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No Half-Life 2: Episode 3 in 2010?

m0ngo said:
I would be surprised if it wasn't a full blown sequel they're working on now, given the amount of time that has passed. Although valve do have they're own perception of time :lol
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I mean sure, there's 'when it's done,' but if it really took them three years to make a 4 hour game on an existing engine with existing assets, that would be mind-blowingly slow.
 
Fox the Sly said:
This is why I stopped asking about it. Also, did Valve ever say there would necessarily be 3 episodes or is that just what everyone assumed? Memory fails me.
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It wasn't so much they announced a set number of episodes but that they said they were shifting to an episodic development cycle which would supposedly shorten the wait between games. Hasn't exactly worked out that way, unfortunately....
 
It may not be Counter-Strike in name, but there is a sort of spiritual sequel coming out soon from Minh Le who is also known as Gooseman and the co-creator of Counter-Strike. It's called Tactical Intervention.
 
Didn't they say episodes 1, 2 and 3 are basically HL3? Because building the traditional HL3 would have taken something stupid like 10 years and way too high budget.
 
StuBurns said:
Didn't they say episodes 1, 2 and 3 are basically HL3? Because building the traditional HL3 would have taken something stupid like 10 years and way too high budget.
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Yes, that is what Valve has said about Episodes 1, 2, and 3. They make up what Half-Life 3 was suppose to be.
 
It had BETTER be Half Life 3 now. I wish they'd at least fucking tell us something, nothing happens unless someone squeezes them for the info.
 
It's been two years since The Orange Box, and we've only seen concept art dated 2007. At this point, it's gotta be Half-Life 3 now. Didn't they also say that they planned to rap up the current story arc with this last episode?
 
I think what they should do is announce HL3, and then release Episode 3 as both a conclusion to the HL2 story and a prologue to the main ($60) event, HL3.
 
Has there ever been an episodic game that kept to a quick schedule? Sin Episodes fell apart and these HL episodes are separated by years. I seem to remember Wing Commander having a version with episodes, but I don't remember if they made their target.
 
Javaman said:
Has there ever been an episodic game that kept to a quick schedule? Sin Episodes fell apart and these HL episodes are separated by years. I seem to remember Wing Commander having a version with episodes, but I don't remember if they made their target.
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Strong Bads Cool Game for Awesome People (SBCG4AP) only fell about a week or so behind, if I remember correctly. :P
 
Javaman said:
Has there ever been an episodic game that kept to a quick schedule? Sin Episodes fell apart and these HL episodes are separated by years. I seem to remember Wing Commander having a version with episodes, but I don't remember if they made their target.
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Every Telltale game that was released episodic.
 
How much were they planning on explaining in Ep 3? Are we ever going to find out exactly how HL1 and HL2 tie together and/or the origin on the G man?
 
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For the longest time I didn't believe that Episode Three was going to be much longer than Episode Two, but yeah, I can totally see it being a 10-13 chapter game (around the length of HL2) if it's coming in 2011.

Half-Life 2 - November 16, 2004
Half-Life 2: Episode One - June 1, 2006
Half-Life 2: Episode Two - October 10, 2007

Episode One supposedly began development shortly after Half-Life 2 shipped, so it had around 18 months of dev time. Episode Two began development around the same time as Episode One (iirc), so that had about 35 months of dev time. The release gap between Episode One and Two was about 16 months.

Doug Lombardi told us to expect a longer wait back in October 2008 (http://archive.videogamesdaily.com/features/valve-doug-lombardi-left-4-dead-interview-p3.asp): "Yeah, the next time you play as Gordon will be longer than the distance between HL2 to Ep1, and Ep1 to Ep2." Given the bottom limit of 18 months or so and the development time of Episode Two, let's give an estimate of 48 months (or 4 years, still shorter than Half-Life 2's 6 year development time).

Assuming Episode Three began development at the release of Episode Two (likely earlier, but I'm being conservative), that would put the game somewhere in fall 2011.
 
beelzebozo said:
i will patiently sit in a dark room and twiddle my thumbs until this is released.

then i will buy it. and play it.

and it will be glorious.
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This is pretty much my strategy. I mean being reminded that we still haven't heard anything more about it from Valve just makes the waiting more unbearable. Can't we all agree to forget about it until Valve actually throws us a bone?
 
I've been saying pretty much since about six months after Episode 2 that they're going to ditch the Episodes and go straight to HL3.

Be patient, it's Valve.
 
Cindres said:
It had BETTER be Half Life 3 now. I wish they'd at least fucking tell us something, nothing happens unless someone squeezes them for the info.
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Which, strangely enough, no one has.

I will wait as long as it takes.
 
What would be awesome, is if we start playing episode three, expecting a conclusion, only to have a huge cliffhanger with an official announcement to half life 3 in a steam store sale window you get when trying games out. THAT will be an official announcement and alert the internets :3
 
Xater said:
Every Telltale game that was released episodic.
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big ander said:
Strong Bads Cool Game for Awesome People (SBCG4AP) only fell about a week or so behind, if I remember correctly. :P
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<slaps head> I had totally forgotten about Telltale. Yeah, they've been cranking them out pretty consistently.
 
I'm calling it now; Episode 3 is in fact Secret PS3 Game. Valve just needs to spend 2010 learning the Cell architecture.

2011: Year of the PS3, Part 4 confirmed.

:D:D
 
If they came out and said "We're making HL3, it won't be out till at least Fall 2011" then i'd be satisfied in the knowledge we know why it's taking this long.
 
Instro said:
Bust...well at least theres still Black Mesa, that would cover my Half Life needs if it makes it out this year.
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honestly, i just go back and play the old games again periodically. to me, they're timeless, and they're so awesome that they stand by themselves as great times just fine. i could go for a new episode in the same way that i could go for a followup to any great movie (so long as it was coming from a source that i thought assured it to be fantastic), but i'm also perfectly content for the time being to just get my half-life fix by. . . playing half-life.
 
:lol Valve is one company I just can't understand.

Half-Life 2 - 11/16/04
Half-Life 2 - Episode 1 - 6/1/06
Half-Life 2 - Episode 2 - 10/10/07

Why the fuck does it take that long to make a sequel? I just can't figure out a valid reason why. Hell, I've refused to play Ep1 and 2 until all 3 were released. Guess I'll keep biding my time with other stuff.
 
George Broussard has been working on this game with Valve in secret. Next tidbit of news; they will name it Half-Life Forever.
 
BobLoblaw said:
:lol Valve is one company I just can't understand.

Half-Life 2 - 11/16/04
Half-Life 2 - Episode 1 - 6/1/06
Half-Life 2 - Episode 2 - 10/10/07

Why the fuck does it take that long to make a sequel? I just can't figure out a valid reason why. Hell, I've refused to play Ep1 and 2 until all 3 were released. Guess I'll keep biding my time with other stuff.
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Play them and it'll make sense.
 
BobLoblaw said:
:lol Valve is one company I just can't understand.

Half-Life 2 - 11/16/04
Half-Life 2 - Episode 1 - 6/1/06
Half-Life 2 - Episode 2 - 10/10/07

Why the fuck does it take that long to make a sequel? I just can't figure out a valid reason why. Hell, I've refused to play Ep1 and 2 until all 3 were released. Guess I'll keep biding my time with other stuff.
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To be fair, they've been making L4D games for the past two years...

...that was what I was GOING to say, before I remembered that Portal and TF2 came out in 07 as well. These guys are slowwwwww
 
BobLoblaw said:
:lol Valve is one company I just can't understand.

Half-Life 2 - 11/16/04
Half-Life 2 - Episode 1 - 6/1/06
Half-Life 2 - Episode 2 - 10/10/07

Why the fuck does it take that long to make a sequel? I just can't figure out a valid reason why. Hell, I've refused to play Ep1 and 2 until all 3 were released. Guess I'll keep biding my time with other stuff.
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u mad
 
Honestly, I've enjoyed Valve's recent non-Half-Life stuff more than the HL2 Episodes anyway, so I'm fine with this. Ep1 and 2 were both great, but they were kind of same-old, whereas Portal, Left 4 Dead, and TF2 have all done really creative stuff with the Source engine.

Also, the prospect of Ep3/Half-Life 3 on a new engine (or more substantial leap of Source) is pretty appealing.

Episode 3 to be revamped as a Facebook app
 
I'm kind of hoping "Half-Life³" provides a jump in the timeline like HL1->HL2 did. My fanboy logic thinks this will still be called "Episode 3," be like 12-15 hours long and still be set in the HL2 world, setting up for the super awesome 40 hour long HL3 set in the future. Episode 3 will be the end of this story line with Dr. Breen and Alex and other secondary characters. I wouldn't count out an older Alex making an appearance in future Half-Life 3, however :D
 
Valve just shot themselves in the foot

Amidoingitrite?

I was actually just having a discussion with my brother the other day about this. We both kinda came to the conclusion they'd just go ahead and make it Half-Life 3. Hopefully if it's going to take forever then it'll be a massively upgraded engine for the new PC I'm sure to have by then
 
Amir0x said:
Well you know at this point I think Valve has failed to understand the whole point of 'episodic content.'
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No shit. I don't Valve will be naming any more Half-life games 'episodic' anything. I do however suspect they will repeat the 'Orange Box' concept of bundling games.
 
I'd be cool with a L4D3 in the meantime set on the west coast or something

I'm not in a hurry for EP3 even though I'm excited...take as long as you need to make it fucken fantastic
 
People have a very odd understanding of the word 'episode', it doesn't mean frequent. The word doesn't even imply any length of time between releases. Valve didn't 'fail' at episodic content, in fact they released by far the highest quality episode content of any developer.
 
Valve's been pretty good with releasing a game a year recently (or in TOB case, multiple at the same time), kinda assumed Episode 3 is now the main thing they're working on for putting out this year (especially after saying they don't intend to make L4D3 anytime soon) but I suppose Portal 2 or hell even Counterstrike 2 are also possibilities. Lot of ways Valve can go about it. Release Ep 3 on it's own this year or perhaps continue working on it into 2011 along with the likes of Portal 2, CS2 and release a new Orange Box. Maybe debut a brand new engine with these 3, who knows.

Either way, it will be incredibly disappointing if Ep 3 is only the same length as Ep 2. With the time they've had to work on it, no reason this shouldn't be at least be a 12-15 hour game now.
 
StuBurns said:
People have a very odd understanding of the word 'episode', it doesn't mean frequent. The word doesn't even imply any length of time between releases. Valve didn't 'fail' at episodic content, in fact they released by far the highest quality episode content of any developer.
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No, not strictly speaking, but come on now, it IS implied and most people obviously expected shortish dev times. I don't think Valve originally intended for this long between episodes, either.
 
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