From the samples it looks like the phone is using the same terrible post processing that the lumia 920 uses. It really messes up the pictures.
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Nokia introduces 41MP Lumia 1020
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From the samples it looks like the phone is using the same terrible post processing that the lumia 920 uses. It really messes up the pictures.
The Faceless Master
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that's the cost of specialty devices like this... the Galaxy Note II launched at $299 on contract.
xValentine
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I got my ex note 2 for free on contract and its even way earlier than the US release.
ATT always over charge on niche phones, becuase they know other carriers are not offering them.
flamingotripod
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Of course its not better than your point and shoot, its a phone with a camera for god sakes. This shits all over current phones in terms of picture quality, it is actually insane that they could pack all this stuff into such a small interior.
thezerofire
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I like it. And thank goodness that grip thing is an add-on
having a different OS has nothing to do with being let down by the pictures., but yes, they look great for a phone... and thats the goal, but i, like tino, think the 808 looks better. I was expecting some more rival quality with a P&S, but i am still impressed to how well they pacakged the lens' and slimmed down the hump. I would have absolutely no problem carrying something like that around (as opposed to the 808, which I would never buy and use as a phone)... i applaud nokia for making the first phone with a fantastic camera that I would actually want to use
True. I've come around to the point where I am going to purchase it the moment it is available. Contract is up, so I might as well.
h wait nevermind, it's just an accsssory. My bad.
dorkimoe
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It still would be better than carrying around the note, or those tablet phones
Betta Lines
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Why is the camera hump so big? I mean... the actual optics are off to the right... is there a reason for all that volume to the left of it?
Anton Sugar
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We really need the OP to update.
Betta Lines
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I'm not talking about the accessory... I'm talking about the bit to the left of the optics.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
It's a big sensor. Plus the xenon flash and led flash is over there. Plus they probably wanted it to look even.
CrunchinJelly
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Blergh... Nokia need to lose the over-saturation and oil painting look.
Exactly. A sharp hump IMO is terrible. You have to have the hump for the features, spend your time designing a way to minimize both the look and size of the actual hump.
Betta Lines
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The sensor is surely directly behind the optics? You can put the flashes anywhere. It still doesn't explain the volume to the left.
Sample shots...pretty big, so not posting all:
http://cdn.conversations.nokia.com.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/large-sensor.jpg
http://cdn.conversations.nokia.com.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/bokeh.jpg
http://cdn.conversations.nokia.com....harpness-in-difficult-lighting-conditions.jpg
http://cdn.conversations.nokia.com....nt/uploads/2013/07/large-sensor-city-view.jpg
Let's start a GAF fund so we can buy this lady new sandals. At least a new right sandal.
Anton Sugar
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I don't really know what you mean by "volume to the left". The lens is in the middle of the circle in the middle of the phone. The flash is to the left on my Lumia 920, too.
Betta Lines
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VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
What are you talking about? Where else were they going to put the Nokia logo?
The Faceless Master
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apples to oranges.
US contracts are a set price for 24 months + upfront cost on phone of $0-$whatever
many other countries vary the monthly contract price based on the value of the phone
The Faceless Master
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it would look worse if they had a tiny raised sensor. the size of the bump is also a marketing point, it a design that gives the appearance of awesome. it says to consumers "look at DAT CAMERA BUMP, THIS SHIT TAKES GREAT FUCKING PICTURES!!!"
You'll understand when they do a teardown.
So 1020 is not as awesome as the galaxy camera. Samsung wins again.
Anton Sugar
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Am I hallucinating?
Oooooh, you're talking about when holding it horizontally. No idea, but seems like a strange thing to be worried about.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Maybe Nokia should just raise whatever part needs to be raised only and leave it at whatever awkward shape it produces. At least pazuzu will be happy.
Aesthetics. This is not difficult.
Though it won't really mean much, looking forward to dpreview's 1020 review.
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8083837371/review-nokia-808-pureview
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8083837371/review-nokia-808-pureview
The Faceless Master
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wait... what!?
Quite a few people I know are looking forward to the Samsung Zoom; they think its an awesome idea.
Nokia basically killed itself when they took in Windows.
Im not impressed with the pictures on 1020; even when their viewed smaller their full of weird graininess (dots).
VanMardigan
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Android or not, if you pick a galaxy camera over this you're an idiot.
vivftp
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Only Sony can save us Android fans now.
The Lumia 1020 vs. Honami will be quite interesting in the camera department. Same size sensor, but Honamis sensor will be a Jr. version of the one Sony is using on the new RX100 II meaning it is a BSI sensor. That alone should help it quite a bit for low light shots. Factor in the BIONZ processor, new JPEG compression algorithm, the G-lens, the image stabilization (unknown if it's digital or optical) and quite likely also having xenon and LED flash, and I think these two phones will be by far the leaders in the camera phone world.
As a phone though, Honami should obliterate this... OS preferences aside.
I must say I do like the grip accessory they've got going on with this phone.
How so? The 920 has won multiple design and function awards.
vivftp
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Well of course all we know about Honami are rumors from insiders, but it seems to be the overall more advanced device when we drop the cameras out of the battle:
Lumia 1020 vs. Honami
SCREEN 4.5" 1280x768 AMOLED vs. 5" 1920x1080 LCD - If Honamis screen is anything like the Z Ultra, the image quality should be class leading. I suppose we'll have to wait for more direct comparisons
RAM The same at 2 GB
PROCESSOR Dual Core Snapdragn S4 at 1.5 GHz vs. Quad core Snapdragon 800 at 2.3 GHz - Sure the different OS's make a difference in how they perform, but Honami will have the latest and greatest running under its hood
GRAPHICSAdreno 225 vs. Adreno 330
INTERNAL STORAGE32/64 GB internal memory vs. 16/32? GB internal memory - No one seems sure how much storage Honami will have but this is the best guess based on other Sony phones
EXTERNAL STORAGENo expandable memory vs. Micro SD up to 64 GB
BATTERYNon-Removable 2000 mAh battery vs. Non-Removable 3000 mAh battery - Again, the OS will make a difference here. Either way, Honami will have the battery capacity of the 1020 AND its optional grip combined.
RUGGEDNESSNo elemental resistance vs. Waterproof, Dustproof (IP55/58) and Shockproof
CLOUD STORAGE7GB free on SkyDrive vs. 50GB free on Box
Of course there's a lot more to a phone than just the hardware like the OS and the overall user experience. There is more to talk about for hardware and design, but I figured I'd just mention the stuff that the insiders seem more certain about. The cameras could be an entire comparison on their own, but best to leave that out until we get facts about Honamis camera to compare against the 1020.
Adreno 330 is still the latest?
This is one strange sentence.
Yeah, still looks like a phone pic. Showed the pics to colleagues and all they laughed. "as bad as HTC or Sony, S4 makes better pictures" No idea if true but...
you're a very noisy poster
Yes! I was planning on upgrading to this from my 920 but if the new camera is as bad as the old one I can skip this upgrade.
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