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Add space dinosaurs to any planet for 20 HelloBux

 

[vix]

Add space dinosaurs to any planet for 20 HelloBux

Add an engine to your ship, only 50 HelloBux. Act fast, this deal disappears after starting the game!

 

[Sangetsu-II]

They should figure out a way to make this game free-to-play. It might be more successful that way.

Maybe do space billboards. That's going to be a thing in the future anyway, right? Might as well be the front runner and get some ads for doritos and pepsi. As long as they don't put it on the planets, it won't ruin the game. Why would they put it on the planet anyway? It's not like the dinosaur alien things are going to read them.

Oh dear god (Sean)

Why did you even think that?

 

[dalin80]

Put a dozen people on the same planet and they might not find each other.

'I'm at the Atlas upload post'.
'Cool, see you in a minute.'

 

[LookAtMeGo]

If hypothetically you were in the same solar system as someone else I would just ask them to meet me at the space station in between planet A and planet B.

 

[Machina]

If hypothetically you were in the same solar system as someone else I would just ask them to meet me at the space station in between planet A and planet B.

We haven't even had it confirmed this is actually a multiplayer game, let alone having the ability to communicate lol

 

[LookAtMeGo]

We haven't even had it confirmed this is actually a multiplayer game, let alone having the ability to communicate lol

I said hypothetically. And I meant a friend communicating over voice chat. I was just suggesting an easier way to meet somebody rather than search for each other on a planets surface. And there has been confirmation that there are MP aspects to the game. Just that its so unlikely to meet another player it probably will never happen.

 

[Prototype Viktor]

Add space dinosaurs to any planet for 20 HelloBux

But I only got 13000 StarCoins

 

[jambo]

I said hypothetically. And I meant a friend communicating over voice chat. I was just suggesting an easier way to meet somebody rather than search for each other on a planets surface. And there has been confirmation that there are MP aspects to the game. Just that its so unlikely to meet another player it probably will never happen.

I think the issue you'll have is your starting points. If you are on the opposite edge of the galaxy then good luck reaching each other any time soon. Even if you were close, it would still be a while until you meet up.

Reminds me of early DayZ, running 10 hours across the map to find friends.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

I think the issue you'll have is your starting points. If you are on the opposite edge of the galaxy then good luck reaching each other any time soon. Even if you were close, it would still be a while until you meet up.

Reminds me of early DayZ, running 10 hours across the map to find friends.

I get that. Just the fact that it is possible, however extremely unlikely, I bet there are a few folks out there dedicated enough to make it happen.

I bet within the first few months of release we see at least someone upload a video of them meeting up with someone on Youtube. I may be wrong but I have a hunch.

I dont plan on meeting anyone. I just like the idea of it being a possibility if that was your ultimate goal with the game.

 

[False Witness]

I thought there was a beacon that you could craft that would call your ship to you? Like, you can't always call your ship, but you can make a one time use beacon to call it if you gather enough resources.

 

[vix]

I bet within the first few months of release we see at least someone upload a video of them meeting up with someone on Youtube. I may be wrong but I have a hunch.

I give it less than that considering pc players and the ability to mod games. It has me slightly worried aspect it's the game will get spoiled rather quickly but hopefully not. We'll see in a month.

 

[c0Zm1c]

One of the journalists from the press previews in May said he managed to leave the starting planet and flew off to a planet which was one giant storm.

Apparently you could barely see ten feet in front of you and it was just freezing and chaos everywhere. He had to find a cave to just survive the weather.

Well I would probably want to leave that planet. But that does sound awesome.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Another quote off a DM21 Gaming.

But yeah it just says your friends will show up. It doesnt say location specifically. I may have done some assuming there. It might just show their discoveries or something.

That's great.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Getting lost will be a major challenge. Careless players will lose their bearings and die before they can find their ship again. "Generally, you won't want to wander off into the unknown. What you'll want to do is know your surroundings a bit. Know where you can catch your breath, plot your course, and maybe think a bit before you venture out into the freezing cold," cautions Murray.

Just what I want to hear.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Just what I want to hear.

Sounds good.

 

[bigDave]

watching some videos, i'm convinced that we can recruit mercenaries, or at least as spaceships

 

[Galactic Fork]

Another quote off a DM21 Gaming.

But yeah it just says your friends will show up. It doesnt say location specifically. I may have done some assuming there. It might just show their discoveries or something.

I hate this quote. regions of space have names, systems have names, and planets have name. Yes, I totally agree it'd take tons and tons of time to reach each other and that's awesome. BUT the part about being on the same planet is dumb. Tell your friend what system to look for when they're in your general area of space. And then many planets have bases... Just meet there. Many systems have massive space stations. Meet there. Sure if all planets had no buildings or bases, or special places you can scan with bright markers for you to see.... then yeah, I could see the mountain thing making sense. But no.

 

[Stilton Disco]

Quick question I haven't been able to find an answer to with google: have we been told if the preorder bonus ship is a set design or randomly generated?

 

[Galactic Fork]

Quick question I haven't been able to find an answer to with google: have we been told if the preorder bonus ship is a set design or randomly generated?

It's a specific ship model.

Edit: Specifically the Alpha Vector Attack Ship.

 

[Stilton Disco]

It's a specific ship model.

Edit: Specifically the Alpha Vector Attack Ship.

So it always looks the same? Not even colour variation? Ah well.

 

[OuterLimits]

It does seem funny that planets can be named since they are "undiscovered". Yet space stations are in each solar system and intelligent alien races already own the Universe apparently.

Plus you have those sentinel things on planets protecting them I believe.

I get why the space stations are needed though. Can't have players dying and getting stranded in a solar system. That is why space stations can't be destroyed as well.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

I hate this quote. regions of space have names, systems have names, and planets have name. Yes, I totally agree it'd take tons and tons of time to reach each other and that's awesome. BUT the part about being on the same planet is dumb. Tell your friend what system to look for when they're in your general area of space. And then many planets have bases... Just meet there. Many systems have massive space stations. Meet there. Sure if all planets had no buildings or bases, or special places you can scan with bright markers for you to see.... then yeah, I could see the mountain thing making sense. But no.

I know what you're saying. I swear Sean is wording things the way he is to discourage people from doing it for whatever reason. When asked how many players could be inside the "matchmaking bubble" that surrounds players, he said something like "I dont want to say because then people will test it.. but more than the number of NPC's you would see at the same time".. or something very similar to that. Maybe too many people fucking around with this stuff might break the game or something. I dunno.

 

[Galactic Fork]

So it always looks the same? Not even colour variation? Ah well.

Dunno about color. PS4 physical preorders tend to get the Alpha Vector and PC preorders get the Horizon Omega.

I know what you're saying. I swear Sean is wording things the way he is to discourage people from doing it for whatever reason. When asked how many players could be inside the "matchmaking bubble" that surrounds players, he said something like "I dont want to say because then people will test it.. but more than the number of NPC's you would see at the same time".. or something very similar to that. Maybe too many people fucking around with this stuff might break the game or something. I dunno.

I really don't get the desire for multiplayer as the game is. I could see like a puppet bot a friend can take control of and run around with you and stuff, but two or more people each with their own ships together? They'd always be bogged down by the slowest person, and if they split up again they'd have to wait however long again until they could meet up. Rinse and repeat? Might as well just play thousands and thousands of light years apart and have different experiences and talk about them in chat.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Dunno about color. PS4 physical preorders tend to get the Alpha Vector and PC preorders get the Horizon Omega.



I really don't get the desire for multiplayer as the game is. I could see like a puppet bot a friend can take control of and run around with you and stuff, but two or more people each with their own ships together? They'd always be bogged down by the slowest person, and if they split up again they'd have to wait however long again until they could meet up. Rinse and repeat? Might as well just play thousands and thousands of light years apart and have different experiences and talk about them in chat.

Haha yeah I hear that. I think the game is shipping with its limited ability for running into another players so that the chance of running into another random human is there. It would be a really cool and rare experience. I think trying to actually meet a friend or something is just exploiting that feature and ultimately useless beyond just being able to say you did it.

That said, the fact that the systems are in place already, it wouldnt be hard for them to incorporate a proper matchmaking thing in the future. It really sounds like at release they just want the game to be experienced the way they designed it to be. Single player.

 

[Galactic Fork]

Haha yeah I hear that. I think the game is shipping with its limited ability for running into another players so that the chance of running into another random human is there. It would be a really cool and rare experience. I think trying to actually meet a friend or something is just exploiting that feature and ultimately useless beyond just being able to say you did it.

That said, the fact that the systems are in place already, it wouldnt be hard for them to incorporate a proper matchmaking thing in the future. It really sounds like at release they just want the game to be experienced the way they designed it to be. Single player.

What do you mean by a "proper matchmaking thing"?

 

[LookAtMeGo]

What do you mean by a "proper matchmaking thing"?

Like just being able to join a friends game or something and spawning at their location. But I wouldnt expect something like that until way down the line. It just seems possible. And Sean has said that they will add features and stuff in the future that the community wants.


This is a quote from an older Gamespot interview with Sean Murray

"There is this thing, which I'm not going to talk about now; that is a plan for multiplayer, and for people to have a more traditional multiplayer experience within the game. That's something that we'll deal with further down the line, that is exciting. But that is not what's core to the game right now. We have a laser-sharp focus on what we're going to ship with, basically."

 

[Impulsor]

I hope this game supports 21:9 on PC... I doubt it though.

 

[soqquatto]

Like just being able to join a friends game or something and spawning at their location. But I wouldnt expect something like that until way down the line. It just seems possible. And Sean has said that they will add features and stuff in the future that the community wants.


This is a quote from an older Gamespot interview with Sean Murray

that really sounds as something that would go against the very concept of this game. I still need to understand why players would want to stick together, since as far as we can tell there are no systems in place that would benefit from that. I'm not sure the game will grow so much as to completely transform itself like minecraft did.

 

[Muzicfreq]

Wait is this preorder bonus only with Gamestop?
I see nothing about it in the Limited Edition on amazon or any preorder bonuses.
if this is the case I really wish companies would stop this shit. -_- screws over a number of people from extras that they could have.

 

[desu]

I hope this game supports 21:9 on PC... I doubt it though.

Ehh please, don't destroy my hopes.

 

[WadeitOut]

I hope this game supports 21:9 on PC... I doubt it though.

I'd give it about a zero percent chance that we can't just manipulate the FOV to do it ourselves even if they didn't natively have it as an option.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

that really sounds as something that would go against the very concept of this game. I still need to understand why players would want to stick together, since as far as we can tell there are no systems in place that would benefit from that. I'm not sure the game will grow so much as to completely transform itself like minecraft did.

Yeah. I really have no idea whats in store for the future of this game. I'd be just fine if this game never had any type of MP whatsoever. I'm just relaying info I've come across in my travels. If he is saying they have plans for a more traditional style of MP in the future but not having deathmatches and clans and stuff like that, the only thing I can think of is allowing 2 player coop or something at some point.

Obviously I'm just speculating though. I could see it being fun attacking a fleet of freighters or something with a buddy.

 

[Aceofspades]

This has to be biggest "X game went gold" thread.

 

[atpbx]

Nah, the real "I'm a captain of my ship" game to keep an eye out for is Flagship

That project is dead, the website hasn't been updated in over a year and the kick starter crashed and burned.

So yeah, dont hold your breath.

 

[Impulsor]

I'd give it about a zero percent chance that we can't just manipulate the FOV to do it ourselves even if they didn't natively have it as an option.

I hope you are right.

This game has to be absolutely stunning on a 21:9 screen

 

[dreamstation]

I get why the space stations are needed though. Can't have players dying and getting stranded in a solar system. That is why space stations can't be destroyed as well.

I thought they said space stations could be destroyed, it was just very very difficult to do so?

 

[Carn82]

I hate this quote. regions of space have names, systems have names, and planets have name. Yes, I totally agree it'd take tons and tons of time to reach each other and that's awesome. BUT the part about being on the same planet is dumb. Tell your friend what system to look for when they're in your general area of space. And then many planets have bases... Just meet there. Many systems have massive space stations. Meet there. Sure if all planets had no buildings or bases, or special places you can scan with bright markers for you to see.... then yeah, I could see the mountain thing making sense. But no.

I think it has more to do with the distance you are able to travel. If your friend is 20 'hyperdrive hops' away and you can only hop 10 , you`ll first need to grind out that upgrade. We don't know the limits / size of that so called 'general area of space'. I`ll just repeat what I posted earlier:

IMHO.. I think a lot of people who think they will run into players a lot aren't grasping the scale of the game, even if the game is already 'condensed' compared to the real universe. Space is HUGE, frightingly huge. If there aren't clear pointers that an other player is 'near', you'll have a really hard time running into them. Player density will increase towards the center, but the amount of closest planets towards the center could still run into the millions. And I'm pretty sure that the gameplay / hyper drive mechanics are limited in a way that you can't hop systems indefinitely, there will be a limit on that.

I guess that IF you are in the same system and there is a clear point of Interest; you could meet up there; but if the game doesnt explicetely show player locations there could be 10 people on the same planet and you might not see any of them.

 

[dreamstation]

I guess that IF you are in the same system and there is a clear point of Interest; you could meet up there; but if the game doesnt explicetely show player locations there could be 10 people on the same planet and you might not see any of them.

Another potential issue is the draw distance. We've already seen some pop in on the planets in some of the videos they've shown. It may not be as apparent in space but there has to be a limit right? And with the sheer scale of what they are doing, it would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

 

[Sande]

I would really like to be proven wrong on NMS. The premise is like a childhood dream come true, but everything I've seen throughout the development has been checking all the wrong boxes.

It's definitely one of the most interesting releases in years, whichever way it turns out.

This has to be biggest "X game went gold" thread.

Well this hasn't exactly been a "went gold" thread for a good while now, really. It's just that due to the silly OT policy on NeoGAF, a random thread becomes the placeholder OT until an official one can go live.

 

[Carn82]

Another potential issue is the draw distance. We've already seen some pop in on the planets in some of the videos they've shown. It may not be as apparent in space but there has to be a limit right? And with the sheer scale of what they are doing, it would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

well, thats why you usually have maps or other visual cues in games; but if NMS doesnt 'highlight' other players in your surroundings then my guess it that you might have a hard time actually seeing/finding them.

 

[Galactic Fork]

I think it has more to do with the distance you are able to travel. If your friend is 20 'hyperdrive hops' away and you can only hop 10 , you`ll first need to grind out that upgrade. We don't know the limits / size of that so called 'general area of space'. I`ll just repeat what I posted earlier:




I guess that IF you are in the same system and there is a clear point of Interest; you could meet up there; but if the game doesnt explicetely show player locations there could be 10 people on the same planet and you might not see any of them.

I wasn't talking about the distance to get there, I even pointed out it'd be huge, and your 20 hops is waaay under estimating. We're probably talking more like hundreds, more if people want to coordinate at the beginning.

Not sure why you quoted the second part. There is no "IF." Planets have points of interests. You do a scan and they blip on the screen. If two people brave the pointless journey to the same planet, there will be 0 difficulty setting up a meetup there. "Hey let's meet on the landing pad of the base in the southern hemisphere" "OK"

 

[Carn82]

If two people brave the pointless journey to the same planet, there will be 0 difficulty setting up a meetup there. "Hey let's meet on the landing pad of the base in the southern hemisphere" "OK"

I'm not saying that that isnt possible. We could both meet on the moon, if we are able to get there and stay in touch. My arguments are more aimed at people who think it will be relatively easy to meet up with someone.

 

[RoadHazard]

I would really like to be proven wrong on NMS. The premise is like a childhood dream come true, but everything I've seen throughout the development has been checking all the wrong boxes.

It's definitely one of the most interesting releases in years, whichever way it turns out.


Well this hasn't exactly been a "went gold" thread for a good while now, really. It's just that due to the silly OT policy on NeoGAF, a random thread becomes the placeholder OT until an official one can go live.

What is it that you would have wanted this game to be that it is not? What boxes haven't they checked?

 

[SomTervo]

A classic SomTervo quote-stack.

Theres hyperdrive/FTL travel, I dont think it would take that long

The lobby "bubbles" have been discussed by devs, I really dont know why people dont think small-scale proximity-based co-op or PVP is possible with this set up

There are multiple tiers of hyperdrive/FTL. And every single jump will use up fuel.

Even if you and the other player are in quadrants right next to each other, it might take 10+ hours IRL to get a decent engine, and THEN hunt for fuel again and again, making multiple stops on various planets to gather resources, until you could meet up with them. The realities of galactic travel are going to be pretty brutal.

A narratively nonsensical sequence that completely destroys all pretense at legitimacy within a work of fiction?

It's a deus ex machina, but it's perfectly sensical and wraps up several plot points.

If I recall correctly, the center of a galaxy is usually a supermassive black hole. So why would you even want to go there?

IRL, yes, but this isn't IRL.

All we know is that the center is our objective. The game actively gives you a route to reach the center.

Why would they just plot you into the middle of a black hole?

So has there been any talk about their plans post-launch ? Like possible new features and maybe even content or ongoing support at the very least ? I'd hate it if the devs made their millions ( don't get me wrong, they totally deserve that for all their hard work ) and then pushed out NMS2 in 18 months with new features and content that they felt they had to cut out.

Yes, Murray is on-record saying he's a fan of Minecraft's model of ongoing, free, substantial content updates for the foreseeable future.

Obviously this might not happen and we'll have to see but they're interested in free post-launch support.

Somebody a few pages back even mentioned they said they would like to patch in big things players request - i.e. multiplayer is something they might patch in.

Can you? The previews of journalists on the freezing planet made it seem like they couldn't call their ships over. Or else they wouldn't have to survive in the blizzard, looking for shelter

It's confirmed that this is a piece of gear you will have to develop yourself. Sean said that way back in early interviews/videos. Just like the 'bypasser' he builds in the IGN first 21 minute video, you can also build a 'ship summoner'.

Well I would probably want to leave that planet. But that does sound awesome.

Yeah, that's actually the first thing I read that got me really stoked for the game. The previews generally seemed OK then I read that and I was like "fuck I want this".

So heres a question. Can you remotely call your ship to you?

Landing in a planet only to go explore and forget where your ship was / have to backtrack to it doesnt sound like fun :/

Last I heard was that was specifically not something you could do anymore. I believe calling your ship is only available at landing pads now.
I mean, if you could call your ship anywhere, what's the point of having to hack the panels to call your ship to a landing pad?

From Gamespot May 2016

Doesn't sound like ship summoning is in.

He definitely said this is possible back in early interviews - however he also implicated that it would be fairly high-end gear and wouldn't be easy to develop. You will probably still be at high risk of losing your ship and getting stuck even after many hours of play.

 

[diaspora]

I wasn't talking about the distance to get there, I even pointed out it'd be huge, and your 20 hops is waaay under estimating. We're probably talking more like hundreds, more if people want to coordinate at the beginning.

Not sure why you quoted the second part. There is no "IF." Planets have points of interests. You do a scan and they blip on the screen. If two people brave the pointless journey to the same planet, there will be 0 difficulty setting up a meetup there. "Hey let's meet on the landing pad of the base in the southern hemisphere" "OK"

Lmao, "hey guy, let's meet up on the southern half of the planet"

 

[Sande]

What is it that you would have wanted this game to be that it is not? What boxes haven't they checked?

A really big one for me is how unsatisfying the flying looks. Landing a frickin space ship on a planet should be the coolest thing ever but in the demos it just looks so underwhelming. If they don't nail core mechanics like that, then the game is on thin ice.

But this is really something I'd have to try out myself in the finished game.

 

[Galactic Fork]

Lmao, "hey guy, let's meet up on the southern half of the planet"

Geeeeeee, all the pictures of bases I've seen have been relatively small with a landing pad or 3 for ships, but hey, I guess you've seen one that takes up half of an entire planet.

 

[SomTervo]

Lmao, "hey guy, let's meet up on the southern half of the planet"

He's right about that actually. Hold a button and 'the base on the southern half of the planet' will get a big icon on it. Even deposits of resources will get that.

So once two players reach a planet, it will (hypothetically) be very easy to find each other. You'll each get the same waypoints after you ping the planet.

The time consuming and potentially near-impossible part of the whole idea is actually finding each other on the galactic scale. Find fuel > jump to a new system > find fuel > jump to system > upgrade engine > find fuel > jump to system > upgrade engine > - etc, where every single 'find fuel' or 'upgrade engine' part of the plan could take hours.

depends if game put yourselves in the same instance.

Ofc, this too. The game isn't built for multiplayer so it could be that you never see each other.

 

[bigDave]

depends if game put yourselves in the same instance.