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Nintendo Switch paid online coming 2018 ($19.99 a year, Dr Mario w/ online play)
- Thread starter jmizzal
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Dr. Mario: Miracle Cure should also still work.
And, you know, playing online.
yes yes yes!
Charles Brandon
Member
I wouldn't get too excited about online enabled NES games
Delayed until 2018, $20/year, and the online-enabled retro games are playable as long as you're subscribed after all?
but I don't understand! Star Wars taught me this deal is only supposed to get worse and worse!
[EDIT] The "retro games are playable as long as you're subscribed" part should definitely be added to the thread title. Nintendo rarely listens, so this is nice for a change.
but I don't understand! Star Wars taught me this deal is only supposed to get worse and worse!
[EDIT] The "retro games are playable as long as you're subscribed" part should definitely be added to the thread title. Nintendo rarely listens, so this is nice for a change.
GregLombardi
Member
Why not? I mean, I can understand some not getting excited. But those games are the beginning of my gamerhood. I can't believe I will be possibly playing online balloon fight, a niche title that I thought I was the only one to ever try, originally.
It's actually kind of crazy.
We don't know that yet. It could well be that access to the games is removed if the games are removed from the library, even if you continue to have an active subscription.
I guess a lot of people got their fair share of NES games with the NES Classic (at least if the managed to get one) and realised that the games don't hold up quite as well as hoped. I mean, who is excited for online Balloon Fight? Or SMB3 where users need to take turns? It's still great they added online functionality, but I personally don't see these NES games as added value. I already have the ones I was looking forward through the NES Classic, which was a one-time investment.
Linkstrikesback
Member
By this point I'm sure you've been called out on this more than once, but In a word, Bollocks.
The online play come2018 will be exactly the same as it is now, and if you believe otherwise, to quote you, you are "insane". Nintendo isn't going to massively revamp two of its three existing big pillars of online play that they're releasing in 2017 (kart and splatoon), plus the new game in ARMS.
Joelstinton14
Member
Considering the success of the NES mini, i think there is actually an appetite for that sort of stuff. Can understand why it doesn't float everyones boat, but it does others.
Pretty sure Nintendo will let you give them your money.
Seems a reasonable enough pitch to me at £15 or whatever per year for online play. All the bells and whistles on PS+ like cloud saves and downloadable games have never mattered that much to me, and nor do online NES games either for that matter. Plenty of time for them to refine it.
Sakura
Member
Yea. Though with Nintendo I could see it starting with like, those three games. And then adding a handful more every now and again.
Would you not rather pay £20 (because face it that's what it'll be in the UK) and access all the games rather than paying £20 and getting like 5 games?
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Delay it even more. 20 euros for that kind of service is still fucking crap. If they added more value it would be a good proposition, the problem is the phone being half of the os.
Dena and nintendo can go and fuck themselves. They need to change i alot if they want me to start paying.
Ive played nes games to many times now, its good they actually let you keep them, but i would prefer it its more types of vc games and more than a handful a year.
Dena and nintendo can go and fuck themselves. They need to change i alot if they want me to start paying.
Ive played nes games to many times now, its good they actually let you keep them, but i would prefer it its more types of vc games and more than a handful a year.
Prisoner KSC2-303
Member
I'm sure there's an appetite for NES games from some, but I think the NES mini sold as much based on the novelty factor as it did on genuine appreciation for the included games. I'd be wary of using that as a barometer of the games' appeal.
It really is. One game from each of those formats would have been much better than the usual tedious drip feed they usually do. I've got a NES MINI so don't really care about NES games at this point unless they add online to Tecmo Bowl or something.
Charles Brandon
Member
It's interesting but I just don't think playing online Balloon Fight or co-op Double Dragon 2 or Life Force is going to be an amazing experience. Don't get me wrong, there will be fun to be had playing through these games with a friend (...voice chat?) I guess but only when co-op is available, only when you have a friend who wants to play x game with you and even then it's not going to be as fun as doing it together in the same room.
I think it's a nice option but I don't see online NES as being a big deal.
SliceSabre
Banned
I don't think this service adds enough value with just NES games.
PS+ is sure more expensive but the games you're getting are from this gen and last gen and the discounts are probably better than whatever discounts Nintendo is going to be offering. The PS+ discounts I've gotten over the past year made the subscription pay for itself not to mention I've seen what Nintendo considers e-shop discounts and they are laughable compared to PS+/XBL and Steam discounts.
PS+ is sure more expensive but the games you're getting are from this gen and last gen and the discounts are probably better than whatever discounts Nintendo is going to be offering. The PS+ discounts I've gotten over the past year made the subscription pay for itself not to mention I've seen what Nintendo considers e-shop discounts and they are laughable compared to PS+/XBL and Steam discounts.
It's not the full library, and I wouldn't expect anything else than Nintendo games for now lol
Multiplayer Joust is awesome, I assumed multiplayer Balloon Fight would be in the same bracket. Is it not?
Classic Game Selection doesn't make it sound like it's the full library of NES games.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Basically Nintendo's asking its users to donate $20 yearly to them, because they're not offering anything. No effort went into this on their end which is why they priced it so low. They know at that price people will just shrug and pay it to keep playing their games online. It's "Online" gaming on the worst wifi of any device since God knows when. So when it's shit, you'll just say oh well, it's only $20 per year.
There's these things, they're called "software patches". How they work is that they take an existing piece of software and replace existing code and "patch in" a replacement code.
And I can guarantee that their existing games will get such software patches to conform to Nintendo's online services as they're rolled out.
We live in an amazing era, don't we?
Tell me the stock prices for the day you're currently situated in, future man.
Besides, you forgot subscriber-only eShop discounts. Which is an online function from the Switch. But I won't split hairs, you're doing just fine at that.
It's hilarious that you think friend codes will survive the entire generation and be the only option to find friends online.
It has a direct relation. If Vita had been a success, you bet your ass Sony would have killed free online on Vita when PS Plus was announced. But they had to sell the thing desperately somehow, so it was left alone, because they weren't likely to collect much money from the pittance of people who bought it, anyways. They were incentivizing a dying platform with a really low amount of online players. That plays a big factor.
Beside the fact that some of their online service will be free before the paywall goes up.
Yeah, and that died on the vine.
I don't have one. You'll have to ask people paying $50 a year for something that's not on par with PC offerings and why they blithely accepted it for generations. I don't have the answer. I want these things to be free, too, with the features that can be expected. But I'm not so naive as to think they can be anymore, because it's been allowed, accepted and, in some cases, championed elsewhere. I only really hoped we wouldn't have to pay the same $50 a year, even if it meant fewer bells and whistles, because paying something was expected.
Also, considering none of these Switch online services currently exist for us to sample, how are they not on par? It's not like we can compare them. I don't know what I'm getting for what I pay for, I'm going to find out like everyone else.
Ignoring the realities of the console hardware market is partly why Wii U sold like garbage and partly why 3DS underperformed, so they got what they deserved, in that regard.
But with Switch, they're starting to accept certain market realities; they reworked their whole approach to hardware because of it. This just happens to be another.
jts
...hate me...
I play on ethernet 80% of the time, but when I undock it and play on wifi I never noticed any difference.
Joelstinton14
Member
That is also true. Personally, i'm all for it, i haven't brought any digital games from Nintendo before the switch due to the lack of account based system, so for me at least it is a chance to revisit classics i haven't played in 20 years.
Just a reminder that 2018 is also the Year of Luigi again (35th anniversary) so everyone should buy Dr Luigi or other Luigi related games in preparation for the greatest celebration of every half decade!
Experimenter
Member
Yeah, bad wording, got me there. I meant great pricing.
maniac-kun
Member
But you only get NES games? Why dont they announce their plan for Virtual Console?
What would these software patches add though? Just support for the app?
As a long-time Nintendo user, I can tell you that those discounts will be laughable. You are better off buying those games at retail. You'll see once the service starts, or you could just look at the sad state of My Nintendo.
Why wouldn't friend codes survive the entire generation? They've been introduced in 2005 and are here to stay. Why would they suddenly remove them after 12 years?
We know what the Switch online services will offer (voice chat, game making, and setting play appointments - all via an app; access to a selection of NES games; eShop discounts). We also already know the limitations of the voice chat feature (need for a newer Android or iOS device, separate adapter and more cables needed to have both in-game audio and voice audio on your headset).
To be fair, PS+ and XBL also have quite a bit more to offer.
Charles Brandon
Member
I'm not looking forward to years and years of more dripfeeding old games.
Discotheque
Banned
all the features requiring a smartphone app is still hilarious
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Shotgun Kiss
Member
SMB3, Balloon Fight, and Dr. Mario.
Really, Nintendo? Those are the three best examples you have to tout as having online? More fucking NES stuff?
How about giving us some N64 and Gamecube games with online? Or hell, even without online would be a start.
This slow trickle of releasing their old library of games was bad enough when their online service was free, but if they're going to charge for it, they need to seriously up their game. The XBox 360 was doing a better job with it's XBLA ten years ago.
Really, Nintendo? Those are the three best examples you have to tout as having online? More fucking NES stuff?
How about giving us some N64 and Gamecube games with online? Or hell, even without online would be a start.
This slow trickle of releasing their old library of games was bad enough when their online service was free, but if they're going to charge for it, they need to seriously up their game. The XBox 360 was doing a better job with it's XBLA ten years ago.
Experimenter
Member
Too soon? IDK, but I'd expect the rest of the VC content to be sold individually outside of the online services fee.
You can probably buy them in the future (without online play), for 10-15 EUR each.
I bet that they will only give 5 to 10 nes games a month.
Its Nintendo. They dont know how to use online or make businnes online. Microsoft and sony are much more prepared for online gaming and sales.
I'm a Nintendo fan, but this online dreaming has set sail a long time a go. Kyoto is incompetent...
Its Nintendo. They dont know how to use online or make businnes online. Microsoft and sony are much more prepared for online gaming and sales.
I'm a Nintendo fan, but this online dreaming has set sail a long time a go. Kyoto is incompetent...