Megadragon15
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3DO M2's cancellation has its revenge on Panasonic.
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No Axl in Your Pocket Panasonic cancels Jungle
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VibratingDonkey
Member
Didn't they know where the fuck they were?
Dedication Through Light
Member
Wow what were these market conditions that changed in just not even 6 months, they had no forecasting ability or something? Based on the article, I guess Sony now has no competition in the arena.
Neuromancer
Member
As a dyed in the wool Jungler, this news saddens me greatly.
At what point in time did they ever think that trying to beat Nintendo and Sony to the next generation was even plausible. Did they even show any games for it? I thought they announced it via MTV or something and we haven't heard anything since.
Between Iphones, Droids, 3DS, NGP. No one wants another portable device that plays games. We have enough of them.
Even if they had a cool idea I also don't see anyone playing MMO's on a portable device. Imagine trying to do Arena's in WoW or something with that little keyboard. Would end up using 3 cooldowns fat fingering the "2" key.
Between Iphones, Droids, 3DS, NGP. No one wants another portable device that plays games. We have enough of them.
Even if they had a cool idea I also don't see anyone playing MMO's on a portable device. Imagine trying to do Arena's in WoW or something with that little keyboard. Would end up using 3 cooldowns fat fingering the "2" key.
MisterHero
Super Member
To be fair I don't think DS/PSP/3DS/NGP have a huge market in MMOs. They probably got a lot of feedback that people would use it to play free/pay-for-extras games, which wouldn't have done them or supporting developers a whole lot of good lolpoppabk said:
I need a platform for my Dungeon Fighter fix though
As smart as it is not to release this, it means something behind the scenes changes because even though it was stupid they were still planning on it.
My thoughts is that they couldn't make a deal with Blizzard, and if you want to sell a handheld MMO device you can't do it without World of Warcraft.
My thoughts is that they couldn't make a deal with Blizzard, and if you want to sell a handheld MMO device you can't do it without World of Warcraft.
lunarworks
Member
...and here I was looking forward to calling Jungle fanboys "Junggalos".
Marty Chinn
Member
Thank god this is finally official. I've known about this for two months now. I was unfortunately associated with that clusterfuck of a project and spent a year of my life working on that damn thing. Panasonic had contracted us for what was supposed to be just a couple months but turned out to being almost a year. I still remember when I first got there, I saw it and was like, are you serious? Then I saw their plan, and I was like, no friggin way will this get done in time. With the way things were, I kept thinking they have to cancel this now, but every check point it never did. That thing was doomed to failure from the beginning and nobody at Panasonic could see it because almost nobody there had game industry experience or knowledge. Don't get me wrong, there were some good smart people there, but it really was amateur hour there in so many ways which made it one of the most frustrating and irritating years of my life. Man it would blow your mind at some of the things that happend there.
Onion_Relish
Member
The Faceless Master said:
Please let me know when you start your own business so i can avoid it like the plague.
Marty Chinn
Member
Onion_Relish said:
What's this supposed to mean?
Scalpel Knight
Member
End of gaming, fuck you guys for not supporting this incredible device. I, for one, will go outside the Panasonic headquarters and form a rally consisting entirely of myself campaigning for the resurrection of this handheld gaming messiah.
polyh3dron
Banned
GUARDIAN WAR 2Eccocid said:
BELIEVE
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I think he is saying that once you start developing a project, once you have sunk money into it, it is best to pursue it to the end even if projections suggest that it will not be a financial success.Marty Chinn said:
Read all about it
and how this is wrong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs#Loss_aversion_and_the_sunk_cost_fallacy
tearsofash
Member
This must be divine retribution for not releasing the M2.
They got my message!
Marty Chinn
Member
poppabk said:
Heh, I was about to reply before reading your link thinking I know all about sunk costs, but then I see what you were referring to in the link. Ya, I know about the fact that once you've spent the money it's irrelevent and moving forward, it's about does it make financial sense to spend more money if you can't make that back. There were sooo many points where they kept getting more funding when they probably shouldn't have so The Faceless Monster is right that Panasonic finally made a good business decision when they made so many bad ones before that with this project by not canceling it earlier.
soultron said:
I kid you not, but many were not aware....and those that were tried to argue that they aren't the competition.
Onion_Relish
Member
poppabk said:
I was more referring to the fact this idea was stillborn to begin with. Lets make a dedicated MMO device that runs more slowly than a laptop, does less than a laptop, is uglier than a laptop, has less games than a laptop, doesnt have world of warcraft, doesnt have a proper keyset, doesnt have proper support from third parties, doesnt have the BEST mmos, wont have any marketing budget, wont have a friendly price point, wont be upgradeable, and most importantly of all, probably wont play well (or at least as well as a laptop)
the only good points it has was that it runs linux and that if someone ever saw you on the bus playing your jungle they would instinctively be curious about what the device was but be scared off by the inevitable neckbeard and stench lines emminating off your body. They would associate people who play the jungle with people they never want anything to do with.
Jesus christ, its like i forgot how to actually put together a cogent sentence. Fuck i'm stupid.
Sunk Costs, yeah, woo, go business.
Marty Chinn
Member
Onion_Relish said:
I don't understand how that's related to your comment about:
Onion_Relish
Member
because if someone came up to me and said "i want to make a dedicated mmo device, give me money" i would laugh in their faces and possibly spit on them too. The only way i could reject someone faster would be if they said "i want to make a social networking site that can go against facebook, give me money"
Marty Chinn
Member
Onion_Relish said:
Again, are you reading what you're typing? How does that respond to someone saying that Panasonic finally made a good business decision? It sounds like you're in agreement rather than you disagreeing with what he said.
Onion_Relish
Member
Marty Chinn said:
oh wow, yeah, sorry. My reading comprehension and grammar are shit today. Please excuse my idiocy.
Marty Chinn
Member
Ok, whew, I thought I was going nuts trying to figure out what you were saying. No worries =)Onion_Relish said:
ElectricBanquet
Member
At least they wised up before actually releasing this thing. Still, it's legitimately fascinating to me that they got as far along into developing it as they did before realizing it was a horrible idea.
Anticitizen One
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Panasonic was no match for iOS devices
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