely started.

Has Castlevania been announced? Is EO2 a sure thing for NA?
2008 is looking to be pretty fucking awesome for the DS. A new 2D Metroid would clinch it.
 
Gigglepoo said:
Nintendo is still suffering from a Wii shortage, no? They should probably ramp up production.
They have, several times. First time as early as January 2007, and at least three more times since.
 
TheGreatDave said:
Does this mean I'm closer to getting Paper Mario 3? IS have to be doing something.
Well they just finished Advance Wars, and they have that Fire Emblem remake in the works...I'd be surprised if another console game was anywhere past the planning stages... =(
 
Forgotten Ancient said:
F-Zero would be a nice surprise.
Perhaps a new, original RPG.
Earthbound!


well..it's not like nintendo lacks of internal team. even if they rightfully shift some resources toward the console that needs them, they still keep developing games for ds...maybe they will focus in less and bigger releases every year.
 
TheGreatDave said:
Well, you know. We've had enough Fire Emblems in the last 5 years.

I never understood how a series like that, which doesn't happen to sell that well to begin with (at least in relation to some of the more successful IS games) gets so many goddamn sequels.
 
aeolist said:
Brawl runs on the Melee engine, which Sakurai got from HAL.
And going back further, the Melee engine was inspired by the SSB N64 engine, which was inspired by the SNES Kirby Super Star engine.

Now, why HAL won't just reuse the KSS engine that already works and is excellent, I don't know. :(
 
Oblivion said:
I never understood how a series like that, which doesn't happen to sell that well to begin with (at least in relation to some of the more successful IS games) gets so many goddamn sequels.

Because they're so fucking awesome, that's why.
 
Oblivion said:
I never understood how a series like that, which doesn't happen to sell that well to begin with (at least in relation to some of the more successful IS games) gets so many goddamn sequels.

Probably because it's extremely easy to make and they can reuse the same engine and art over and over and over again.

Don't get me wrong, I like a little Fire Emblem, but I don't want IS to keep making them constantly.
 
AniHawk said:
Because they're so fucking awesome, that's why.
Ani.. for once i fricken call your opinion.. f to the haters

TheGreatDave said:
Probably because it's extremely easy to make and they can reuse the same engine and art over and over and over again.

Don't get me wrong, I like a little Fire Emblem, but I don't want IS to keep making them constantly.


I do agree that they should get a modern setting for once.. (something like french revolution instead of medieval) or better production value.. but stop the series... NEVER...
 
Oblivion said:
I never understood how a series like that, which doesn't happen to sell that well to begin with (at least in relation to some of the more successful IS games) gets so many goddamn sequels.


'cause there's a hardcore fanbase that buy and love every episode.

and we had 4 titles in the last 5 years...on 3 different platforms...where's the problem?

and everyone should love nintendo for keeping alive a franchise that doesn't sells millions but still is beloved by fans
 
AniHawk said:
Because they're so fucking awesome, that's why.

farnham said:
Ani.. for once i fricken call your opinion.. f to the haters

Certainly not hatin, and they're great games sure enough. Was just wondering about the rationale.
 
Oblivion said:
I never understood how a series like that, which doesn't happen to sell that well to begin with (at least in relation to some of the more successful IS games) gets so many goddamn sequels.
They're pretty low budget, and they sell well enough. I think Nintendo sort of lets IntSys develop what they want as long as they keep making money.
 
farnham said:
I do agree that they should get a modern setting for once.. (something like french revolution instead of medieval) or better production value.. but stop the series... NEVER...

I don't want them to stop the series. But I know I won't buy another Fire Emblem game until I feel "oh, it's been awhile since one of these came out". I guess that's because I'm not hardcore in to them.
 
Oblivion said:
I never understood how a series like that, which doesn't happen to sell that well to begin with (at least in relation to some of the more successful IS games) gets so many goddamn sequels.

I'm sure it still turns a profit and they can be sure that while their <500k sales aren't impressive, they'll be consistent as long as they make them good. And they're really, really freaking good.
 
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