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Nintendo enlarges Wii dev teams, shrinks DS teams

Forgotten Ancient said:
Yup. The Wii has been nothing but a depressing disappointment for me. More first party software isn't the answer I'm looking for to correct that either.
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Christ, does it really matter where the games come from?
 
if this means that wii will get the kind of robust first-party software that ds has enjoyed, i'm sure i can look forward to freeing up a component video input for my ps2
 
Considering that the DS had one of the best Nintendo lineups EVER, I have high hopes since these teams are now working on the Wii.
 
birdchili said:
so far, nintendo isn't making new ip for core players. if you want that, third parties seem like a more likely place of hope.
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We'll see, but the acquisition of Monolith Soft doesn't show a corporate mindset to abandon the hardcore gamer. And some new IPs are sure to come from it.
 
beef3483 said:
We'll see how much they do, but the acquisition of Monolith leads me to believe that Nintendo isn't abandoning the core gamer. I can guarantee Monolith Soft won't be making any casual games any time soon.
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they're not abandoning them, but they're giving them a lot of gamecube sequels so far. even mario didn't seem as "designed for wii control" as it should have - new ip lets you design for the controller with more freedom.
 
birdchili said:
they're not abandoning them, but they're giving them a lot of gamecube sequels so far. even mario didn't seem as "designed for wii control" as it should have - new ip lets you design for the controller with more freedom.
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I wholeheartedly agree. But I think that Nintendo has some new IPs planned.
 
drohne said:
if this means that wii will get the kind of robust first-party software that ds has enjoyed, i'm sure i can look forward to freeing up a component video input for my ps2
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Are you saying that the DS has not had good first party support or do I need GAF Troll Interpreting Training (launch TBA 2008)?
 
Perhaps Nintendo is slowing development on NDS games because they're getting close to a point in which they (Nintendo) need to focus on the Wii for awhile, before going back to the NEW handheld the NDS2 (or whatever it's called) by the time the new Wii teams (old NDS teams) were working on, would be finished, then back to the new handheld. The timing for it all WOULD make sense, as it still is another 1-2 years off from anything.
 
kiruyama said:
This is for the inevitable Golden Sun 3
action console RPG
right?
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I rarely do lolcats, but...
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DiatribeEQ said:
Perhaps Nintendo is slowing development on NDS games because they're getting close to a point in which they (Nintendo) need to focus on the Wii for awhile, before going back to the NEW handheld the NDS2 (or whatever it's called) by the time the new Wii teams (old NDS teams) were working on, would be finished, then back to the new handheld. The timing for it all WOULD make sense, as it still is another 1-2 years off from anything.
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Nintendo already shifted the focus on the Wii in second half of 2006, most of the EAD teams are working on Wii titles. Basically Nintendo has reached the point of shifting now (hence the announcement), means that several teams have finished their projects on the DS and are now concentrating on the Wii.

Nintendo needs to support Wii with all their ressources for at least a year and a half. In the second half of 2009, the third parties hopefully will be able to bring the awesome stuff.
 
Stumpokapow said:
They're making two DS games and one Wii game that we know of right now. Do you think they're big enough to have four distinct games in the announcement-ready production stage?
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I think they had two console teams and one handheld team. There might be four teams these days.
 
I don't understand why anyone would be happy about this. It's ridiculous that the company should need to decrease teams on one or the other. They've got billions of dollars lying around; they should be able to maintain and increase adequate levels of support on both of their platforms; that they can't seem to grasp this indicates that the company has not evolved beyond the sad shell it was a few years back when it moved from one aborted machine to the next.
 
ethelred said:
I don't understand why anyone would be happy about this. It's ridiculous that the company should need to decrease teams on one or the other. They've got billions of dollars lying around; they should be able to maintain and increase adequate levels of support on both of their platforms; that they can't seem to grasp this indicates that the company has not evolved beyond the sad shell it was a few years back when it moved from one aborted machine to the next.
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Truth.

This is terrible news. It's not like first party output from Nintendo for the DS was anything that big to begin with, so that they feel the need to further shrink it is just ridiculous. Blergh.
 
ethelred said:
I don't understand why anyone would be happy about this. It's ridiculous that the company should need to decrease teams on one or the other. They've got billions of dollars lying around; they should be able to maintain and increase adequate levels of support on both of their platforms; that they can't seem to grasp this indicates that the company has not evolved beyond the sad shell it was a few years back when it moved from one aborted machine to the next.
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Money can't solve every problem. Capable developers don't grow on trees.
 
ethelred said:
I don't understand why anyone would be happy about this. It's ridiculous that the company should need to decrease teams on one or the other. They've got billions of dollars lying around; they should be able to maintain and increase adequate levels of support on both of their platforms; that they can't seem to grasp this indicates that the company has not evolved beyond the sad shell it was a few years back when it moved from one aborted machine to the next.
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It might be bad news for Nintendo fans who buy mostly first party stuff. For the rest of us? Third party stuff will be awesome this year.
 
wsippel said:
Money can't solve every problem. Capable developers don't grow on trees.
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and according to sakurai nintendo already hire hundreds of people for its AAA titles...simply it's not that easy to create a new intsys.

publishers rarely found dev team from zero. why should nintendo?
 
Teknoman said:
Seriously. I'm really looking forward to this.
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Ugh, am I going to have to avoid GAF altogether until the european release of Smash Bros? Even people's avatars are filled with spoilers.
 
ethelred said:
I don't understand why anyone would be happy about this. It's ridiculous that the company should need to decrease teams on one or the other. They've got billions of dollars lying around; they should be able to maintain and increase adequate levels of support on both of their platforms; that they can't seem to grasp this indicates that the company has not evolved beyond the sad shell it was a few years back when it moved from one aborted machine to the next.
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this is nintendo dude.. they have their own harsh criteria to choose their personnel..
 
i say YAY, it's time to make good use of that fucking Wiimote. The device has so much potential it deserves a lot of creative ideas... Metroid, Zack & Wiki, WarioWare, Eledees, Galaxy and a few others were a good start, but now the system needs some more brilliant solutions gameplay-wise (and maybe some new IPs too!).

Oh, by the way, i'd love to see what Disaster: Day of Crisis is, let's hope they did not fuck it up...
 
Nintendo announced they were working on 79 DS titles and 45 Wii titles (games in development internally and with 3rd parties through 2nd party agreements) in a Q&A with Iwata last year, so, this could very well be an evening out of resources, since the comment was so vague, which obviously needed to happen.

Going forward, from Nintendo internally, I want more innovative, amazing titles like Nintendogs and Brain Training from the DS teams, and from the Wii teams I want more amazing Wii Sports, Wii Fit, SMG type stuff. Thanks :D
 
ethelred said:
I don't understand why anyone would be happy about this. It's ridiculous that the company should need to decrease teams on one or the other. They've got billions of dollars lying around; they should be able to maintain and increase adequate levels of support on both of their platforms; that they can't seem to grasp this indicates that the company has not evolved beyond the sad shell it was a few years back when it moved from one aborted machine to the next.
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3rd parties now have an appearance on DS..They're even making better games then Nintendo at the moment..

The recent games from Nintendo for DS is a Zelda game thats hardly even an 8 game and a shitload of training games for Japan.

The awesome games from Nintendo for DS are actually only published by them..

Nintendo has built the path for the DS and let the 3rd parties walk that path. Nintendo could all together stop developing for the DS and the superior games would keep on rolling in.
 
The awesome games from Nintendo for DS are actually only published by them..
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Mario Kart DS was the greatest Mario Kart. A work of art that really revived the strength of the franchise in my eyes.
 
ethelred said:
I don't understand why anyone would be happy about this. It's ridiculous that the company should need to decrease teams on one or the other. They've got billions of dollars lying around; they should be able to maintain and increase adequate levels of support on both of their platforms; that they can't seem to grasp this indicates that the company has not evolved beyond the sad shell it was a few years back when it moved from one aborted machine to the next.
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Indeed
 
AntMurda said:
Mario Kart DS was the greatest Mario Kart. A work of art that really revived the strength of the franchise in my eyes.
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Yeah and look at Nintendo now??

Nintendo made the DS a success and let third parties take control after. They haven't put out anything worthwhile in the meantime.
 
Lobster said:
Yeah and look at Nintendo now??

Nintendo made the DS a success and let third parties take control after. They haven't put out anything worthwhile in the meantime.
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Advance Wars 2 says hi
 
Nintendo should use their extra cash to increase the quality of Wii software, either by funding internal development or external development. They're doing the right thing.
 
Kudos for the Wii enlargement, if this mean more good games we're all set.

But damn, Nintendo, don't mess with my DS.
 
Lobster said:
Read my first post..

Intelligent Systems is not affected by this.

Nintendo didn't even make AW2..
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Advance Wars: Days of Ruin, Fire Emblem DS and Kirby Ultimate Super Star is just as much Nintendo as Zelda: Phantom Hourglass is.

Furthermore, I would wait for e3 before saying that Nintendo is done with releasing top quality DS efforts.. but whatever.
 
wsippel said:
Money can't solve every problem. Capable developers don't grow on trees.
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Even if developers grew on trees, Nintendo is already dominating the software sales immensly. Increasing their capacity would hurt the 3rd parties even more.

Nintendo still has teams developing for the DS and still plays its role as a publisher. They could publish more third party games or let third parties developing games with Nintendo franchises. I don't think we should worry about DS software, there are lots of games in development.
 
ethelred said:
I don't understand why anyone would be happy about this. It's ridiculous that the company should need to decrease teams on one or the other. They've got billions of dollars lying around; they should be able to maintain and increase adequate levels of support on both of their platforms; that they can't seem to grasp this indicates that the company has not evolved beyond the sad shell it was a few years back when it moved from one aborted machine to the next.
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Shift happens. Levels of resources going towards various projects don't remain static or on constant upswings.

I don't get the freaking out over this, even if one strongly prefers DS over Wii. We don't have any context for what this means, or even a confirming source.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Shift happens. Levels of resources going towards various projects don't remain static or on constant upswings.

I don't get the freaking out over this, even if one strongly prefers DS over Wii. We don't have any context for what this means, or even a confirming source.
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How long i will have to keep posting this?
http://translate.google.com/transla...25qa/index.html&langpair=ja|en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Q Looking handouts and their lineup of software titles scheduled for release are weak, or less impressed. In the past few concrete development to publish the title, but I do not update it.

A The number of the development team still has not changed much in many developing software. DS software development team is currently declining, Wii software developers are increasing.
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It's from Nintendo.
 
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