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Nintendo TVii Announced (System seller?)

Can someone just release a fucking game console and nothing else? I don't want any of this other shit. It's bad enough with the 360 (which I'm not buying the new xbox because its basically a fucking media box now instead of, you know, a fucking game console).

If all consoles are going this route (which it seems like), I'm not getting any of them. I just hope when the Steam box comes out, that'll just be that, a machine that just plays games, nothing else.
 
This definitely IS a system seller to those who watch television programming a lot. For strictly gamers, it'll be a bonus.

Integrated programming services into one device that allows for chatting and additional information along with the ability to switch out and play a game is so useful and free, it's ridiculous. Excellent demo and should catch a lot of mainstream attention.

GAF will obviously undervalue it much like they did with Netflix on Wii.
 
Kunohara said:
Can someone just release a fucking game console and nothing else? I don't want any of this other shit. It's bad enough with the 360 (which I'm not buying the new xbox because its basically a fucking media box now instead of, you know, a fucking game console).

If all consoles are going this route (which it seems like), I'm not getting any of them. I just hope when the Steam box comes out, that'll just be that, a machine that just plays games, nothing else.
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It's free. Calm down.

Double post, :\
 
Gummb said:
This definitely IS a system seller to those who watch television programming a lot. For strictly gamers, it'll be a bonus.

Integrated programming services into one device that allows for chatting and additional information along with the ability to switch out and play a game is so useful and free, it's ridiculous. Excellent demo and should catch a lot of mainstream attention.

GAF will obviously undervalue it much like they did with Netflix on Wii.
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Exactly. This is insanely useful to me. Has the Netflix and/or Hulu+ been announced for the Wii U? If so, this is a system seller in itself.
 
Gummb said:
This definitely IS a system seller to those who watch television programming a lot. For strictly gamers, it'll be a bonus.

Integrated programming services into one device that allows for chatting and additional information along with the ability to switch out and play a game is so useful and free, it's ridiculous. Excellent demo and should catch a lot of mainstream attention.

GAF will obviously undervalue it much like they did with Netflix on Wii.
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It's very Apple, an integrated solution.

Very neat and it will definitely go down well.
 
A lot of people seem to be missing the point here. The whole appeal of the feature is that it's a single unified interface for all your streaming, DVR and live TV services, in a convenient and easy to use manner. Now you may prefer your iPad app with AppleTV streaming for ABC, your Boxee box for Netflix and your standard TV interface for your DVR, and that's fine, but I hate to break it to you that you're not in the majority. People want convenient and easy to use services, and this seems far more convenient and at least as easy to use as anything else out there. Going from having to check three or four different places to see what's available to watch to checking just one is going to be a big deal to a lot of people, even if it isn't to you.
 
My concern is the TiVo logo everywhere. I don't use tivo. Hopefully they talk with AT&T and work something out to use their Uverse box in conjunction with the Gamepad.
 
This is pretty badass (assuming it works with Dish), and I look froward to possibly eliminating the my two remote system (TV and Satellite) completely.
 
Yes it's absolutely a system seller. Anyone worth a damn knows that the idea of a "second screen", and how content providers can promote a transmedia experience is the buzz in all board rooms right now. As well how to centralize and control all this various content, specifically as things continue to go online.
 
Thraktor said:
A lot of people seem to be missing the point here. The whole appeal of the feature is that it's a single unified interface for all your streaming, DVR and live TV services, in a convenient and easy to use manner. Now you may prefer your iPad app with AppleTV streaming for ABC, your Boxee box for Netflix and your standard TV interface for your DVR, and that's fine, but I hate to break it to you that you're not in the majority. People want convenient and easy to use services, and this seems far more convenient and at least as easy to use as anything else out there. Going from having to check three or four different places to see what's available to watch to checking just one is going to be a big deal to a lot of people, even if it isn't to you.
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Bingo.
 
So let me get one thing straight here. The Wii U is also a TiVo? And how will this work with my FiOS DVR and television?
 
This sounds pretty damn cool and I think it's going to be a big success. The idea of interacting with other fans during a show is super cool and being able to access data about a show via wikipedia or sports game is also really compelling. Microsoft talked about this at E3 with their smart glass concept, but that was just a concept and it's probably vapourware. Another reason why I think this will be successful is that tablets are still pretty expensive and so this is going to be very accessible for a lot of people.

I could see this being a bit like the Wii's HD situation, where in a few years when HD was ubiquitous the Wii looked very old fashioned. In this case, I could see this being very popular for a while, but then being abandoned once tablets become commoditized and everyone has one.
 
Can you watch tv on the controller while you play a game on the TV? Because that's pretty much how I play games right now. I have my iPad in front of me while I play on the TV.
 
thetrin said:
Can you watch tv on the controller while you play a game on the TV? Because that's pretty much how I play games right now. I have my iPad in front of me while I play on the TV.
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It for sure seems to work the other way around, but I've seen nothing that says it can do that. In theory it seems that it would be possible though.
 
No. However ,what it may symbolize is Nintendo taking network functionality more seriously, which is something I care about.

This is not, in itself, proof of that, however.
 
Really cool, but I don't think someone would buy the console just because of the TV features. IMHO, it was a smart move adding those capabilities to the WiiU.
 
I guess people missed it, but Nintendo TVii is basically a re-purposing (with new features) of an app from the company Nintendo partnered with, i.TV

http://i.tv/

I'm not sure if i.TV has all the realtime sports or other types of features, has anybody used this app?


Old or new though, I did think this was a another cool tool for Wii U. I really liked what Reggie said, that Wii U would make TV watching manageable again. I hate my current box and the boxes of all my friends and relatives (Comcast, uVerse) because all the goddamned forced channels and crap like that, TV is only convenient now for power users and is annoying for old-school flip-flip-flip people. Something relatively simple like what TVii is offering, with big graphics and easy-to-access search and second-screen viewing instead of interrupting the TV, I think maybe that will really be a convenience to some of these older folks who are cursing out their cable provider's sad-sack solutions. (That is, if they can convince their grandchildren to come hook the whole thing up...)
 
I wouldn't underestimate this feature. It could well be the biggest selling point for your average consumer.

I'm already heavily using iPad + AppleTV for my living room, but this looks in some ways to be an even better integration (remote capabilities in particular; I hate switching between the iPad and some corny TV remote for volume etc while browsing) and might particularly appeal to those who are still using multiple boxes for these functions, or who only watch Netflix on Wii and are ready for an upgrade.
 
I was watching the event and a little disappointed when DVR was mentioned, and then Tivo was shown. I guess its a bit much to expect them to have any integration with the various cable providers out there who offer their own DVRs so I'm letting that go.

I am pretty happy with the look of the remote control. For instance the outer ring with all of the network logos on it. I'll also definitely use it to save all of my favorite channels. The favorites lists for both FiOS and Comcast are clunky enough that I just don't bother with them.

I really like the thought of not needing my TV and DVR remotes out anymore, also. I'm imagining the the initial setup being a little tricky though.

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GodDuckman said:
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/09/13/nintendo-tvii-supported-by-all-major-us-canadian-cable-and-di/

Huh, I guess my earlier complaining about Time Warner DVRs not being supported was moot :)
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Oh! Interesting. Come to think of it. Comcast does have a web interface that allows me to access my DVR, perhaps that's not as big a stretch as I thought.
 
That's cool that they are using this as a standard universal remote replacement. It's a good idea to leverage their touch screen by integrating a cheap IR output into the controller itself. I'd rather use this tablet than the cheap $20 universal remote at my local drug store, but I don't think this is a Logitech Harmony replacement. The speed of the interface is a little troubling though.
 
Chuckpebble said:
I was watching the event and a little disappointed when DVR was mentioned, and then Tivo was shown. I guess its a bit much to expect them to have any integration with the various cable providers out there who offer their own DVRs so I'm letting that go.

I am pretty happy with the look of the remote control. For instance the outer ring with all of the network logos on it. I'll also definitely use it to save all of my favorite channels. The favorites lists for both FiOS and Comcast are clunky enough that I just don't bother with them.

I really like the thought of not needing my TV and DVR remotes out anymore, also. I'm imagining the the initial setup being a little tricky though.
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check the post 3 post above you, it works with all major cable companies
 
I agree... this feature is the system seller for the casual market.

a unified interface for entertainment that allows you to hook into all major providers, social networks, etc.

and all your Wii titles still work with the Wii U.


people will upgrade to the Wii U.
 
jmizzal said:
check the post 3 post above you, it works with all major cable companies
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Yeah, I took a long time to post that, but I saw it. This also alleviates my other fear, calibrating the IR to your stuff. If they have all of their support, I imagine selecting your equipment from a list and being set up with ease.

OK, killer app.
 
KingJ2002 said:
I agree... this feature is the system seller for the casual market.

a unified interface for entertainment that allows you to hook into all major providers, social networks, etc.

and all your Wii titles still work with the Wii U.


people will upgrade to the Wii U.
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I'm not big on the video game console as media center, mostly because the Xbox and PS3 have been so clunky. But this, I feel, I'd get use out of right out of the box.

Is the Tivo name just a representation of DVR? Or do you have to have the Tivo service?

*Edit - just saw my answer a few posts up.
 
Hey guys that are asking about it just being in the US, its in Canada too

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Weren't there some numbers that showed a huge number of Wii owners used the system for streaming video?

If Netflix et all are big among the original Wii audience, it would make sense to push this angle of Wii U as a major feature.

And FYI, more and more people are using these streaming services on consoles. They aren't just curiosities. Around here, we use Netflix and Amazon constantly on the PS3 and 360, and get annoyed at switching back and forth between one console or the other due to the clients differing on each side.

Having an improved integrated service for all streaming television, with the ability to watch it on the screen pad whenever one feels like it, is kind of big.

And here's something else too. The console has all that ram reserved for system resources and the OS... I wonder if normal games can be played on the TV while someone is using Nintendo TV on the game pad (using the Pro controller or another padlet). If so, that would be kind of huge right there... the streaming media box allows simultaneous gameplay and streaming TV usage.
 
Yes it definitely helps to sell the system.

It's awesome that you can search for a show and then all the different options appear for you to choose how to watch it. No more searching through Amazon, Youtube and Netflix just to see if they have your movie/show. This is a godsend :)
 
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