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No MP in The Order: 1886, confirmed

Why were people expecting this to be like Gears when it was never described as such? Just because it's a third person shooter with four characters, doesn't mean it needs co-op or mp. I feel almost ashamed to be part of a generation of gamers that feel a game that is purely single player isn't worth full retail price. If you want to play a Gears game so badly, wait for the next one coming out on XB1. This is not the game for you.
 
lol@ the Gears expectations because it's a TPS, you guys are nuts
Isn't it a cover shooter? Makes sense that people would compare it to gears. The characters also don't look like they're going to jump around like Drake

btw. I prefer no coop. Doesn't limit the devs as much. Gears of war 3 was kind of annoying with all their level dividers where the entire team had to gather up before you could progress.
 
Well, I'll have enough single payer games to get through by that time; hell, I already do. I'm still desperate for a fun PS4 co-op game to play with my cousins and friends, though, and I'm sad this won't be it.

I'll get this for $15 one day once I work through Knack, Tomb Raider, AC IV, and soon to be infamous, which I'll also get for a low price since the aforementioned will take me many months to find the time to get through. This is ignoring my entire PS3 single player library from 2013 in which I finished no games.

It seems like I need the pressure from friends to keep up with them in co-op games to find the willpower to shoehorn game time into the little free time I get these days.

Married life and running two businesses sure takes a lot of game time off the table!
 
Isn't it a cover shooter? Makes sense that people would compare it to gears. The characters also don't look like they're going to jump around like Drake

btw. I prefer no coop. Doesn't limit the devs as much. Gears of war 3 was kind of annoying with all their level dividers where the entire team had to gather up before you could progress.

No one knows what it is. As far as I know the devs have described it as a "third person action adventure game".
 
I can't believe I'm seeing all these posts saying they are HAPPY that there is no multiplayer. I can understand indifferent if you don't like multiplayer games, but happy? What the hell? Tons of people enjoy playing co-op or competitive multiplayer and there is no evidence that putting in at least a competitive multiplayer mode would take away from the single player efforts.

Great. Now just announce that there will be no DLC unless it is a full blown expansion pack and we are good.

What am I reading?! Is this bizarro world?
 
And with that my hype for the game is gone and any chance of it becoming a known brand for Sony is as well. Awful decision.

Hyperbole?

The God of War series had no multiplayer until last year and still is a very well known brand.

You can clearly see in many of those gameplay screens that Gallahad is not always with each member of "The Order," this game is not meant to be a 4 player shooting gallery
 
No one knows what it is. As far as I know the devs have described it as a "third person action adventure game".
ah ok, that sounds really vague.

Why were people expecting this to be like Gears when it was never described as such? Just because it's a third person shooter with four characters, doesn't mean it needs co-op or mp. I feel almost ashamed to be part of a generation of gamers that feel a game that is purely single player isn't worth full retail price. If you want to play a Gears game so badly, wait for the next one coming out on XB1. This is not the game for you.
I guess people are a little spoiled. Many are saying that Titanfall shouldn't be sold for full price either.
 
Maybe it's because most games have a 4p coop/horde mode these days, but I can't help but feel a little cheated by that original trailer.

At least there's still Destiny.
 
I can't believe I'm seeing all these posts saying they are HAPPY that there is no multiplayer. I can understand indifferent if you don't like multiplayer games, but happy? What the hell? Tons of people enjoy playing co-op or competitive multiplayer and there is no evidence that putting in at least a competitive multiplayer mode would take away from the single player efforts.

Tacked on multiplayer modes "definitely" take a lot of resources away from the main game

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1660377/army_of_two_dev_multiplayer_tacked_on_for_reviewers.html
 
LOL whut? God of War? Uncharted? Ratchet and Clank? Sly Cooper?

God of War is an action game, no one expects MP
Ummm...Uncharted has multiplayer.
no one really knows what the other 2 games are and they are platformers

Shooters are expected to have MP and if they don't, they won't likely be acknowledged by the masses. It's cool that Sony wants to make a great SP game but this really isn't the time for that. MicroSoft has a couple exclusive MP experiences hitting by the end of the year and with that I predict Sony will lose the ground it had in the USA for the foreseeable future. I mean, unless they have something else planned. As I said, Awful decision. It is also my opinion that a cinematic shooter with no MP or Coop isnt worth $60
 
Okay day 1 confirmed for me.


Game better be 24 hours then. 22 of game play and two hours of cut scenes.

Hopefully all developers take this route.
 
Hey, that game at least had co-op

Except, you wrote this:

there is no evidence that putting in at least a competitive multiplayer mode would take away from the single player efforts.

People's main complaint is that this isn't a Gears of War/Left4Dead 4-player co-op shooter. Which would probably alter the gameplay/story of the game, and lessen the intensity of the more horror-centric levels, as well as extending the development time of the game.

It is not out of the question that Ready at Dawn could add multiplayer modes in the future a la GTA:Online
 
God of War is an action game, no one expects MP
Ummm...Uncharted has multiplayer.
no one really knows what the other 2 games are and they are platformers

Shooters are expected to have MP and if they don't, they won't likely be acknowledged by the masses. It's cool that Sony wants to make a great SP game but this really isn't the time for that. MS has a couple exclusive MP experiences hitting by the end of the year and with that I predict Sony will lose the ground it had in the USA for the foreseeable future. I mean, unless they have something else planned. As I said, Awful decision. It is also my opinion that a cinematic shooter with no MP or Coop isnt worth $60

Has Sony also lost ports of the 2 biggest shooters plus a new shooter from Bungie ?

It's hilarious you're predicting that SO ( who's devs recent games have been awful) and a potential H2 rehash are going to doom the PS4 in the US.....all because The Order has no MP
 
Great news as long as the single player game has a decent length to it. I miss the days when all games were designed with single player in mind.
 
Has Sony also lost ports of the 2 biggest shooters plus a new shooter from Bungie ?

It's hilarious you're predicting that SO ( who's devs recent games have been awful) and a potential H2 rehash are going to doom the PS4 in the US.....all because The Order has no MP

So you are just going to assume SO is going to be bad. Just because Fuse was bad doesn't mean IG are no longer a good developer that have made numerous great games. Halo 2 is the most beloved Halo and if the MP is remade right, people will want to play it. Top that off with Titanfall and MS is in a very good position right now. Certainly better than having nothing, which is looking like what Sony has right now. I'm not talking about multiplatform games because they don't matter when it comes down to a person choosing one console over the other, and this holiday season will see even more people doing that than the past.
 
I don't know why people were comparing this to Gears. I played Gears and didn't really like it all too much. I was expecting some co-op, but if the story is awesome enough it won't matter. :) There are so many games with MP that I never touched or played for a bit and didn't go back to. Not having MP is not a deal breaker for me.
 
So you are just going to assume SO is going to be bad. Just because Fuse was bad doesn't mean IG are no longer a good developer that have made numerous great games. Halo 2 is the most beloved Halo and if the MP is remade right, people will want to play it. Top that off with Titanfall and MS is in a very good position right now. Certainly better than having nothing, which is looking like what Sony has right now. I'm not talking about multiplatform games because they don't matter when it comes down to a person choosing one console over the other, and this holiday season will see even more people doing that than the past.
What are the prices of the two consoles going to be this holiday
 
I can't believe I'm seeing all these posts saying they are HAPPY that there is no multiplayer. I can understand indifferent if you don't like multiplayer games, but happy? What the hell? Tons of people enjoy playing co-op or competitive multiplayer and there is no evidence that putting in at least a competitive multiplayer mode would take away from the single player efforts.



What am I reading?! Is this bizarro world?

It's pretty simple. Games take money and time. The developers have a budget - let's say its $10 million. If they have to put $1 million of that to MP then it reduces the budget for the SP portion to $9 million. Therefore if you hear the game is SP only (and actually like SP games) then you're happy because you know 100% of the budget/effort is going into the portion you're looking forward to.

What evidence would you need about MP taking away from SP or do you imagine that MP modes just appear with zero effort and netcode writes itself.

Adding MP means either less money / time for SP or a bigger budget. Either way it has to have an impact it doesn't just appear out of nowhere like magic.

I mean I'd be interested in a L4D online coop element with this title but if the devs want to put 100% to SP that's their choice and I respect it. As consumers we get to decide whether to buy the final product or not and if the title being SP only doesn't appeal then the game's just not for you unfortunately (I get that doesn't stop people lusting after coop or MP in the game world shown so far it does seem intriguing).
 
I hope the single player is well done. I don't need multiplayer so its good that they don't waste time on something they don't want to do.
 
I'm calling shenanigans, this game looks absolutely perfect for co-op multi-player. It'll happen, I want that so bad :( My friends and I played the absolute hell out of Resistance 2's multi-player, and it was a blast! I would love for this to be the pinnacle of that experience.
 
It's pretty simple. Games take money and time. The developers have a budget - let's say its $10 million. If they have to put $1 million of that to MP then it reduces the budget for the SP portion to $9 million. Therefore if you hear the game is SP only (and actually like SP games) then you're happy because you know 100% of the budget/effort is going into the portion you're looking forward to.

What evidence would you need about MP taking away from SP or do you imagine that MP modes just appear with zero effort and netcode writes itself.

Adding MP means either less money / time for SP or a bigger budget. Either way it has to have an impact it doesn't just appear out of nowhere like magic.

I mean I'd be interested in a L4D online coop element with this title but if the devs want to put 100% to SP that's their choice and I respect it. As consumers we get to decide whether to buy the final product or not and if the title being SP only doesn't appeal then the game's just not for you unfortunately (I get that doesn't stop people lusting after coop or MP in the game world shown so far it does seem intriguing).

But also, no multiplayer typically means fewer sales as well. Gotta weight both sides of the equation.
 
But also, no multiplayer typically means fewer sales as well. Gotta weight both sides of the equation.

Of course - and we can see which answer ReadyAtDawn came to. Whether they made the right choice or not remains to be seen but we can see the choice they did make.

Clearly they feel they can generate enough sales - and to be fair the first Uncharted sold a lot before they added MP.
 
that sucks , I was expecting some kind of Horde Mode

I really don´t care about competitive Multiplayer but I love Co-op Modes , well looks like nobody enjoys MP games here :p
 
Bioshock 1 and Bioshock Infinite sold very well despite being single player only and also being linear games as well

This gets me PUMPED for this game for some reason lol. I really hope RAD can knock it out of the park on this one, I believe in their ability for sure. Anyone have an idea of how big the budget is for this game?
 
So how much are you thinking that will be swayed not by the price or the big multiplayer shooters but just the exclusive shooters with a multiplayer mode.

Depends on the reception of the big MP exclusive games. Halo is one of the biggest brands in gaming, Titanfall hype train is full force,Sunset Overdrive is still in the air, and Project Spark has the potential to be colossal if marketed right(MS has a good history with marketing). So far, things aren't looking too bad for MS.

I'm saying this as a PS4 owner who had no intentions on getting a xbox one. If Sony keeps making decisions like this, that will likely change.
 
People tend to forget that multiplayer is a community based game. What's the point if the effort you put tend to be so lackluster you essentially wasted funding on both development and the servers to run it?

Anybody heard of Starhawk...um... yeah, it had multiplayer, with essentially a tutorial-based single player and now they wonder why there is NO MP in a dedicated single-player experience game? SMH..
 
that sucks , I was expecting some kind of Horde Mode

I really don´t care about competitive Multiplayer but I love Co-op Modes , well looks like nobody enjoys MP games here :p

I love good MP games, I played Resistance 2's co-op modes for more than a year, I played Halo 3's MP everyday for an entire summer, I enjoyed the crap out of UC2 and UC3's MP and co-op modes.

However, not every game needs to have multiplayer or co-op in an age where practically every shooter is just morphing into a CoD clone with killstreaks, etc.

The future of always-online games scares me, and that's what 3rd party publishers (and Microsoft) are trying to thrust on the world with games like Destiny, The Division, Titanfall, and Fable: Legends.

To hear that a AAA action/adventure game with guns in it in this new generation is single player only gives me hope that the single-player offline game isn't going to die out by the end of 2014.
 
So you are just going to assume SO is going to be bad. Just because Fuse was bad doesn't mean IG are no longer a good developer that have made numerous great games. Halo 2 is the most beloved Halo and if the MP is remade right, people will want to play it. Top that off with Titanfall and MS is in a very good position right now. Certainly better than having nothing, which is looking like what Sony has right now. I'm not talking about multiplatform games because they don't matter when it comes down to a person choosing one console over the other, and this holiday season will see even more people doing that than the past.

I'm saying that because they have made 4 shooters that were all crap.

And 3rd parties have more of a bearing on console choice than you are giving them credit for. The superior multiplats was a massive feather in Microsoft's cap last gen, don't dismiss it now just cause it suits your narrative, especially when the new CoD, Battlefield and FIFA will outsell any and all first party titles released this year.
 
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