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Now I know how Steam users feel...

PS+ seems like a great deal until you realize you have to play all those multiplats on console :(

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For $27* I, on any PC on which I install Steam and log into my account, get to play the following:

Sanctum: Collection
Orcs Must Die! GOTY
Cities in Motion 2
Orcs Must Die! 2: Complete Pack
Garry's Mod
Serious Sam 3: BFE
Natural Selection 2
Sanctum 2
Magicka plus two of its DLC packs
Typing of the Dead
Zeno Clash
Zeno Clash 2
Killing Floor
Dwarfs!?
Conflict Desert Storm
Toki Tori
RUSH
EDGE
Toki Tori 2+
Deus Ex GOTY
YDKJ Pack
C&C Ultimate Collection
Medieval: Total War Collection

*I'm from the UK so some prices have been converted to dollars using a 1:1.6 exchange rate of £:$
Do note that I bought these in the past month or so and I chose to buy them*. In contrast, PS Plus gives me a specific set of games for my subscription fee.

The PS+ list looks more appealing tbh :x
 
I don't like playing old games and most of the sales on Steam are for old games.

Right now on sale as dailies or flashs: ARMA3, Reus, Contagion, SC:Blacklist, Amnesia:Pigs, Shadowrun, Antichamber, Shadow Warrior (excellent, everyone buy that!), Rogue Legacy (get that too), 7 Grand Steps, Tomb Raider, Cities XL and Castlevania:LoS, all from 2013, some not even 6 months old. The last one is of course old news for consoles though it ran like utter shit. And there have been a lot of other very recent games on sale, AAA and especially indies for really good prices, if it wins the vote Brothers will be 70% off. Others have said the same as you and I don't quite get it, if someone can't find newer interesting games to buy then I don't think it's the fault of the offers at hand. That's not saying you can't get better deals elsewhere, the competition is stronger than ever, see the new Humble Store and of course Amazon but this Steam sale hasn't been bad at all.

How is PS+ for PS4 doing? I've been curious what monthly games and content they'd have for PS4 since obviously there's a limited game selection and it doesn't have PS3 BC. Is it worth it if you're a PS4-only owner? If not, around when will you think it will be worth it?

Right now you get the very awesome Resogun and the not so awesome Contact. I would say that no, it's not worth it yet but you of course need it to play online.
 
Wow so much hate...@op I don't think it would have mattered if u put (to an extent) because it seems most users here just want to flaunt the fact they have hundreds if games sitting on there hdd as If it's some measure of success or something to be envious of, classic e-penis completion here I guess. Psn sales have been good, guacamelee for five bucks is good enough for me. It's not steam level cheap, but it's good, think that's all the op was trying to say...ppl can't even share genuine excitement, my goodness
 
Show me the ways of the red pill, Morpheus.

I get what you mean, though. I just got a bunch of PSN games. No where near Steam sales no. You do get the idea despite what some of the others are saying. My PC died, best bundle I got was THQ bundle. Like 14-15 games, $49.99 or more like 11-12 games with their expansions.

ALL of them were decent games. Saints Row 2, 3 Red Faction games, War Hammer 40k games, Company of Heroes, Darksiders 1, Titan Quest plus expansion and others I don't recall.
 
Gamesharing funded with discounted PSN credit.

Game sharing is actually account sharing, and of course you can do that with a Steam account. And it isn't limited to just two machines either. You can also legitimately account share using the family sharing feature which will launch soon.

And not only can you buy Steam wallet funds at a discount, you can earn money to buy games by selling items earned in F2P games. I bought a new full-priced game a couple of months ago by farming cards (i.e. leaving games running while I wasn't there) and clearing out my TF2 items.

All of that is way too much effort for me though, I'd rather just buy games for $5-10 a few months after release instead. Man, playing on consoles is too complicated :\
 
you know full well PSN gamesharing is for personal use and not meant for multiple people to buy a game to save money, and you are violating the PSN terms of service
It's true, it's technically against the TOS. On the other hand, it's not something Sony actively enforces, so unless you're buying accounts with stolen credit cards or something, you're not getting in trouble.

Game sharing is actually account sharing, and of course you can do that with a Steam account. And it isn't limited to just two machines either. You can also legitimately account share using the family sharing feature which will launch soon.

And not only can you buy Steam wallet funds at a discount, you can earn money to buy games by selling items earned in F2P games. I bought a new full-priced game a couple of months ago by farming cards (i.e. leaving games running while I wasn't there) and clearing out my TF2 items.
It's more than a bit better than passing a Steam account around - you don't have to fiddle around with logging in and out to play a game, you can earn trophies on your main account, you can have everyone playing the game at the same time (including multiplayer games), etc.

Getting an extra revenue stream from your Steam library is a very nice perk, but that's not exactly relevant to this line of discussion.
 
OP I am glad you got some good deals...however you have no clue how good steam is just yet. Here is an example...Trine 2 complete edition is normally $19.99 and it is currently 90% off and costs $1.99 on Steam.

That is a steam sale. Steam goes nuts. This past month new titles like Arkham Origins had deals where they were $20. I just paid on a flash sale to get Ducktales for around $4-ish and its a $14.99 game.

Welcome to Steam...it'll be here when you are.
 
Best thing I've ever bought in a Steam sale is still the Valve collection right before L4D came out.

I don't think I've ever been tempted to wait for anything else to be discounted.
 
It's true, it's technically against the TOS. On the other hand, it's not something Sony actively enforces, so unless you're buying accounts with stolen credit cards or something, you're not getting in trouble.

It's more than a bit better than passing a Steam account around - you don't have to fiddle around with logging in and out to play a game, you can earn trophies on your main account, you can have everyone playing the game at the same time (including multiplayer games), etc.

Getting an extra revenue stream from your Steam library is a very nice perk, but that's not exactly relevant to this line of discussion.

Well when the Steam sharing feature comes in the same rules will apply, with the exception of not being able to play simultaneously, but you can share with more than a single machine.

I mentioned the Steam wallet funds perk for the same reason you brought up game sharing and discount PSN cards, it's a way of getting games cheaper than the listed price. Neither is technically relevant to the discussion, which is about comparing the discounts PSN offer during sales with those on Steam. So I guess we've reached a dead-end on both topics as they relate to the thread.
 
PSN sales have become pretty decent, it's absolutely nowhere near the same level of constant promotions and evergreen status that most PC games go through nowadays, but it's at least a thing now. Issues would be that they're not consistent enough, and the themework is often very limited so that the majority of the store sadly much just remains in a state of rot. What I wouldn't give to see some of those huge, store wide, service vs service holiday wars where I could pick up a ton of older games in bundles and for cheap. Especially PSP stuff, that would be heavenly.

If Amazon is offering PSN crap, they need to make like their PC side and send reps to shake down all the little publishers and get us some deals goin'. I doubt PSN quite works like Steamworks though and the cut likely isn't near as big so the incentive may not be there for them.

One more bit, although it's certainly not as big of a deal as say, Xbox Live, since the service is quite sound but a lot of the deals being stuck behind the PS+ paywall is kind of blargh as well.
 
A further advantage of steam has to be that the whole backwards compatibility thing. I'll be able to play every steam game I have now on any machine I have going forward in the future, some of them probably will require a bit of tinkering as operating systems and hardware changes but at least they're not lost in the same way as my PS+ PS3 games will be on my PlayStation 4.

I have PS+ at the moment and have to admit, get a little bummed when a game that's out on PC is announced for the month, I'd much rather if they focused on the PS3/Console exclusive games like Catherine or Okami HD. On the other hand, I think plus is invaluable on the Vita. Getting 2 new games a month to play when commuting or out and about is fantastic, it has me using the console far more than any console since maybe the gameboy colour.
 
The PS+ list looks more appealing tbh :x

My list can be changed at will to cater to the taste of others and still be better value than PS+ because Steam/Amazon/GMG et al sales are that good. Also note that I only spent $27 not $50 so there's room to add what you want before substituting games to make a package that appeals to you.
 
So for years I've heard and read about the mythos of Steam sales, the concept of "How can I play all these games?" With the recent 12 Deals of Xmas by Sony I now understand that feeling exactly.

They need to make this kind of thing as ritual as it is on Steam. They will make a fortune and push people towards digital.

You have no idea OP
the '12 deals of christmas' have been rubbish lol
high prices, only 12 sales (almost no sales for vita), most of which for crap games

It doesn't even begin to compare to steam sales, as ps3 and vita owner I'm dissapointed (but not surprised)

In my defence this is my first experience of this kind of thing as I don't usually buy from PSN and I wouldn't have known if not for GAF.

Also ACIV PS4 at £28/£30 ffs!
that's more than most pc games cost the day they release...
standards and expectations are so low on consoles:\

I can say the same about PC's lack of Naughty Dog.
see above, but also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave
It's really sad when autoplatforming 10 hour 3rd person shootbangs with laggy controls are the best a platform apparently has to offer, if you'd said dragon's dogma I'd have given you a point there, but you had to mention some AAA tripe:p

Console only gamers can't seem to grasp that to pc only gamers ND games are as meaningless as total war/starcraft/dota/natural selection/civ are to a console only gamers
Personally the last ND game I actually enjoyed was crash team racing, uncharted series plays like crap
 
It's true, it's technically against the TOS. On the other hand, it's not something Sony actively enforces, so unless you're buying accounts with stolen credit cards or something, you're not getting in trouble.

Sony reduced the number of machines from 5 to 2 because people were sharing accounts to avoid buying games instead of using this feature personally i.e. to access one's collection on various devices owned by the same person. This means that Sony does enforce it to an extent.
 
I thought you could run into just as good or better deals on psn throughout the year anyway, the majority of the xmas stuff doesn't seem that great.
 
Why the fuck does PS+ only gives me 20c discounts or slightly more on games while US users get half price on top of the discount?
 
For $27* I, on any PC on which I install Steam and log into my account, get to play the following:

Sanctum: Collection
Orcs Must Die! GOTY
Cities in Motion 2
Orcs Must Die! 2: Complete Pack
Garry's Mod
Serious Sam 3: BFE
Natural Selection 2
Sanctum 2
Magicka plus two of its DLC packs
Typing of the Dead
Zeno Clash
Zeno Clash 2
Killing Floor
Dwarfs!?
Conflict Desert Storm
Toki Tori
RUSH
EDGE
Toki Tori 2+
Deus Ex GOTY
YDKJ Pack
C&C Ultimate Collection
Medieval: Total War Collection

*I'm from the UK so some prices have been converted to dollars using a 1:1.6 exchange rate of £:$
Do note that I bought these in the past month or so and I chose to buy them*. In contrast, PS Plus gives me a specific set of games for my subscription fee.

Look at the games I listed and then what you listed. My list includes mostly of blockbuster titles from this year something that even on Steam its difficult to buy at a cheap price.

Also whats a humble bundle?
 
Look at the games I listed and then what you listed. My list includes mostly of blockbuster titles from this year something that even on Steam its difficult to buy at a cheap price.

Also whats a humble bundle?

http://blog.humblebundle.com/post/58256397346/introducing-the-humble-origin-bundle
this is a humble bundle, "all that" for a dollar and you get to keep it too, no perpetual rental fee to have the privilege to keep playing it

and look it's all AAA EA tripe which you think is so important
 
I don't feel it anymore, I just continue giving middle finger to Steam Sales these days. Those sales are toxic! Toxic I said! *glance at backlog
 
january sale for eu is now up, that is more a taste of what a steam sale is like OP ,not like the shit that was the christmas one
edit: for some games at least, still lots of 20 euro + prices in there<.<
 
OP I am glad you got some good deals...however you have no clue how good steam is just yet. Here is an example...Trine 2 complete edition is normally $19.99 and it is currently 90% off and costs $1.99 on Steam.

That is a steam sale. Steam goes nuts. This past month new titles like Arkham Origins had deals where they were $20. I just paid on a flash sale to get Ducktales for around $4-ish and its a $14.99 game.

Welcome to Steam...it'll be here when you are.
Check the previous pages, ps+ deals had hotline Miami for the same as trine 2 and other good deals. Their have been better sales on psn then the xmas one
 
I've seen sales you people wouldn't believe. 75% off new releases from the biggest publishers. I've watched franchise packs drop into single digits. All those sales will be lost in backlogs, like tears in rain. Time...to buy...
 
I'm playing CS:GO purely in hope that I can get a drop to sell so I have enough money to get Max Payne 3 for free.

The true PC experience.
 
I'm playing CS:GO purely in hope that I can get a drop to sell so I have enough money to get Max Payne 3 for free.

The true PC experience.

I know that feel,i am trying to do the same thing,free money is great(and at least CS:GO is fantastic).
I think i have made at least 10euros from cards past 2 weeks.
 
I'm playing CS:GO purely in hope that I can get a drop to sell so I have enough money to get Max Payne 3 for free.

The true PC experience.

How to make free money in CS:GO:
1. Buy 10 Carbon Fiber skins for the Bizon off the market for about 0.40&#8364; each.
2. Trade them up via the ingame contract thing for an AK47 Black Laminated skin or some shitty P90 skin.
3. Get lucky and get the AK skin and sell it for around 7&#8364;.


IT'S THAT EASY
 
Oh come on..

Cause we dont see this from console fanboys at all.. ever. Id hate to be a Xbone or Wii U fan at this point it seems like none stop down talking from Sony Fans, yet those Sony fans cant take any of the same treatment from PC gamers. In the end its all stupid fanboy shit.. its just harder to argue against PC stuff when it comes to performance, backlog and sales.

Truth bombs being dropped right here; no surprise that the comment was completely ignored.
 
Console only gamers can't seem to grasp that to pc only gamers ND games are as meaningless as total war/starcraft/dota/natural selection/civ are to a console only gamers
Personally the last ND game I actually enjoyed was crash team racing, uncharted series plays like crap

I find this paragraph amusing. The games you list console owners being uninterested in, are probably among the most interesting to console gamers, because they cannot have them. Who would not want Total War and a decent Civ game on consoles? The answer is people that do not know what they are missing.

That same answer applies to ND games. They have characterisation you will not find on PC. They have a mix of gameplay you will not find on PC. Some people just do not know what they are missing. You are entitled to your opinion, but you seem to be marking other people with it, which is a mistake. I game PC, and I love Uncharted as much as Civ 5.
 
Look at the games I listed and then what you listed. My list includes mostly of blockbuster titles from this year something that even on Steam its difficult to buy at a cheap price.

Also whats a humble bundle?

All the games you list that are available for PC can/could be bought cheap on Steam. Amalur is an exception, no sales because of rights issues. And EA now has Origin but they're still doing sales of their older stuff all the time. Also "mostly of blockbuster titles from this year" is not true at all, Guacamelee and MGR are from 2013 and that's it. "Mostly blockbuster" is debatable too. I mean Malice?

And honest question, how can someone posting on GAF, hardcore console gamer or not, not know about Humbe Bundles?
 
The funny part is that a a bunch of people are arguing who gets to pay slightly less for all the games they end up never playing.
 
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