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Eteric Rice said:
The only thing that's pissing me off about the Wii isn't the draught. Hell, I expected a draught, it's post launch after all. But what really grinds my gears is the fact that these third party "ports" are being sold for $49.99 when the PS2 version is like $19.99.

What the ****?

'Drought'. You mean 'drought', not 'draught'.
 
YYZ said:
don't count on it. Nintendo is pretty good at making a profit while appealing to their fans. I don't know if it's their rabid fanboys or their own ingenuity. I'd have to say the Wii is their own ingenuity.

Also, Perrin Kaplin says the Wii has "state of the art technology" so you were totally owned there
not really, lol

How exactly is the Wii state of the art technology? Maybe by Nintendo's standard, but not by the progression of technology.

Look at this, but 10 years ago I was messing around with 800mhz processors and 3D wireless technology isn't exactly new(been around since the mid-90's e.g. defense contractors like Lockheed, BAE, etc have been using this stuff since then)

Right now only 1 console has the right to be called state of the art by the right terms, and that is the PS3. Practically every component in the PS3 way ahead of its time, but it being offered today..
 
I think this is only the beginning. Once DQ9 gets released on DS, it will send Japan into a DS frenzy (and they still sell like hotcakes there too). Then Super Mario Galaxy on Wii... yikes. They'll be sitting on a mountain of money. Kudos for smart products (even if Wii graphics do suck :) )
 
sugaki said:
I think this is only the beginning. Once DQ9 gets released on DS, it will send Japan into a DS frenzy (and they still sell like hotcakes there too). Then Super Mario Galaxy on Wii... yikes. They'll be sitting on a mountain of money. Kudos for smart products (even if Wii graphics do suck :) )

The last 18 months say "hi".
 
mj1108 said:
The last 18 months say "hi".

You don't know Draque frenzy until you see Draque frenzy. Imagine hordes or grannies and office girls fighting with otakus for limited supply of DS units at the same time.
 
Andrew2 said:
Right now only 1 console has the right to be called state of the art by the right terms, and that is the PS3. Practically every component in the PS3 way ahead of its time, but it being offered today..

No, no, no. Hate to tell you, but nothing is EVER up to date. When you bought the PS3, it was already out of date.

Anywho, Wii isn't cutting edge in terms of power, but probably more in terms of size. It's a very small system, hardly bigger than a DVD drive for a PC. Fitting the equivilant of an X-Box into something so small is pretty impressive.
 
Remember that Dragon Quest is the game series that the Japanese government doesn't want released on a week day. :)
 
Andrew2 said:
Look at this, but 10 years ago I was messing around with 800mhz processors and 3D wireless technology isn't exactly new(been around since the mid-90's e.g. defense contractors like Lockheed, BAE, etc have been using this stuff since then)

I guess you missed the "not really, lol" part of the post you were quoting. BTW, what processors were you using in 1997 that were running at 800MHz? Perhaps some super-secret CPU in a Lockheed or BAE black project? :lol

(Hint: the fastest (clock-speed) CPUs I can recall from that time period were DEC Alphas running at 500MHz. PIIs topped out at 300MHz and PPC 604s were running up to 350MHz.)
 
Eteric Rice said:
It's a very small system, hardly bigger than a DVD drive for a PC. Fitting the equivilant of an X-Box into something so small is pretty impressive.

True but the MOST impressive part is that they can repackage it without a hard drive and sell it for $100 more and that's why Nintendo makes $$$$$.

I'm a proud stock owner of all 3 console manufacturers. This industry is growing and there will be no losers. :)
 
Deku said:
You don't know Draque frenzy until you see Draque frenzy. Imagine hordes or grannies and office girls fighting with otakus for limited supply of DS units at the same time.
DQ VII release: August 26, 2000. PS1 sales that week according to Famitsu: 21K. PS2 sales that week: 49K, down from the previous week. Of course, that was at a time when PS1 had been made obsolete and PS2 was in short stock, so we could look at Dragon Quest VIII instead.

DQ VIII release: November 27, 2004. PS2 sales that week according to Famitsu: 120K. According to Media Create: 108K.

Draque frenzy shouldn't be a big thing for DS. DS has already pulled in bigger hardware numbers than past DQ launch weeks dozens of times in the last year alone. 229K were sold the week Final Fantasy III released.
 
Jocchan said:
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LOL just great :lol

Legendary PS :lol
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
DQ VII release: August 26, 2000. PS1 sales that week according to Famitsu: 21K. PS2 sales that week: 49K, down from the previous week. Of course, that was at a time when PS1 had been made obsolete and PS2 was in short stock, so we could look at Dragon Quest VIII instead.

DQ VIII release: November 27, 2004. PS2 sales that week according to Famitsu: 120K. According to Media Create: 108K.

Draque frenzy shouldn't be a big thing for DS. DS has already pulled in bigger hardware numbers than past DQ launch weeks dozens of times in the last year alone. 229K were sold the week Final Fantasy III released.


It's hard to compare however. DQ VIII is 4th year into PS2's lifecycle. DQVII was 5 years. Both platforms were very mature.

I don't think DS has reached the saturation point yet, if Nintendo is truly reaching new audiences, there has to be large pockets of potential users who don't own a DS yet.

Granted the DS is heavily supply constrained so either one of us could be right or wrong and it wouldn't matter if Nintendo caps their shipment at a certain amount.
 
Andrew2 said:
How exactly is the Wii state of the art technology? Maybe by Nintendo's standard, but not by the progression of technology.

Look at this, but 10 years ago I was messing around with 800mhz processors and 3D wireless technology isn't exactly new(been around since the mid-90's e.g. defense contractors like Lockheed, BAE, etc have been using this stuff since then)

Right now only 1 console has the right to be called state of the art by the right terms, and that is the PS3. Practically every component in the PS3 way ahead of its time, but it being offered today..

Don't worry scrote. There are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick ass lives. My first wife was 'tarded. She's a pilot now.

/idiocracy
 
:O Man, Nintendo going all out this time. It's crazy. And Pokemon isn't even out yet in America and Europe. And not to mention all those other high profile games that will be released.. this year.. :lol

They should buy out Sony, just for laughs.
 
Neomoto said:
:O Man, Nintendo going all out this time. It's crazy. And Pokemon isn't even out yet in America and Europe. And not to mention all those other high profile games that will be released.. this year.. :lol

They should buy out Sony, just for laughs.

Agreed, Nintendo is most definately not ****ing around this time.
 
Neomoto said:
:O Man, Nintendo going all out this time. It's crazy. And Pokemon isn't even out yet in America and Europe. And not to mention all those other high profile games that will be released.. this year.. :lol

High-profile? Mario Galaxy, Prime 3 (does that come this year?) and SSB:B (same question). That's all I'm counting.

The Wii brings very little to the table as far as I'm concerned. Nintendo must be doing something right judging by the sales, but I sure as hell don't get it.
 
Dina said:
High-profile? Mario Galaxy, Prime 3 (does that come this year?) and SSB:B (same question). That's all I'm counting.

The Wii brings very little to the table as far as I'm concerned. Nintendo must be doing something right judging by the sales, but I sure as hell don't get it.

Mario Party 8, probably at least one Wii ___ game, that Olympic game everyone seems to think will do well, Project Hammer or Disaster might hit too.

They've already hit up Wario Ware, and Wii Play high profile despite being ass. Plus Super Paper Mario, and Pokemon Battle Revolution, and Fire Emblem.

Not sure why you brought up Wii exclusively when he was talking about Pokemon... DS is getting Phantom Hourglass this year, not sure what else.
 
Dina said:
High-profile? Mario Galaxy, Prime 3 (does that come this year?) and SSB:B (same question). That's all I'm counting.

The Wii brings very little to the table as far as I'm concerned. Nintendo must be doing something right judging by the sales, but I sure as hell don't get it.
DQ IX, FFXII Revenant Wing, Zelda PH (I didn't say Wii only). And besides Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Super Smash Bros. Brawl you have and Wii Music and Wii Health (at least I thought those last 2 come out this year). And some games that are not quite as huge like Super Paper Mario, Pokemon Battle Revolution, Mario Party 8 and Mario and Sonic at the Olympics (and maybe some third party games like MySims and Harry Potter Wii). Not to mention we've known most of these games for a good while now, and Nintendo has more under their sleeves. Btw, what other company has more than Nintendo does 1st party wise (especially considering Wii is only out for a couple of months), since you seem to think that all this is very little? As in killer apps and system sellers?
 
Post launch drought. D:

Wii has it's titles coming, though. I suspect that stock trading thing forced them to keep some new things under wrap.

When's the next big show, anyway?
 
Neomoto said:
DQ IX, FFXII Revenant Wing, Zelda PH (I didn't say Wii only). And besides Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Super Smash Bros. Brawl you have and Wii Music and Wii Health (at least I thought those last 2 come out this year). And some games that are not quite as huge like Super Paper Mario, Pokemon Battle Revolution, Mario Party 8 and Mario and Sonic at the Olympics (and maybe some third party games like MySims and Harry Potter Wii). Not to mention we've known most of these games for a good while now, and Nintendo has more under their sleeves. Btw, what other company has more than Nintendo does 1st party wise (especially considering Wii is only out for a couple of months), since you seem to think that all this is very little? As in killer apps and system sellers?

That list looks a lot better, I'll give you that. Part of the reason I haven't kept up with new Wii games is because lack of interest in the beginning. I can add DQ IX to that list of the three I mentioned, but for the rest I'm still on the fence. Also do any of those games you mentioned get released before september? If not, that's still a very long period of drought, even for a console that's relatively new.

Also, for a console as innovative as the Wii, besides Mario and Sonic at the Olympics, there's not a whole lot of revolution there. A lot of sequels with a different control-scheme because they're being developed for the Wii. I know sequels are widespread no matter on which platform you game, but I was hoping the Wii would feature some more revolutionary titles by now.


And no I don't count NDS in the equation. Handhelds are a completely different thing when compared to 'real' consoles.
 
Dina said:
And no I don't count NDS in the equation. Handhelds are a completely different thing when compared to 'real' consoles.

He was talking about Pokemon in the post you quoted...

This is a topic about Nintendo's profitability, DS is obviously a major component of that.
 
AdmiralViscen said:
He was talking about Pokemon in the post you quoted...

This is a topic about Nintendo's profitability, DS is obviously a major component of that.

Yeah I know, on both accounts. I started with an off-topic post and it dragged on longer then it should have.

And it's not like I hate Nintendo (until this gen, I have only owned Nintendo consoles). I applaud them for trying something so different with the Wii, but right now the games hardly do the controller justice, which is kind of sad.

Anyway, let's go back to the issue at hand. /rant
 
Dina said:
And no I don't count NDS in the equation. Handhelds are a completely different thing when compared to 'real' consoles.

The DS and the Wii represent the same philosophy. Cheaper, less advanced hardware; simple, intuitive controls; and smaller games that are easy for anyone to pick up and play. Both are doing phenomenally worldwide.

The PSP and PS3 represent the same philosophy. Expensive, very advanced hardware; large-scale and beautiful, epic games; and extended multi-media functions. Both are lagging behind.



At what point will we admit to ourselves that perhaps console and handheld gaming aren't as diametrically opposed as everyone assumes, and that maybe the DS and PSP were simply harbingers of the performance of next-gen consoles?
 
dyls said:
The DS and the Wii represent the same philosophy. Cheaper, less advanced hardware; simple, intuitive controls; and smaller games that are easy for anyone to pick up and play. Both are doing phenomenally worldwide.

The PSP and PS3 represent the same philosophy. Expensive, very advanced hardware; large-scale and beautiful, epic games; and extended multi-media functions. Both are lagging behind.

That's the underlying philosophy at the outset. But I think as the DS moves to leadership a new reality is emerging. The DS marketshare has certainly shifted a lot of projects, including epic games, away from other platforms towards the DS.
 
Dina said:
That list looks a lot better, I'll give you that. Part of the reason I haven't kept up with new Wii games is because lack of interest in the beginning. I can add DQ IX to that list of the three I mentioned, but for the rest I'm still on the fence. Also do any of those games you mentioned get released before september? If not, that's still a very long period of drought, even for a console that's relatively new.
Still on the fence as in 'I, personally, don't know if the games appeal to me' or as in that they arn't great sellers, killer apps or system sellers? ;) Btw, I noticed you said you've only had Nintendo systems before this gen, but one post back (the one I quoted) you say that you haven't kept up with Wii games because lack of interest? Why? It still is a Nintendo console with Nintendo games. Oh well, maybe it'll be to much off-topic so forget I asked hehe.

As for when they'll all be released: We only have an exact release date of Super Paper Mario (in a week or so in the US), Pokemon Battle Revolution and Mario Party 8 (and of course some other games like Batallion Wars II, Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree and Mario Strikers Charged) because that's all Q2 releases that Nintendo have confirmed with release dates. The rest is still pretty much up in the air when they'll be released this year (including the rest of this years line-up that I didn't listed). Except for Mario and Sonic at the Olympics since that one is a confirmed 'Holiday' title (in both Japan and US iirc).

Deku said:
That's the underlying philosophy at the outset. But I think as the DS moves to leadership a new reality is emerging. The DS marketshare has certainly shifted a lot of projects, including epic games, away from other platforms towards the DS.
I think it's because of not only the new found market and such, but also because of the capabilitys of today's handhelds. All of the sudden we have two machines that can do good 3d graphics (psp obviously better but that's another story), wireless functions, multi-media functions, larger media for games, online gaming. It's amazing when compared to what "little" last-gen (GBA) offered. I think that handheld gaming will evolve even more and will become more and more inportant in the gameindustry (at the very least equally inportant as home console gaming).
 
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