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[B!TCH]

Got to love GAF.

BTW, I've seen 3 million dollar houses. I still don't think you can have an apartment 1/10th as nice as this.

Depends on what your priorities are and where you live. Where I live a penthouse, with a doorman, concierge, maid service and amenities (gym, pool, screening room, etc) are favorable to living in a house.

 

[diffusionx]

Got to love GAF.

BTW, I've seen 3 million dollar houses. I still don't think you can have an apartment 1/10th as nice as this.

Where do you live? In Manhattan, a 3 million dollar apartment is quite average and unspectacular.

 

[Pterion]

Depends on what your priorities are and where you live. Where I live a penthouse, with a doorman, concierge, maid service and amenities (gym, pool, screening room, etc) are favorable to living in a house.

You can have your own pool/gym/tennis court with a 3 million dollar house, at least here in Canada. I'm no royalty, so I couldn't care less about concierge/maid service and doorman, but I guess a lot of people care about that.

 

[Lord Error]

You have a job, a wife, and (presumably) neither of you are dying of some horrible sickness that's eating you from the inside out. If not being more rich is your only worry, you have no f'n idea how incredibly happy you should feel.

 

[radiantdreamer]

lol @ all you people downplaying being rich.

It's more like trying to understand the other side of the picture.

I disagree that money doesn't make you happy, but I agree that your base feelings and emotions and life's complexities still remain with you no matter how much money you make.

You will still get angry at something, envious of someone, or happy that you got a new thing, or sad that you lost something.

Money is just a measuring degree of what that thing is, be it your favorite little honda, or your favorite red ferrari you drive on Wednesday. It's all about how much you value it personally.

Money, and anything beyond necessity can only bring temporary happiness, that's for certain. But damn, I like getting what I want!

 

[Justin Bailey]

It's just a brochure. You have no idea what this guys life is like. People always talk up their accomplishments and downplay their failures. That's why it might always seem like everyone is doing better than you.

Take solace in the fact that, being human, your peers are probably just as insecure and vulnerable as you are. Realize that, and then work to overcome it.

Once you figure out how to do that, let me know.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

We should all be jealous of Robertsan. He was a model and now works for some online bookie site and makes a shit ton of money. He's good looking and is always traveling around the world.

 

[jaypah]

How long will the Playstation 4 make you happy though? The first few weeks, then every couple of months when a new game comes out that you're interested in? There's nothing wrong with that it's just not really what people mean by happiness, in that it isn't a sustainable state, the shine on that PS4 will wear off afterall.

but my happiness in life comes from living my life the way that i do. getting games makes me happy, anticipating games makes me happy, reading about them makes me happy, all of which costs money aside from the anticipation (that's free). but even then my anticipation comes from wanting a game for a console that i own, so money contributed there too.

i understand about it not being a constant state of happiness but who is in a constant state of happiness? family can make you happy but losing a family member will make you sad. animals and nature can make you happy but when they get fucked up it'll make you sad. no happiness is constant. it all happens in chunks that can either last really long or be short-lived. for me my happiness comes from both the free things and shit that i buy. for someone else money may not be a big contributing factor towards happiness. i think that for me it is.

 

[Particle Physicist]

It was a regular day just as always, and I was about to go to work just like I normally do, and found in my mailbox a real estate brochure, which I was about to discard as I normally would. But I decided to just quickly glance through it. It was pretty fancy, like those furniture brochures.

I thought "wow, whomever this guy is, is overdoing it." and I glanced at the photo of the guy, and I was shocked to see that it was a high school classmate I hadn't seen since graduation!

I looked more thoroughly at the ad, and this guy was selling 4 million-dollar apartments, houses, and other properties. I looked at his photo again, and it was definitely him, but much more refined than when I knew him.

And here I am, going to the grind, doing a job (that I do like), and nowhere near as successful as him. To think that lives could differ that greatly just blew my mind.

For 12 years of my life, I've got nothing really to show for it, other than my name on several mediocre games.

It started spiraling out of control when I started imagining this guy's lifestyle, what his work life was like, and what he considers his priorities, what his love life is like, if he's married, and if he married one of his rich clients.

Obviously I was blowing it way out of proportion with my imagination, but regardless, all it's done is made me feel like a loser.

GAF, any advice to lift my mood? I'm depending on you GAF!

portfolios and shit like that are extremely misleading. people exaggerate like crazy. i doubt his life is much different than yours.

 

[RadioHeadAche]

It was a regular day just as always, and I was about to go to work just like I normally do, and found in my mailbox a real estate brochure, which I was about to discard as I normally would. But I decided to just quickly glance through it. It was pretty fancy, like those furniture brochures.

I thought "wow, whomever this guy is, is overdoing it." and I glanced at the photo of the guy, and I was shocked to see that it was a high school classmate I hadn't seen since graduation!

I looked more thoroughly at the ad, and this guy was selling 4 million-dollar apartments, houses, and other properties. I looked at his photo again, and it was definitely him, but much more refined than when I knew him.

And here I am, going to the grind, doing a job (that I do like), and nowhere near as successful as him. To think that lives could differ that greatly just blew my mind.

For 12 years of my life, I've got nothing really to show for it, other than my name on several mediocre games.

It started spiraling out of control when I started imagining this guy's lifestyle, what his work life was like, and what he considers his priorities, what his love life is like, if he's married, and if he married one of his rich clients.

Obviously I was blowing it way out of proportion with my imagination, but regardless, all it's done is made me feel like a loser.

GAF, any advice to lift my mood? I'm depending on you GAF!

You're far more successful than I.

 

[Google]

You're far more successful than I.

You must be fucking unsuccessful then!

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Watch GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS and feel better about yourself.

 

[Timedog]

it is very possible.

But what does that even mean? 4 million monthly? yearly? the value of the apartment itself is worth 4 million?

I was assuming it's monthly, because whenever someone talks about the price of their apartment, they talk about the monthly rent. To spend 48 million per year on an apartment you'd have to be the ruler of an OPEC nation or some shit.

 

[HamPster PamPster]

Anyone else have stories to share?

Aww man this threads got me depressed now t0o! (thats what I get for looking at gaf during work!)

I know the feeling (not the jealousy, but the "coasting")

It seems like we're both in that point of life where it feels like you got nothing to do but coast on by.

I mean you're too old to really start over but you're too inexperienced to switch things up. Any saving you do will be for decades later but spending now seems pointless since free time is lacking

Sort of sucks knowing how "average" things will be from here on out. Not that average is a bad life, in fact its pretty good - just sort of boring I suppose

Nothing to do but post on gaf and watch the kids grow.

 

[shuri]

a 4 million appartement better come with state of the art audio visual hardware, and a freaking harem that you pick from a victoria's secret catalog.

Damn

 

[gantz85]

Been feeling like shit the past 3 weeks from discontent, desire and inability to fulfill that desire.. reading this thread helped alot.

 

[LuCkymoON]

Radiant I think you are looking at this wrong; this could be your chance to renew an old friendship. You should take the time to write him a letter congratulating him on his noted success. This could lead to new and interesting things for you.
If you do write to him, do not downplay your own life. As long as you are doing what you want to do with your own life then there is nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[ElNino]

But what does that even mean? 4 million monthly? yearly? the value of the apartment itself is worth 4 million?

I'm assuming that apartment means a condo in this case. So it would be a $4 million dollar condo, which while certainly very expensive are not that uncommon in large metropolitan cities.

 

[PapiShasho]

Money will NEVER give you happiness

Don't believe this.

 

[the year 20XX]

That dude has zero job stability and is quite likely to be in debt already to maintain his lifestyle. If he loses his job, he's going to crash HARD.

 

[Tom Penny]

I had more fun when I wasn't rich. It's overrated.

 

[Rewrite]

Cheer up as I swim in my bathtub of money. Mwuahahaha!

Spoiler

Kidding. I'm broke as fuck even with 2 jobs

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

Welcome to real life, enjoy your stay. It sucks when you realise that the game industry is worthless, isnt it? I'm happy that dreamed for me real quick.

Why is the games industry worthless? It seems like there are plenty of people making decent money in it, and even if it's a grind, you're involved in making things.

I've never worked a day in the industry, but I'm thinking about getting into it, educate me.

 

[lil smoke]

That dude has zero job stability and is quite likely to be in debt already to maintain his lifestyle. If he loses his job, he's going to crash HARD.

Or maybe he's been saving money to put his kids thru school? How the F do you know?

Why does that guy have to be the villian? I don't get it. Seems that on GAF people are bitter towards successful people, but relate to and defend failure?

Maybe that attitude is why people aren't getting anywhere but sit on their ass complaining about it.

 

[Drey1082]

A major pothead I went to HS with owns a mortgage brokerage company he started a few years ago. I haven't talked to him in a year or so, but he was doing pretty well for himself. Even when he was getting baked every day, he wrote in my yearbook that I was the biggest under-achiever that he had ever met. =\

I can almost guarantee he's not doing quite as well now.......

 

[ScientificNinja]

It was a regular day just as always, and I was about to go to work just like I normally do, and found in my mailbox a real estate brochure, which I was about to discard as I normally would. But I decided to just quickly glance through it. It was pretty fancy, like those furniture brochures.

I thought "wow, whomever this guy is, is overdoing it." and I glanced at the photo of the guy, and I was shocked to see that it was a high school classmate I hadn't seen since graduation!

I looked more thoroughly at the ad, and this guy was selling 4 million-dollar apartments, houses, and other properties. I looked at his photo again, and it was definitely him, but much more refined than when I knew him.

And here I am, going to the grind, doing a job (that I do like), and nowhere near as successful as him. To think that lives could differ that greatly just blew my mind.

For 12 years of my life, I've got nothing really to show for it, other than my name on several mediocre games.

It started spiraling out of control when I started imagining this guy's lifestyle, what his work life was like, and what he considers his priorities, what his love life is like, if he's married, and if he married one of his rich clients.

Obviously I was blowing it way out of proportion with my imagination, but regardless, all it's done is made me feel like a loser.

GAF, any advice to lift my mood? I'm depending on you GAF!

Dude, get a grip: no matter how successful you think he is, he's in sales. Now, no offence to anyone who actually works in sales - some people have the gift of the gab and it's a career that really works for them - but I sit across from a whole department of them, I've even dabbled a bit in it, and believe me it is one of the most infuriating and frustrating professions I can imagine. It doesn't matter if you're selling $4 million houses, $40,000 cars or $4 pop guns, these guys pitch the same thing over and over and over and get rejected hundreds of times by people they're pretending to maintain a professional/pseudo-social relationship with before they score a single sale. Unless they score a director's role, they're rarely that rich; or they've been able to score a steady commission per month. Whatever it is, getting ahead in sales is just as hard as it is in any other profession.

The real issue here is what you want in life. Do you want to live in a house? Get married? Have kids? Figure out how it's done within your own life and quit comparing against a person who's chosen a completely different path from your own.

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

Dude, get a grip: no matter how successful you think he is, he's in sales. Now, no offence to anyone who actually works in sales - some people have the gift of the gab and it's a career that really works for them - but I sit across from a whole department of them, I've even dabbled a bit in it, and believe me it is one of the most infuriating and frustrating professions I can imagine. It doesn't matter if you're selling $4 million houses, $40,000 cars or $4 pop guns, these guys pitch the same thing over and over and over and get rejected hundreds of times by people they're pretending to maintain a professional/pseudo-social relationship with before they score a single sale. Unless they score a director's role, they're rarely that rich; or they've been able to score a steady commission per month. Whatever it is, getting ahead in sales is just as hard as it is in any other profession.

Nah, real estate's not like that. It's got a ton of frustrations associated with it, usually associated with nervous people being completely insane when it comes to dealing with spending that much money, and to be really successful you've got to work 6-7 days a week, but I've got a relative in it and pretty much everyone in his office pulls down 6 figures. And you're not really pitching the same thing hundreds of times, you'll have an open house, you'll have showings, but really it's the house that's doing the selling, not your pitch. A house is not an impulse purchase.

 

[NintendosBooger]

Or maybe he's been saving money to put his kids thru school? How the F do you know?

Why does that guy have to be the villian? I don't get it. Seems that on GAF people are bitter towards successful people, but relate to and defend failure?

Maybe that attitude is why people aren't getting anywhere but sit on their ass complaining about it.

Post of the Year.

This is typical GAF. I was demonized in my homeless thread despite the fact that *I* was victimized by a leech of society and criminal whose only contribution to society is depositing large volumes of urine on taxpayers' street corners. Somehow *I* had become the bad guy and not the freeloading vermin that terrorized my neighborhood.

 

[newsguy]

I know exactly how you feel OP. It's hard not to feel that way when you see a successful classmate years later, but you know what, in the end you can't be down because we all choose our paths. If I had stuck with business and not (fucking shitty) journalism, I'd probably be in a much better financial situation. That said, you have to man the fuck up in this life. If you got it bad, it's no one's fault but your own. The older you get the more you realise that this world can be cruel as fuck. Also, remember that 90% of people don't want to hear your problems, and 10% are glad you have them, so nut up and get on that hamster wheel.

 

[Rewrite]

Post of the Year.

This is typical GAF. I was demonized in my homeless thread despite the fact that *I* was victimized by a leech of society and criminal whose only contribution to society is depositing large volumes of urine on taxpayers' street corners. Someone *I* had become the bad guy and not the freeloading vermin that terrorized my neighborhood.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[bengraven]

Radiantdreamer, you're working in an industry I love. You're one of my fucking heroes.

Post of the Year.

This is typical GAF. I was demonized in my homeless thread despite the fact that *I* was victimized by a leech of society and criminal whose only contribution to society is depositing large volumes of urine on taxpayers' street corners. Someone *I* had become the bad guy and not the freeloading vermin that terrorized my neighborhood.

Maybe it's because of your winning fucking personality.

 

[ScientificNinja]

Nah, real estate's not like that. It's got a ton of frustrations associated with it, usually associated with nervous people being completely insane when it comes to dealing with spending that much money, and to be really successful you've got to work 6-7 days a week, but I've got a relative in it and pretty much everyone in his office pulls down 6 figures. And you're not really pitching the same thing hundreds of times, you'll have an open house, you'll have showings, but really it's the house that's doing the selling, not your pitch. A house is not an impulse purchase.

Still sounds like sales to me! Did your relative happen to mention all the call-backs, the people who don't return calls, the people who dick around on their interest, stupid clients who change their minds, people who want to vary the terms of the agreement, having to answer the same question about the same properties to different people, the pressure of making quota, etc etc etc? I think you've only been fed the highlights of the job, my friend.

And let's talk relative happiness here: I don't know about you, but I don't think it'd be very hard to pull six figures if it meant working 6-7 days a week. Some people just happen to value the time they can spend on loved ones and themselves over the weekend.

Edit:

Why does that guy have to be the villian? I don't get it. Seems that on GAF people are bitter towards successful people, but relate to and defend failure?

Excellent point. This is one of the things I will always defend Americans for (and what many other cultures don't seem to understand): there is absolutely nothing wrong with making money and being successful. If you're jealous of someone else's success, then man the fuck up and figure out a way of doing it yourself.

 

[Jamesfrom818]

Post of the Year.

This is typical GAF. I was demonized in my homeless thread despite the fact that *I* was victimized by a leech of society and criminal whose only contribution to society is depositing large volumes of urine on taxpayers' street corners. Someone *I* had become the bad guy and not the freeloading vermin that terrorized my neighborhood.

Okay the jig is up. Who's alt are you?

 

[Tim the Wiz]

Post of the Year.

This is typical GAF. I was demonized in my homeless thread despite the fact that *I* was victimized by a leech of society and criminal whose only contribution to society is depositing large volumes of urine on taxpayers' street corners. Someone *I* had become the bad guy and not the freeloading vermin that terrorized my neighborhood.

No, you were demonized because of your not-so-winning personality and post history. However, I do agree that to automatically assume that this more successful guy is living a less rewarding life is immature, narrow thinking. No social class (rich, middle class, poor, etc.) holds exclusive rights over happiness.

 

[Crayon]

...

nothing can ever make you more or less important that that guy in the brochure.

nothing.
NO. THING.

whatever despair you are feeling is a symptom of you not appreciating your inherent dignity as a human being. he might be feeling the same way and his money would do him no good but to illustrate that money cannot fix this condition.

 

[The_Joint]

Okay. Looks like the general consensus is in with GAF advice, and this is what I will be taking to heart:

1. Don't feel bad about yourself. There are always people doing worse than you.
2. Rethink your life a bit to improve it, but don't change it so much that it becomes something you didn't want.
3. If you love your job, and have a good wife, and a good hobby, you're set.
4. If you are good at what you do, and are doing your best, it'll all be good.
5. Suck it up, and stop whining, man up and do your best.

Anyone else have stories to share?

There was this guy I knew in High School. He was a thespian. For the school talent show he was a mime. He was frequently sited sitting in the smoking court reading a script and muttering to himself. In an odd way he was so low on the social totem pole that even the DnD crowd made fun of him.

Now he works in Hollywood and at least every year, sometimes several times a month, I'm reminded of what someone I once knew has achieved. So far he's been in movies with (among others) these people:

Robert Duvall
Matt Dillon
Burt Reynolds
Sean Penn
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Elliott Gould
Warren Beatty
George Clooney
William H. Macey
Al Pacino
Michael Douglas
Catherine Zeta-Jones
Julia Roberts
Jennifer Lopez
Halle Berry
Tim Robbins
Ving Rhames
Brendan Fraser
Benicio del Toro
Dennis Quaid
Matt Damon
John Travolta
John C. Reilly
John Voight
Brad Pitt
Denzel Washington
Nicholas Cage
Bernie Mac

It's always good to keep things in perspective. He is so far up the socioeconomic ladder from me that I find it interesting to personally realize that these people actually do come from somewhere real and knowable (by myself, that is).

 

[Jamesfrom818]

There was this guy I knew in High School. He was a thespian. For the school talent show he was a mime. He was frequently sited sitting in the smoking court reading a script and muttering to himself. In an odd way he was so low on the social totem pole that even the DnD crowd made fun of him.

Now he works in Hollywood and at least every year, sometimes several times a month, I'm reminded of what someone I once knew has achieved. So far he's been in movies with (among others) these people:

Robert Duvall
Matt Dillon
Burt Reynolds
Sean Penn
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Elliott Gould
Warren Beatty
George Clooney
William H. Macey
Al Pacino
Michael Douglas
Catherine Zeta-Jones
Julia Roberts
Jennifer Lopez
Halle Berry
Tim Robbins
Ving Rhames
Brendan Fraser
Benicio del Toro
Dennis Quaid
Matt Damon
John Travolta
John C. Reilly
John Voight
Brad Pitt
Denzel Washington
Nicholas Cage
Bernie Mac

It's always good to keep things in perspective. He is so far up the socioeconomic ladder from me that I find it interesting to personally realize that these people actually do come from somewhere real and knowable (by myself, that is).

You went to school with Kevin Bacon?

 

[ScientificNinja]

One guy I knew from highschool was a couple of steps from being typical white trash. Ten years later I see him on the news as part of a contingent of hippies storming the bridge of a Japanese whaling ship.

Another guy I knew in highschool left early to attend a specialist school for ballet and acting. I ran into him at the local mall last year - he manages the sales floor in the electronics division. He lives very close to a college campus, he has three kids with his Phillipino wife and he's fucking bald.

Five years ago I ran into my old physics teacher from highschool. The guy was never particularly nice to me and I was no fan of his. He was driving a bus.

Another friend from highschool wasn't a particularly big stand-out in anything, apart from being a great tennis player. After highschool he became an IT consultant, moved to Hong Kong for a couple of years, came back; he's now married with two kids, drives a Mercedes AMG, lent his Audi A4 to my best friend for his wedding - and he STILL looks like any old average joe!

 

[xsarien]

You're jealous of a real estate agent?

This.

He goes to work and pushes paper all day to sell a house in a market that's likely being brutal to him.

You're helping to make video games. I'd take that over the former in a second.

 

[The_Joint]

You went to school with Kevin Bacon?

Naw. I'm not from Philly. :lol

 

[Replicant]

Okay. Looks like the general consensus is in with GAF advice, and this is what I will be taking to heart:

1. Don't feel bad about yourself. There are always people doing worse than you.
2. Rethink your life a bit to improve it, but don't change it so much that it becomes something you didn't want.
3. If you love your job, and have a good wife, and a good hobby, you're set.
4. If you are good at what you do, and are doing your best, it'll all be good.
5. Suck it up, and stop whining, man up and do your best.

Anyone else have stories to share?

Having good set of friends can tremendously improve the outlook of one's life. I find that life is far more enjoyable when you are surrounded with people that you like to be with.

 

[jonnybryce]

It happens. Just be happy with your own life. Why does he amount to more than you because he has more money? Why are we basing "losers" and "winners" on income?

I can't take the way society thinks. This kid can have 15 stds, no friends (or friends that use him and he knows it but has to roll with it just to have company), and never be able to find a woman he's convinced loves him for him, but since he has the status of millionaire he's better than you?

It's awesome to have money. It's awesome to be rich. But it doesn't mean you suck if you're not.

 

[Zoltrix]

Buy a puppy

 

[radiantdreamer]

Buy a puppy

LOL! thanks.

Post of the Year.

This is typical GAF. I was demonized in my homeless thread despite the fact that *I* was victimized by a leech of society and criminal whose only contribution to society is depositing large volumes of urine on taxpayers' street corners. Somehow *I* had become the bad guy and not the freeloading vermin that terrorized my neighborhood.

Sounds like my post has stirred up some old history on this board... sorry about that!

Why does that guy have to be the villian? I don't get it. Seems that on GAF people are bitter towards successful people, but relate to and defend failure?

Maybe that attitude is why people aren't getting anywhere but sit on their ass complaining about it.

I think it might just be this board. Similar people who are attracted to certain things tend to congregate in the same areas, and therefore share similar views on certain issues, or are in similar situations, and sometimes as a result, bring out the same emotions.

People can relate to the situation because they themselves might be in the same situation. Especially when it comes to money, as most of us don't really have any, be it on this forum, or for the rest of the world.

Indeed, that attitude is sort of a result or cause in a rolling vicious cycle within us that are complaining, but are too demotivated to do something about it.

Radiantdreamer, you're working in an industry I love. You're one of my fucking heroes.

Thanks for the ego pat. I'm not here looking for that, but I do appreciate it. I hope someday I'll be making higher acclaimed games than average ones though...

 

[favouriteflavour]

Alot of people from my high school are doctors, lawyers, dentists ect. I am happy enough being an engineer though. Its not glamorous or that well paying but I like the place where I work and thats enough for me.

 

[radiantdreamer]

You're jealous of a real estate agent?

I was thinking about scanning in his brochure and putting it up here on GAF just to put it in perspective, but from seeing how other "pics or it didn't happen" threads end up...

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

Repeat after me.

A person's success in life is not determined solely by wealth.

That's the great lie that's been sold to this society to make it such a fucked up materialistic one that's currently spiralling out of control.

There are easier ways to be successful... especially changing your outlook on life, changing your idea of self worth, and the way you think about what is important to you.

Of course... it's never fun to be a cog in someone else's fucked up plans... and unfortunately, the gaming industry loves to take, take and take.

And if it's any consolation, a lot more people would prefer to be in the industry you're in, then the one your high school class mate was in.

 

[newsguy]

And if it's any consolation, a lot more people would prefer to be in the industry you're in, then the one your high school class mate was in.

Ah yes, the classic game industry is the foot-in-the-door for real estate agents argument.

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

Post of the Year.

This is typical GAF. I was demonized in my homeless thread despite the fact that *I* was victimized by a leech of society and criminal whose only contribution to society is depositing large volumes of urine on taxpayers' street corners. Somehow *I* had become the bad guy and not the freeloading vermin that terrorized my neighborhood.

Oh trust me, you weren't victimised because of your success.

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

Ah yes, the classic game industry is the foot-in-the-door for real estate agents argument.

What? That statement doesn't makes sense, nor is it funny.