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Nintendo's 3DS Virtual Console is a terrible failure

Denpa Men is awesome and last week?

Pretty sure I bought something two weeks ago as well but I can't remember what it was.
Fractured Soul maybe? Crosswords and Art Academy came out today (retail DD) so it's not too bad.

But we're still far behind with VC compared to Japan obviously.
 
i just remembered the complete version of F-Zero X never made it to the VC.
that makes VC shit instantly.

at this point all i want is the ability to move my Wii VC purchases to Wii U as soon as possible to get rid of the old console (i ain't got space for too much junk laying around and my N64 will never be put away due to F-Zero X + Expansion Kit)

has it been confirmed if Wii->Wii U transfers will be doable on day 1?
 
Denpa Men is awesome and last week?

Pretty sure I bought something two weeks ago as well but I can't remember what it was.
I never saw that game in the last two updates, just some crappy (puzzle? I think) game. There was literally 1 or 2 things added :/
 
Its pretty ridiculous. There is no reason why the entire NES, and SNes library shouldn't be available already.
Even putting aside the staggered release strategy: licensing? Third parties either willing to do it or EXISTING to do it at all? Copyright BS that's either been found out or is now an issue around 20 years later? Needing to make all the manuals (the scanning approach of PSN and GOG admittedly would've been best and more fitting for nostalgia)? There's a lot of reasons being ignored here that would be problematic for official releases.
 
Yep, huge failure. As I've said before Nintendo could end up looking at a lot of customers they'll have difficulty reaching due to them being locked into another ecosystem. All because they were too slow and didn't get it.

They have no one to blame but themselves.
 
I just want there to be a steady stream of good VC games for all regions, like in Japan. JP gets 1-3 weekly VC games of considerable quality, white other regions are lucky to get a mediocre GB game every other week. Why can't it be the same level of quality everywhere?!

Japan is getting Mario Golf GBC (and Dig Dug NES) this week and is about 35 titles ahead of everywhere else. What the hell is NoA (and NoE to a lesser extent) doing?!?

NoA is really the problem. Between download games and retail games NoA is just not providing everything Japan has and it really sucks.

I wish for new management of NoA or really just let it be exactly like Japan. Would make everything better. Imagine if we had Monster Hunter Tri G already and Dragon Quest X at launch for Wii U.
 
Oh god... how much drama -_- failure... really??? Anyways, I miss pokemon games, is a nobrainer fact to me that people would buy it AGAIN, and it would probably move some 3DS's. Also, why in the world aren't they selling DS games on the eshop? Srsly.
 
I think the situation would dramatically improve if the currency exchange were roughly equal, and if more people were buying games period right now. The economic troubles are really wearing everything down, and some things (currency rate) came up afterwards and made it worse.
 
Ambassadors really got a great deal with those ten GBA games. Yoshi's Island always in my 3DS, oh yeah.

I could have bought a 3DS at launch and been an Ambassador, but I opted for the Pokemon Black DSi Bundle and bought a 3DS XL at launch.

I have no regrets.

Also, am I the only one hoping that the Wii U passport thing entitles people who have NES games on VC to get them on 3DS at no charge or, at least, a discount?

I own every NES game on Wii VC that's offered on the 3DS VC. I would like to play those games on my 3DS, but not enough to pay $5. $1 or 2 would be acceptable, but free would be best.
 
Even putting aside the staggered release strategy: licensing? Third parties either willing to do it or EXISTING to do it at all? Copyright BS that's either been found out or is now an issue around 20 years later? Needing to make all the manuals (the scanning approach of PSN and GOG admittedly would've been best and more fitting for nostalgia)? There's a lot of reasons being ignored here that would be problematic for official releases.

They've already been through all of this with the Wii's VC, and it wasn't a huge issue there. Some games, like Ducktales, will never make it, and that's a shame. Getting the games rated by groups like the ESRB costs a chunk of change, but that's it. You can see how manuals are done already. And really, as many have pointed out, the Western libraries are lagging far behind the Japanese VC, so it's clearly just a case of neglect.
 
They've already been through all of this with the Wii's VC, and it wasn't a huge issue there. Some games, like Ducktales, will never make it, and that's a shame. Getting the games rated by groups like the ESRB costs a chunk of change, but that's it. You can see how manuals are done already. And really, as many have pointed out, the Western libraries are lagging far behind the Japanese VC, so it's clearly just a case of neglect.
Oh, I meant a "dump everything on" approach, assuming this wasn't just about at this point in the Wii's lifetime, though I would've appreciated everything reasonably possible to put on to be there now, but that's blame shared with third parties with no interest to get some of that stuff one. Still, for the 3DS VC if they plan to put that on an account system I'm actually kind of happy they're dragging this out, maybe then they can go and just allow us to play the games we DO own once the accounts are in and the stuff's transferred from Wii to Wii U.
 
It's fine with me, honestly. One amazing classic every few weeks is already more than I can keep up with (already have a VC backlog at this point), and some of these GB games are the finest work from the company (DK'94, Wario Land, Link's Awakening - all at the peak of respective genres).

You'll never see Nintendo bulk-dump their archive onto any service; I can't imagine how anyone was expecting more than a "retro classic of the month + miscellaneous curiosities" VC.
 
Economy is screwing retail over pretty hard which is why things feels like a throw Mario at it and wait situation at Nintendo of America. Doesn't help that NCL "knows best".

In regards to the VC, I wonder if the defenders even own or bother to pay attention to eShop releases. Regardless of what original titles have been released (which this topic isn't about), VC is greatly lacking, and was even worse than Wii VC from the getgo. There was never a week without VC titles on the Wii for a few years, compared to almost immediately in this case, and the eShop wasn't even at launch.

Luckily, Cave Story is released this week, and I can snag Denpa Men as well (not biting on Crosswords or Art Academy because the price is ridiculous), but if it wasn't for them, I would just skip yet another week. It's baffling that I've reached this point so soon. It's frustrating that I want to give them my money but they won't let me.

The Game Gear situation is also nuts. Promised at launch, gets delayed till the end of August of 2011, gets delayed till.... March or something. No Game Gear titles since, despite the tease of two awful Sonic GG games from 8 bit Summer (which aren't even out yet). It seems to me that even a schedule isn't fully locked in place here.

This topic would've fared better if it specificially mentioned NA in the topic though.
 
Makes me miss the ToastyFrog x Kobun Heat glory days of Retronauts.

Remember when we'd be like, "This week kind of sucks because only three of the five games Nintendo released are total classics"?

Ha ha ha.

Well, I'm off to punch Nintendo in the face for a while.
 
Cannot agree more.

I have $10 sitting on my acct. that I would love to put towards an awesome RPG or SNES game or something, but the VC selection is woefully barren.
 
Remember when we'd be like, "This week kind of sucks because only three of the five games Nintendo released are total classics"?

Ha ha ha.

Well, I'm off to punch Nintendo in the face for a while.

What is your sense of Bill Trinen and Reggie's stance on virtual console? Are they aware of the issue?

I don't think Nintendo needs to dump their entire library at once, but the current offering is abysmal.
 
It is a freaking disaster.

The eshop should be a crossplatform and unified service. With freaking user accounts.

When u buy a song on itunes you can listen to it on ur phone, on your ipod, and on your computer.

Of course with games some are not going to be compatible everywhere and that is fine.

Nintendo doesn't have a clue.

I will not invest in Nintendo hardware until this is fixed.
 
It is a freaking disaster.

The eshop should be a crossplatform and unified service. With freaking user accounts.

When u buy a song on itunes you can listen to it on ur phone, on your ipod, and on your computer.

Of course with games some are not going to be compatible everywhere and that is fine.

Nintendo doesn't have a clue.

I will not invest in Nintendo hardware until this is fixed.

You don't even have to compare to Apple. You can play PS1 stuff on PS3/Vita/PSP and only buy it once. Nintendo are inept.
 
Well, yeah, I'm willing to buy tons of GB games that are just not available. Not even impossible stuff that will obviously never make it to the eShop, but I'd love having Lode Runner, for example. That being said, I've bought plenty of VC games and enjoyed them a lot. I've tried stuff I missed back in the day like Avenging Spirit or Catrap, so it's not all bad.
 
Nobody fills out Nintendo Club surveys? I ask every time for GBA, SNES, and N64 games on the eshop.

That said, I have a Japanese 3DS so I have nothing to complain about. In fact, I have so many games I don't think I've passed any yet. Doesn't mean I don't want more...
 
I think the situation would dramatically improve if the currency exchange were roughly equal, and if more people were buying games period right now. The economic troubles are really wearing everything down, and some things (currency rate) came up afterwards and made it worse.

Yeah, Nintendo's definitely majorly focused on Japan right now. NoA's objective is basically to tread water. Such a shame.
 
Does someone have a list of all the VC games JP/EU have that NA doesn't? I'm sure it's disgustingly long.

Only regarding stuff that hit NA originally:
GB:
Castlevania: The Adventure E/J
Dr. Mario E/J
Kirby's Dream Land 2 E/J
Kirby's Star Stacker E/J
Nintendo World Cup (Japan has the original Kunio version though, not this exact one)
The Sword of Hope J (all regions have 2 though)

GBC:
Mario Golf J
Revelations: The Demon Slayer J
Wario Land II E/J
Wario Land 3 J

GG:
Columns J
Defenders of Oasis J
G-Loc Air Battle J
Sonic Blast E/J
Sonic Labyrinth E/J
Vampire: Master of Darkness J

NES:
Blaster Master J
Dig Dug J
Mega Man J
Mega Man 2 J
Mega Man 3 J
Mighty Bomb Jack J
Ninja Gaiden J
Princess Tomato in the Salad Kingdom J
Super Mario Bros. 2 (aka Lost Levels) J
 
That said, I have a Japanese 3DS so I have nothing to complain about. In fact, I have so many games I don't think I've passed any yet. Doesn't mean I don't want more...

Stop rubbing it in!
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Only regarding stuff that hit NA originally:
GB:
Castlevania: The Adventure E/J
Dr. Mario E/J
Kirby's Dream Land 2 E/J
Kirby's Star Stacker E/J

Nintendo World Cup (Japan has the original Kunio version though, not this exact one)
The Sword of Hope J (all regions have 2 though)


GBC:
Mario Golf J
Revelations: The Demon Slayer J
Wario Land II E/J
Wario Land 3 J

GG (not very familiar w/ most of these):
Columns J
Defenders of Oasis J
G-Loc Air Battle J
Sonic Blast E/J
Sonic Labyrinth E/J
Vampire: Master of Darkness J

NES:
Blaster Master J
Dig Dug J
Mega Man J
Mega Man 2 J
Mega Man 3 J

Mighty Bomb Jack J
Ninja Gaiden J
Princess Tomato in the Salad Kingdom J
Super Mario Bros. 2 (aka Lost Levels) J

I would buy all of these.

What the hell are you doing NoA.
 
I too want to know the reasoning behind this. Even counting only Nintendo developed or published games, they're still sitting on like 20 years of content.
 
Nintendo has already released some of its top GameBoy titles. They need to spread them out, which I understand. However its 3rd parties that haven't done much with the 3DS VC. They really need to start giving Nintendo some titles to release.
 
I have stopped bothering to check the e-shop at all anymore, it is fucking terrible. The interface is shit, the selection of games is shit, and the prices of the meager selection of games are shitty and overpriced.

It's is unfathomable to me that Nintendo is sitting on so many classic games and they just don't live up to their potential.

Wasted opportunity.
 
Why do they have to continually release games for it? Why not have everything on it ready for purchase right now? Odds of me purchasing a game now are far greater than in x number of years when I might not have a 3DS.

Because a slow drip of titles probably nets them more total game sales than if they just released huge chunks at once. Obscure titles are more in the forefront when they are not buried underneath an avalanche of well known titles.
 
You don't even have to compare to Apple. You can play PS1 stuff on PS3/Vita/PSP and only buy it once. Nintendo are inept.

yeah. I was just throwing apple out there because they are what consumers expect nowadays regarding digital content.

The inability to adapt to a world where online services are key is the biggest issue with nintendo right now by far.
 
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