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[Kagari]

I wonder how significant it is that FFXIII is the fifth best-selling PS3 game of last year but failed to make the top 10 on 360. Do we have any info on how the total sales were split?

First month was 63% on PS3, 37% on 360. Second month was 96K on both consoles, but the split was never given. The PS3 one probably had longer legs though, though by how much we will never know unless NPD releases the data.

 

[mugurumakensei]

Too bad games like Black Ops and Epic Mickey dont sell on the system.

Epic Mickey sold nearly twice as much as Kingdom Hearts II did in its opening month in the US.

Edit: I think I missed the sarcasm?

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

yep. hopefully this will finally stop the fanboys from chanting "BUTBUTBUT IT SOLD 60 MILLION UNITS!" every time someone dares to suggest that the PSP wasn't a wild success.

Nor suggest it was a failure with "BUTBUTBUT IT CAN'T SELL GAMES" either. It's a mixed victory.

 

[The Technomancer]

Too bad games like Black Ops and Epic Mickey dont sell on the system.

Epic Mickey confirms what de Blob showed over a year ago: a quality game on Wii that has a broad, family friendly audience and is marketed well will sell well. Shocker there.
Its a shame that the " traditional core" audience isn't as big as the HD twins, but after the first couple of years that's understandable.

 

[Rush2thestart]

Epic Mickey sold nearly twice as much as Kingdom Hearts II did in its opening month in the US.

Edit: I think I missed the sarcasm?

Yup

Yeah, it would be awesome if other FPS games (*coughGoldeneyecough*) and many many other 3rd person adventure games without the benefit of Disney sold too (in all seriousness, Epic Mickey did pretty damn good regardless).

Goldeneye released a week prior to Black Ops. They were essentially competing with each other and the game with the bigger marketing won. Who knows, Goldeneye could be #11.

The game charted from the day of its release to two weeks ago in the UK, and Iwata flat-out called it a hit when he announced Nintendo was publishing it in Japan.

EDIT: It's that type of thinking that has kept publishers off Nintendo consoles for years. They're just excuses.

 

[justchris]

Excludes hardware bundles. Most Wii Party in the UK sold with the controller - is it fair to assume the same in the USA?

Yes, but in the past when NPD has referred to 'hardware bundles', they have meant console hardware, not controllers. Hence Wii Play being the best selling non-bundled game of all time in the US.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

F:NV is a top ten game on the xbox but not on the PS3...vice versa for FF13.

The average person person who is drawn to a 360 is not the same person who is drawn to a PS3.

While that is true to some degree (many PS3 owners are there because of their loyalty/love of prior PS franchises), let's not totally discount multi-console owners as another factor into the equation.

In the case of those two games, FF13 was widely reported to be a terrible experience on 360, at least in comparison to the PS3 version, so anyone who had a choice bought it on PS3, and many 360-only owners probably didn't buy it at all because nobody likes buying a significantly "gimped" version of something like this.

For F:NV, the 360 had exclusive DLC, just as with FO3, and we've seen how exclusive content can "sway" the distribution between versions.

 

[sfog]

Excludes hardware bundles. Most Wii Party in the UK sold with the controller - is it fair to assume the same in the USA?

Probably not. It was primarily sold as a standalone full-price ($50) game in the US. There were controller bundles at some stores, but they definitely weren't the main SKU, and were sold at $20 over the standard price.

 

[soldat7]

wipeout wii really?

They thought it was a futuristic racing game?

 

[jvm]

Can you break down your method for making that estimate?

Sure. I have access to non-public, but official, information for two of the months and a reasonable bound for the third. Hope that helps.

 

[cooljeanius]

Goldeneye released a week prior to Black Ops. They were essentially competing with each other and the game with the bigger marketing won. Who knows, Goldeneye could be #11.

While Black Ops as a whole had more marketing, the Wii version had barely any. I don't think we even knew what it looked like until it released. If you're comparing Goldeneye to just the Wii version of Black Ops, Goldeneye definitely had more marketing.

 

[RustyNails]

Wow, GoW 3 was a beast.

 

[Rush2thestart]

While Black Ops as a whole had more marketing, the Wii version had barely any. I don't think we even knew what it looked like until it released. If you're comparing Goldeneye to just the Wii version of Black Ops, Goldeneye definitely had more marketing.

This doesnt make any sense. Why would Activision market the Wii version of Black Ops specifically? It's the same game as the PS3/360/PC version. All the ads had the Wii logo on them.

Activision was pushing Goldeneye as the Wii FPS to get, but Black Ops marketing was so massive that it made it seem irrelevant. It was THE fps to get during that month.

Boggles my mind why they put Goldeneye's release so close to COD...every other publisher moved their FPS's far away from it, but Activision didnt do the same.

 

[Snipes424]

I think the real tragedy from this data is Fable 3 and New Vegas outselling Mass Effect 2 on the 360.

 

[Gravijah]

They thought it was a futuristic racing game?

It wouldn't have sold shit if that were true.

 

[The Technomancer]

I just looked up Wipeout: The Game

WTF? How did that sell?

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

I just looked up Wipeout: The Game

WTF? How did that sell?

Popular family show license on a popular family console. Minigames.

How could it not!

 

[cj_iwakura]

I love Ys, but come on, no way was that going to break top 20, much less 10.

 

[jesusraz]

AND it's above Wii Party? (which I thought did relatively good but obviously didn't...)

Out of the 5 million+ copies shipped last year, there was a slide from the Nintendo financial briefings that showed that Europe and Japan were the biggest markets for the game, with only about 500,000 sales in the US. Iwata-san even said he feels there's room to improve upon sales of the game in the North American market...but then again it was also said that Wii Music would continue to be supported to accrue further sales, yet that didn't exactly happen.

Anyway, Europe is the biggest market for Wii Party, by far, thanks to pre-release promo work and a strong amount of advertising over Christmas.

Mario Vs DK sold that well? I am surprised, I was on the assumption that it sort of flopped. Then again, 2010 was a pretty week year for the DS.

1,150,000 copies of M vs DK were shipped in 2010 worldwide...and it wasn't even out in Aus and Europe until this year. Therefore, given that Japanese sales were 231,781 as of 26th December, you can see plenty of stock was pumped into the US market.

 

[jeremy1456]

I love Ys, but come on, no way was that going to break top 20, much less 10.

On PSP it could have sold 50k all year and would be like #3.

 

[Metal Gear?!]

I just looked up Wipeout: The Game

WTF? How did that sell?

http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-wipeout-the-game/17-2860/ All the explanation you need

 

[farnham]

wii party sales is baffling

you get a free controller

its a wii___ game and it has party in the title

wtf.

 

[Shiggy]

wii party sales is baffling

you get a free controller

its a wii___ game and it has party in the title

wtf.

You don't.

 

[faridmon]

Crap! never mind me. I had a very convusing day yesterday and my comment don't make sense, even to me.

Sorry.

 

[mavs]

http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-wipeout-the-game/17-2860/ All the explanation you need

Holy shit, how did I never see this? Best QL ever.

Ryan: Alright.
Ryan: oh god. i don't know wh-. i dunnowha-. oh god. oooh no. oh noo! oh-
Vinny: gchtsklftsdgsptbnskjl

 

[fabprems]

Boggles my mind why they put Goldeneye's release so close to COD...every other publisher moved their FPS's far away from it, but Activision didnt do the same.

The best thing is that they delayed the Wii version of Black ops in Europe and they killed the hype for this version AND Goldeneye.

Brilliant.

 

[Starwolf_UK]

wii party sales is baffling

you get a free controller

its a wii___ game and it has party in the title

wtf.

It could be NPD changing their definition of hardware bundle (silly things like this happen anywhere and I wouldn't put it past NPD). But otherwise;

Theres been a few years of minigame fatigue. The controller is the dated Wii remote design rather than the Wii Remote Plus (making the whole bundle come off as "here pay to clear our warehouse") and its possible many percieved the non-remote bundled game as being too expensive for what it was. Plus with 3rd party conpetition now the market for a cheap remote is more alive than ever (shame the cheapests remotes are not worth buying as they will break or experiance odd behaviour).

Finally, maybe people have enough controllers by now. I perosnally have no need for more than 2 controllers (which I've got). Any games I play with 3 or 4 player support Gamecube controllers or the other players bring theirs. My two controllers were Hajimete no Wii (Japanese Wii play, worked out cheaper than buy a Wii remote locally) and the console. Of course now that Wii play is apparently discontinued Wii party could pick up sales in this aspect

Spoiler

though given Wii Sports Resort being removed from hardware bundles, I personally a see a Wii Remote Plus bundle of that coming sometime (its happened in Japan, but I can see it being held back outside due to destroying the value of Wii Party plus existing Wii Sports Resort sotck)

 

[nib95]

Surprised at the success of GOW3 and the failure of Ghost of Sparta. Never expected GOW to outsell FFXIII or RDR. Also, I assume this time next year GT5 will be further up that list.

 

[Mael]

This doesnt make any sense. Why would Activision market the Wii version of Black Ops specifically? It's the same game as the PS3/360/PC version. All the ads had the Wii logo on them.

Activision was pushing Goldeneye as the Wii FPS to get, but Black Ops marketing was so massive that it made it seem irrelevant. It was THE fps to get during that month.

Boggles my mind why they put Goldeneye's release so close to COD...every other publisher moved their FPS's far away from it, but Activision didnt do the same.

the only explanation is that there was a mixup in the release schedule, they couldn't miss the holyday season and it wasn't ready before it was released :/
If you ask me I prefer it that way, because if it was delayed it would have probably faired worse and earlier the quality would have suffered.
That's just my guess anyway.
I agree that it would have been better if they had that idea last year when there was no new CoD on the system scheduled (and whatever happened with MW last year could have been shelved without much harm done or release in the buildup to CoDBlops)

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Surprised at the success of GOW3 and the failure of Ghost of Sparta. Never expected GOW to outsell FFXIII or RDR. Also, I assume this time next year GT5 will be further up that list.

Seems kind of odd to still say Ghost of Sparta was a failure considering one could have just bought it from the PSN to be entitled to all of the same preorder promotions and stuff they had running for it. For all we know, it could have sold more on PSN than through stores...

And next year GT5 may not be on the list, as the list only includes games released in that year...(2011). Why wouldnt GOW outsell FFXIII...

 

[Mael]

Seems kind of odd to still say Ghost of Sparta was a failure considering one could have just bought it from the PSN to be entitled to all of the same preorder promotions and stuff they had running for it. For all we know, it could have sold more on PSN than through stores...

And next year GT5 may not be on the list, as the list only includes games released in that year...(2011). Why wouldnt GOW outsell FFXIII...

Because a psn game being a Huge success overnight would really go unnoticed to the PR people of Sony?
Seriously it's safe to say it wasn't such an overwhelming success

 

[milanbaros]

Yeah, that should be the most a CoD on Wii has sold in its Nov/Dec. launch. But Wii software is down. Core titles aren't performing. Third-parties are abandoning the system. But Black Ops Wii sells the most of the CoDs on Wii in two months?!?

Not sure what's happening there. :lol

Well last quater was the biggest ever for Wii software WW.