I just can't help but feel I am missing something, on paper I should love the game, it's frustrating.
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No Man's Sky Review Thread: The Scores Have Arrived (read OP)
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SmoothRunningGun
Member
The devs already made bank so they probably don't give shit. The reviews spell out exactly what gave me pause (billions of planets but really only a small amount of variation, crap combat, nothing to do other than resource gathering...)
Glass Shark
Banned
At a breakneck pace, getting to the center would take about 150 hours by my calculation. Good luck.
Samurai G0SU
Member
Wtf at the copy paste reviews .lmao!!!!!!!!!
That is just it. The framework is fantastic, it just needs more of a 'structure' built around it. What is there can only go so far. This is where the dust of my expectations have settled at after over 15 hours. A great game that just needs more substance. Which I think they can certainly improve upon with some much needed updates.
Huh? The first guy who had the game did it in 30 and screwed around for most of that.
Kssio_Aug
Member
I don't know where you live neither your economical situation, but I consider full priced games expensive as fuck, even in a direct dollar conversion.
Glass Shark
Banned
The day 1 patch made it where you start much further from the center.
Trust me, I've been making jumps to the center as fast and efficiently as I possibly can, and I've barely made a dent in the journey.
So after playing this for several hours now, I'd give this game a 6 out of 10. To me, this is more of a proof of concept or a tech demo than an actual game.
I'm now starting to understand the complaints about repetitiveness. There's three planets in the first system I started out on and the only real difference between the three is the climate, other than that what you do on each planet boils down to the same thing.
I think the biggest thing this game lacks is focus. It needs to focus on one thing and do that good, but instead it's trying to do everything in a mediocre way.
Also, I don't see the point of looking for way points on a planet when the only thing they serve as is save points, would be nice if you could fast travel between them, it would save a lot of headache. Either that or give us a vehicle to explore the planet because trying to traverse the planet on foot is a massive pain in the ass.
And don't even get me started on the horrible inventory management or the way you upgrade your things....
I actually ended up using Cheat Engine to change two things that drastically improved my experience. One was infinite stamina, so I could sprint as long as I want, and the other was no overheating on the mining laser because it just made mining even more of a chore.
Of course, this all makes the game sound worse than it is. It's still addicting to go and discover new planets and systems, but that enjoyment can only last so long.
I agree, just based on the content and depth, it's a $30 game. It does not feel like a full blown AAA $60 game. It should be priced around Minecraft because it's a similar style of game, but even Minecraft has a lot more to do than this game(even in single player).
I'm now starting to understand the complaints about repetitiveness. There's three planets in the first system I started out on and the only real difference between the three is the climate, other than that what you do on each planet boils down to the same thing.
I think the biggest thing this game lacks is focus. It needs to focus on one thing and do that good, but instead it's trying to do everything in a mediocre way.
Also, I don't see the point of looking for way points on a planet when the only thing they serve as is save points, would be nice if you could fast travel between them, it would save a lot of headache. Either that or give us a vehicle to explore the planet because trying to traverse the planet on foot is a massive pain in the ass.
And don't even get me started on the horrible inventory management or the way you upgrade your things....
I actually ended up using Cheat Engine to change two things that drastically improved my experience. One was infinite stamina, so I could sprint as long as I want, and the other was no overheating on the mining laser because it just made mining even more of a chore.
Of course, this all makes the game sound worse than it is. It's still addicting to go and discover new planets and systems, but that enjoyment can only last so long.
I agree, just based on the content and depth, it's a $30 game. It does not feel like a full blown AAA $60 game. It should be priced around Minecraft because it's a similar style of game, but even Minecraft has a lot more to do than this game(even in single player).
Seriously? Well then, I'll just take my time and take breaks here and there. I am not burning myself out with constant mining and shit. That long is just spreading the experience too thin for what is currently there.
Humdinger
Gold Member
I played it for about 6 hours, wasn't feeling it, sold it on ebay. It wasn't a bad game, just not my style -- too heavy on inventory and resource management, too light on the feeling of exploration and discovery. Exploration wasn't that rewarding to me, and I felt like I spent most of my time fiddling with inventory screens.
My hope is that other devs/publishers will be "inspired" by the hype and financial success of NMS, but chastened by its mediocre reviews, and they will set out to make space exploration games that are improved over what NMS offers.
For instance, rather than procedural generation of 18 quintillion planets that don't have a lot of variety on the planets themselves, hand-crafted solar systems of a modest size, with lots of interesting variation on the planets. Less emphasis on the inventory and resource management. Throw in a story that provides a sense of motivation, a character you can connect with, and some interesting alien encounters and civilizations. I could love a game like that.
My hope is that other devs/publishers will be "inspired" by the hype and financial success of NMS, but chastened by its mediocre reviews, and they will set out to make space exploration games that are improved over what NMS offers.
For instance, rather than procedural generation of 18 quintillion planets that don't have a lot of variety on the planets themselves, hand-crafted solar systems of a modest size, with lots of interesting variation on the planets. Less emphasis on the inventory and resource management. Throw in a story that provides a sense of motivation, a character you can connect with, and some interesting alien encounters and civilizations. I could love a game like that.
MythicReclaimer
Member
This is where a lot of players are going to get abruptly stopped in their tracks and put the game down. I get the exploration part of it and the losing one's self in the game-world but that part of it becomes so incredibly samey and in combination with the super simple gameplay on each planet/traversal to the next planet it will cause a lot of players to say enough is enough with the realization of how much that exploration/gameplay cycle they have to repeat in order to reach the center.
Glass Shark
Banned
Oh, I'm not even accounting for mining in any of that. I have enough money that I can just buy components for Warp Cores at space stations. So I'm literally just warping to a system, stopping in the space station to buy out their inventory, and then warping 10 more systems ahead. I don't stop on planets anymore. Every few jumps I need to mine from asteroids, but that's super quick.
Literally just this min-maxing loop is going to take me at least 150 hours of gameplay. If you actually stop to mine and things like that, you'll easily double or triple it.
Of course, there may be something further along in the game that speeds up my progress significantly. But I've already reached the maximum number of systems I can get through in a single jump, and I've used a black hole. So if I keep this pace that's how long it would take. I don't know if I can manage to keep interested for that long.
Alebrije
Member
Do not know if that is the same for other players but happened the same on a friends house. We thought there will plenty of planets variations because if you just think about our solar system each planet is very different from other. But once you realize that to find a nice interesting planet you probably will need to pass for a lot of boring ones ( similar animals , landscape) the sense of exploring goes down fast and this is a serious problem for a game that relies on exploration since it seems combat and trade is lame.
Maybe there are people with luck that discovers very different planets often and enjoy the game as it is
But for me was a preorder cancel since the way the game is right now it only deserves a 20-30 us price
travisbickle
Member
My multi-tool is massively different to what I started with and changes the experience a lot. Mining's a piece of piss, and I can rob a plutonium deposit and get away in seconds.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Can you explain what is so privileged about buying a game full priced.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Is the Euroganer qoute true? Was this game's structure really added in just a month ago, previously being half that? Is there a source on this?
Tomeru
Member
Its like trying to explain life. NMS is what it is. No shame or honor involved here. You play or you don't.
Its like taking out the story in Skyrim or GTA. Youget a sandbox playground to just doshit with no real goal. But its fun for some.
People trying to justify themselves for liking a game is sadder than people attacking a game.
Its like taking out the story in Skyrim or GTA. Youget a sandbox playground to just doshit with no real goal. But its fun for some.
People trying to justify themselves for liking a game is sadder than people attacking a game.
SplitYourInfinities
Member
Insults? It was a honest question mate, there are a bunch of PR persons from different companies here in GAF, nothing wrong with it.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Financially privileged. Some folks can't just drop full price on multiple games a year so the ones they get best be good.
Orniletter
Banned
So it's exactly what I expected. Proteus in space.
People who are into Ubisoft and Bethesda games for "exploration" will love it (even though NMS doesn't even seem to do that very well either), but those looking for good gameplay won't find anything of any worth in NMS.
People who are into Ubisoft and Bethesda games for "exploration" will love it (even though NMS doesn't even seem to do that very well either), but those looking for good gameplay won't find anything of any worth in NMS.
Still don't understand why so many still pre-order exorbitantly priced games when waiting a week or two is always the better idea. Like dropping a bowling ball on your foot and complaining about how heavy it is.
Doom was awesome though. One of the best this year. I don't see the correlation.
I don't like Ubisoft template games.
Doom was awesome though. One of the best this year. I don't see the correlation.
Quite clearly they were referring to Fallout.
Clearly.
I named one Grav, cause there are grav balls everywhere!
Orniletter
Banned
Oh, let me explain:
With "Bethesda games" I meant those developed by Bethesda Softworks (Skyrim, Fallout 4 etc.) and Ubisoft for their, as you said, "template" (AssCreed).
The allure of both seems to be that they have these huge worlds for people to explore...but most (all ?) of them are pretty meh to bad in the gameplay department.
I adore Ubisoft desing and have platinum trophies in some AssCreed games, Watch Dogs and Far Cry 3.
I'm bored of NMS after two days.
MythicReclaimer
Member
NMS suffers from the same problems that The Division's Underground expansion had, for me anyways.
The Underground expansion introduced randomly generated Operations. The problem is there isn't much random about any of it considering there are only 10 or so actual play-spaces and the encounters in said play-spaces all play out generally the the exact same way against the same faction.
In NMS you have 18 quintillion planets that are procedurally generated yet after a while you realize that while having different simple properties many, many of them are very similar and the "gameplay" on each is virtually the same.
Both becomes super boring and kills any potential for longevity (yet in NMS someone actually thought it would be fun to repeat such a monotonous experience to reach the center/end/end-game).
The Underground expansion introduced randomly generated Operations. The problem is there isn't much random about any of it considering there are only 10 or so actual play-spaces and the encounters in said play-spaces all play out generally the the exact same way against the same faction.
In NMS you have 18 quintillion planets that are procedurally generated yet after a while you realize that while having different simple properties many, many of them are very similar and the "gameplay" on each is virtually the same.
Both becomes super boring and kills any potential for longevity (yet in NMS someone actually thought it would be fun to repeat such a monotonous experience to reach the center/end/end-game).
Alebrije
Member
At least on those games the combat system is better and enjoyable , NMS combat is boring and this makes exploration less entertaining , basically there is not fear or tense moments on exploration because enemies or animals behave unagresvie , the sense of safety once you get good tools affects exploration.
NMS is a nice exploration game that is better while listening Jarre , specially Oxygene.
Is a game that you want to play when you do not have something else to do. Is about nothing just the experience.
jimbobsmells
Member
Likewise if you ever find planet 'goldmine'.
Perhaps the definitive statements about our tastes aren't all that definitive.
There are so many games out there. Games for everybody!
I honestly forget Fallout 4 even released all the time.
I saw. That's even putting it nicely.
I sort of wonder if there was an Alpha release to get player suggestions, work out bugs, etc.. would it have fared better.
LyleLanley
Banned
I think you're seriously underselling the gameplay in all of those games.
This honestly should have happened a long time ago. A beta test would give this thing a lot of feedback into its mundane systems. It also doesn't help the vertical slice preview that press got in like may was maximum 3-4 hours of gameplay of which most NMS players admit were the the best parts of the game. Its shock and awe was only there for the initial moments but really faded quickly.
Saucycarpdog
Member
You came into a review thread to say that people shouldn't care about reviews?
This is hilarious.
Unless they score it well, right?
Bloodporne
Member
I've already commented on it, but I had the same impression. The mechanics and overall gameplay components are so weak and thin, it felt like someone had put this 'world' together without realizing until shortly before release that, oh shit, there was supposed to be a game in there.
My friend sold it by now, a few days into it, so that's it for my impressions since I wouldn't pick this up for $10.
Bloodporne
Member
Man, Assassin's Creed 1 is Ninja Gaiden Black gameplay wise compared to No Man's Sky. Strike that, any given one of these potentially referenced Ubi/Beth titles is Ninja Gaiden Black, Devil May Cry 3 and Bloodborne combined in terms of mechanics compared to NMS.
I guess sony didn't pay them enough or the deal was just for marketing.
Well deserved. Hello Games said just the other day how more power could change NMS incredibly and yet the PC version is pretty much a straight Ps4 port.
You can cheese it. There's an item duping exploit. The post patch ending was posted online the same day as the patch was released.
There's also a cheat program posted in this thread earlier today, run it, press F3, it gives you 999 warp cells.