Unless I'm reading the diagrams wrong, the IR cameras are on the portable device and just "see" the positions of the buttons through a window on the controller pieces.
oh I was talking about the circle pad pro
Unless I'm reading the diagrams wrong, the IR cameras are on the portable device and just "see" the positions of the buttons through a window on the controller pieces.
But there's still the issue that the game would probably be well past its prime by the time the NX drops. Maybe the Gen 2 Pokémon could bring some hype back, but I'm not sure if that'll happen (the return of the hype). I'd be down for GO on the NX (my phone only has so much space), but I'm not sure if Niniac will even bother.$19.99 offline Pokemon Go.
$19.99 offline Pokemon Go.
Since the thing has a projecting element, maybe there's a way for it to project the IR and/or some sort of signal out to detect presses and things if detached? Maybe even gesture recognition coupled with positioning? Kind of like:
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Hey, this mock up would work with this, I'd think
You'd only have to include 2 batteries instead of 3
When have patent illustrations ever been indicative of a final product?
I'll wait...
Hey, this mock up would work with this, I'd think
You'd only have to include 2 batteries instead of 3
The capability to read the movement of the parts using an infrared camera doesn't use any electronics.
But that doesn't mean the device that supports this capability can't also have basic internal electronics for disconnected use.
I think the #1 benefit of this application is actually that there doesn't need to be a direct circuit between the accessory and the portable that's exposed when not in use, and the accessories don't need to draw a lot of power while in use with the portable. Communication is handled through IR.
If these add-on controls really can work as separate controllers, it'll be really nice to only have to worry about them being charged during TV use and not on the go.
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The process performing unit may perform a different process depending on a type of the marker recognized.
Note that when a predetermined marker is recognized, the process performing unit may launch a predetermined application program with which the accessory can be used. If a predetermined marker stops being recognized while a predetermined application with which the accessory can be used is running on the information processing device, the process performing unit may halt the execution of the application program. If a predetermined marker is recognized, the process performing unit may perform a process of accessing a predetermined external device to obtain a predetermined application program with which the accessory can be used. If a predetermined marker is recognized, the process performing unit may perform a process of accessing an external device to obtain a predetermined web page, and displaying the web page on the display device of the information processing device.
They covered a case like that in a recent patent, it was like a stand to place it in with a mirror that changed the angle of the projection
Hey, this mock up would work with this, I'd think
You'd only have to include 2 batteries instead of 3
If the dock connects via IR, then Nintendo is on drugs and the dock definitely doesn't do anything important; not even HDMI passthrough.
If the controller already has electronics, then why bother with this? You could just actually connect them to the console and not have to worry about battery when on the go anyway.
This would also limit the controllers to very simple input. Not even an analog stick would work with this setup, let alone motion sensors or anything more fancy.
As responsive as a Circle Pad Pro accessory, which, judging from experience, was as good as a wired connection.How responsive would the buttons on this hypothetical infrared button system be?
What is this about a web page?! And turning applications on and off? I know application can mean "game," but boy howdy...
!!! You're right, they did! I forgot about that! It ties in really well!
The dock might just be a stand to keep the handheld in when it's projecting an image.
The TV connection might have been bogus after all. Maybe the current dev kits are simply using a connection to the tv to simulate the projector....and people made the wrong assumption.
So could we see the return of additional functionality controllers like the DS had?
old ball style mouses worked with a kinda similar tech. doesn't get more analog than a mouse
also, motion sensors can be inside the handheld
This console sounds like a nightmare for parents who have children.
But there's still the issue that the game would probably be well past its prime by the time the NX drops. Maybe the Gen 2 Pokémon could bring some hype back, but I'm not sure if that'll happen (the return of the hype). I'd be down for GO on the NX (my phone only has so much space), but I'm not sure if Niniac will even bother.
how so?
If we know one thing about nintendo and attachable dongles it's that they'll be used by one game and then ignored forever.
The GPS receiver 17 receives a signal from a GPS (Global Positioning System) satellite, and the portable device 1 can calculate the position of the portable device 1 itself by receiving the signal. For example, when a predetermined operation is performed at a particular position (e.g., a gesture input or a button input using the infrared camera 4, shaking the portable device 1, etc., to be described later), the portable device 1 may display an object associated with the particular position. For example, where a game is played on the portable device 1, and the portable device 1 is at a particular position, an object associated with the particular position may appear in the game.
The geomagnetic sensor 18 is a sensor capable of detecting the direction and the magnitude of a magnetic field. For example, based on the detection result of the geomagnetic sensor 18, the portable device 1 may determine whether it is facing a particular azimuthal direction, and the portable device 1 may display an object when a predetermined operation (e.g., a gesture input mentioned above) in a particular azimuthal direction. For example, where a game is played on the portable device 1, an object associated with a particular azimuthal direction may appear in the game. The portable device 1 may combine together GPS information obtained by the GPS receiver 17 and azimuthal direction information obtained by the geomagnetic sensor. For example, if the portable device 1 is at a particular position and is facing a particular azimuthal direction, the portable device 1 may display an object associated with the particular position and the particular azimuthal direction, or such an object may appear in the game.
I've got it all figured out dudes! This is the real deal. The little projector on the side is on the same section as the IR camera and distance detector and IR camera, it's not hard to imagine the projector shooting onto a mirror/reflective display in a right-side attachment to create a second small display on your attachment... attachments could take any form factor as long as they mechanically can provide reflective sensors for the camera to pick up.
I also don't think there's a base station anymore, I think the whole time the "unit" we were reading about was these little controller attachments and the processing thing was the actual NX.
Hand gesture control on the right side... two buttons on the front left and front right.
This is the Super Game and Watch.
It sounds like the system can recognize the games with which the attachment is applicable, and then if the attachment is removed it suspends the game. Some attachments can have markers which take you to a certain web page when connected, maybe giving instructions on how to use said attachment?
If the dock connects via IR, then Nintendo is on drugs and the dock definitely doesn't do anything important; not even HDMI passthrough.
The Sheikah Slate was always NX
That really depends on which IR Standard they use. Multi-Gigabit IR has been around for a while now.
Rösti;213266841 said:Another drawing I find quite interesting:
If the controller already has electronics, then why bother with this? You could just actually connect them to the console and not have to worry about battery when on the go anyway.
This would also limit the controllers to very simple input. Not even an analog stick would work with this setup, let alone motion sensors or anything more fancy.
We're going back to a gamecube handle now are we.
Didn't Nintendo recently say they wanted to make controllers for smartphones? Could this be related?
How would the motion sensors work when the console is in the dock and the controllers are detached? Would it only work in handheld mode?
Also, the way ball mouses worked wouldn't work with how this patent is described. This patent works by detecting the movement of some bit in reference to a position marker, I don't see how that would work for analog input.
You're going to have to be careful with the device.
Where does it mention a dock using IR? All I read are detachable controllers.If the dock connects via IR, then Nintendo is on drugs and the dock definitely doesn't do anything important; not even HDMI passthrough.
SNIP
The dock might just be a stand to keep the handheld in when it's projecting an image.
The TV connection might have been bogus after all. Maybe the current dev kits are simply using a connection to the tv to simulate the projector....and people made the wrong assumption.
But it certainly contradicts the notion that the parts turn into smaller multiplayer controllers.
Where does it mention a dock using IR? All I read are detachable controllers.
Well, either way we can definitively rule out GPU dock now.
Also, my controlled leak senses are tingling harder than ever before.
Note that the information processing device to which the operation device is attached is not limited to a device including a display section as in the embodiment above, but may be a controller device such as a game controller, for example. For example, the game controller may be a game controller for capturing an image of an outside marker by means of a camera, and the operation performed on the game controller (e.g., an operation of pointing at the screen, or an operation of moving the game controller) may be determined based on the captured image. An operation device such as that of the embodiment above may be attached to such a game controller, and the camera of the game controller may capture an image of the movable portion of the operation device. Then, it is possible to determine the operation performed on the operation section based on the captured image obtained by the camera. The operation device may be attached to an information processing system including a controller, and a main console device that can be attached/detached to/from the controller. For example, the operation device may be attached to a portable information processing device (which can also be said to be an information processing system) including a main console device and a controller. For example, the controller may include the image-capturing unit, and determine an operation performed on the operation section based on the captured image obtained by the image-capturing device. Then, the main console device may perform a predetermined process based on the determined operation.
I don't see why it wouldn't, if they engineer something (like a small protrusion mirroring the nub on the stick, or that just moves into the same position as the nub if they go with Circle Pads) onto the underside of the stick that the IR sensor can see and track. There'd be many more positions to record than just pressed/depressed, but I don't see why it couldn't be done.
Has he though about the fact we don't know how the device charges yet?He's insinuating that the "dock" will simply project the game to a TV via streaming.
Hmm, would it need software updates for new controllers then to know how to interpret the new controller layout?Pretty cool stuff! I think these modules could really do some cool things with controller shells and such!
I'm no designer, but I figure if (for the analog part) the could get the IR and/or camera to reflect underneath the stick, it would be easy. From the sounds of this, as soon as you attach a controller portion, the camera takes a "snapshot" of that exact point in time, you're "starting" zone which is the default for "nothing being moved or pressed." It then stores that information and makes all move determinations in the game based on what happens from then on relative to that snapshot. So, underneath an analog stick, it'd be easy to get that snapshot of it straight up (directly in the middle to the camera; kind of like calibrating a monitor). Then, if you move the stick right, it'll see the bottom of the stick move left and know you are heading right since it differs from the snapshot.
I really don't think it'd be tricky at all!