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Nioh Review Thread
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N° 2048
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potatohead
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texhnolyze
Banned
After playing the demo, I definitely like the aesthetic more. Bloodborne while the art design is amazing doesn't resonate with me as much. William Adams humanizes the game much more.
Also as much as I like the layers of story within the game world in a Souls or Bloodborne game I'm just as happy to have the story told in a straight forward manner again.
pretty done
Member
If you value straight mechanics, you may like Nioh more. I think level design in Souls completely trumps this game so far, but we'll see when I'm finished. It's an incredible game if you like action games in general.
Why does the score make them irrelevant?
No matter what you think of the mechanics or design decisions in Uncharted 4, it does not deserve a 4. Any game with that level of polish and responsiveness should be a 6 at least. 5 and under should be reserved for games that are technically faulted, or real bad. I don't like U4 a whole lot but it's definitely neither of those things.
If you use scale 1-10 then 5 would mean mediocre and not something that is technically faulted or real bad. And why it doesn't matter what you think of mechanics or design? If the reviewer thinks those aspects are not as good as in other games then the person has every right to review it so. It doesn't make their opinion irrelevant.
Chaos, you got the game yet?
Imp the Dimp
Member
What? Dragon's Dogma is way closer to Nioh and Souls than the Witcher.
I really like the game as well, but it seems very short-sighted and reactionary for anyone calling this immediately superior to the SoulsBorne games.
I'd argue that the level layouts, story progression, and enemy variety is a bit lacking in my time so far with Nioh. Only on the second continent so hopefully this changes, but have been super bummed that such a major setting change elicits barely anything new to fight. There is plenty I do love though and it makes an incredible first impression. Would highly recommend the game, but the basis on it being superior to those other games is really flimsy.
I'd argue that the level layouts, story progression, and enemy variety is a bit lacking in my time so far with Nioh. Only on the second continent so hopefully this changes, but have been super bummed that such a major setting change elicits barely anything new to fight. There is plenty I do love though and it makes an incredible first impression. Would highly recommend the game, but the basis on it being superior to those other games is really flimsy.
Neoleo2143
Member
I'd kinda vouch for how the flaws of DD's combat are not dissimilar to the Witcher's issue with balancing.
That being said, DD has vastly superior movement to Witcher.
As for Ni-Oh, I'm really enjoying the game but I think Team Ninja could have stripped out some of the fluff like the loot system which might allow them to make even tighter balancing. Souls really nailed loot by exploration and Demon's Souls completely nailed the viability of said weapons and more games need to attempt it.
TheKastorian
Member
Shipping estimate on Amazon is 1-2 months. That's ridiculous, are they doing this on purpose?
Clarkus Darkus
Member
To be fair, I'd knock some point off for the backwards coop feature that was available in beta's but not the full game.
It's a 7/10
It's a 7/10
DriftingSpirit
Member
Stock must be very low.
GHG
Gold Member
It's utterly deserving of the good reviews from what I've played. Really solid mechanics and some very interesting ideas added to what is 100% the Souls formula, right down to areas and enemies that are either tributes to the original series or just blatantly stolen.
These additions are what make the game unique and worthy of praise above the usual 75-80 review for a game that works fine but comes across as utterly uninspired. The Ki system is the heart of every encounter, and rewards fine tuning your strategy. The avalanche of loot would be a hassle if it weren't for the streamlined and responsive interface for sorting through and selling / offering / disassembling large amounts of gear. The extra layers of storytelling are also appreciated, though I wish there was a second level of discoverable lore under the surface.
All in all, an impressive release deserving of being sold out left and right.
These additions are what make the game unique and worthy of praise above the usual 75-80 review for a game that works fine but comes across as utterly uninspired. The Ki system is the heart of every encounter, and rewards fine tuning your strategy. The avalanche of loot would be a hassle if it weren't for the streamlined and responsive interface for sorting through and selling / offering / disassembling large amounts of gear. The extra layers of storytelling are also appreciated, though I wish there was a second level of discoverable lore under the surface.
All in all, an impressive release deserving of being sold out left and right.
Things definitely get better in terms of enemy variety. What whatever reason, the early missions feel like you're just fighting the same things over and over, but the further you get in, suddenly you're seeing a nice amount of new foes. Maybe not as many as I'd like to have seen in the end, but don't worry, enemy variety definitely starts improving soon.
I would not.
Its just an overreaction to a trial version that always says 'not representative of the final product'.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Oh come on...
Yeah it is nuts. Seems like Sony didn't have any belief for this game to be a success.
That is totally the same thing.
ASilentProtagonist
Member
I really liked Nioh, but in comparison to the souls games (DS1, DeS, BB), there is no comparison IMO. The souls games are on another level to me. Atmosphere, interconnected worlds, lore, NPC's, music, and bosses.
Nioh puts a immense focus on combat which makes some of the other aspects of the game feel like a bit of an after thought.
shadowfall
Member
I am with you on Dark Souls 3. I like Bloodborne more. Nioh has issues with level design.
BB>Nioh>>>>>DS3
Unknown?
Member
Ridiculous! Sony should have had more confidence in this game or they're pushing digital...
shadowfall
Member
Personally Nioh was not even in my radar till like a week before release. I didnt play the Beta or Alpha and I am soulsborne player. I guess they were just not prepared for the demand.
MegaSackman
Member
I don't think I'll like Nioh more than Bloodborne, but I can see it reaching Dark Souls III level of brilliance, maybe even surpass it (already did on combat department).
DSIII was also the third game in the series so it can feel like well worn territory. Even if Nioh were technically inferior I could prefer it over DSIII just for being fresher. I certainly felt that way with Salt & Sanctuary (though I forget if I showed that in the GOTY voting or not. Can be argued as inferior but more enjoyable to go through.)
Me too, but including Dark Souls 2.
Sigh, I love the idea behind this game...and the historic tie-ins.
I don't like BB or the Souls series though...
Is it exactly like them gameplay wise?
I can't stand repeatedly doing things over and over and over. I don't mind hard bosses, but I don't want to grind or spend time repeating the same areas in a game. My game time is limited and I have to be able to pause at any time.
I don't like BB or the Souls series though...
Is it exactly like them gameplay wise?
I can't stand repeatedly doing things over and over and over. I don't mind hard bosses, but I don't want to grind or spend time repeating the same areas in a game. My game time is limited and I have to be able to pause at any time.
I think you can pause by hitting the PS button.
You won't like this.
It has a different combat system, but it is more repetitive than Souls. If repeating similar areas and grinding is an issue for you then I don't think you will like it.
Bl@de
Member
Stock must be very low. Game is sold out since day one. Have a feeling that the physical release will end up as a very rare game. Or they reprint it...
Shame...thanks though. Similar to MMOs, I just can't do repetition/grinding and retreading ground.
Planisphaerium
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what is blatantly stolen?
Moon Presence
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Lmao *thisisneogaf.gif*
I exoect 5* from EZA, don't know if it will bring it up to 88.
Planisphaerium
Member
do they count towards metacritic?
Primethius
Banned
Yes, they do. I'm not sure if I expect a 5 from EZA. I could see it but I could also see Ben being more critical of the game than other reviewers.
Kazuo Hirai
I really want everyone to know how much more Titanfall 2 sold than Nioh. It was a staggering amount.
Yeah, they have a site now
plasmawave
Banned
I'm guessing 4.5/5.
As I suggested, it's hard to tell whether the Souls team should find it flattering or be outraged because the foundation of the game is so blatantly similar. Let's see, though, aside from the entire basic mechanical structure of the game?
- The behavior patterns of the
is clearly meant to remind players of therolling enemies in the mines.rolling skeleton wheels
- The
in general feel like a riff on the poison-themed blight town, including the appearance of rickety platforms over everything.mines
- There's a sub-mission relatively early filled with
that continually resurrectmusicians playing what I believe are shamisen. They'd be familiar to anyone who fought skeletons with necromancers around.flaming skulls, but also dead player revenants which I actually thought was a nice touch
Nothing is without iteration and innovation so it's not a simply cash-in clone, but it's hard to play without seeing many very familiar aspects.
Primethius
Banned
What do you mean by basic mechanical structure? The game's entire combat system is drastically different than a Souls title (and harkens more to other older action games than any particular Souls game). And as part of that, most of the sub-systems are fairly different as well.
It shares surface level similarities sure, but that's really about it I would say.
Holundrian
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DealWithIt
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The stat/leveling system, right down to bloodstain retrieval is a complete lift of Dark Souls. The games are distinguishable but there's more than surface level similarities. It's a good game and it's fun, but IMO you have to acknowledge its borrowed foundations.