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[DyslexicAlucard]

Ugh. Anyone else getting a bit disillusioned with Nvidia over this Founder's Edition nonsense? I thought only Nvidia was going to make the FE reference cards, and that the third-party suppliers would make ones more akin to the advertised $380 USD. But since everyone can make the FE, what is the incentive of the companies to make non-FE cards when you can make more selling it for $450+?

And this is all beside the fact that the FE itself is pretty much just a giant middle finger to early adopters. =/

 

[Cuban Legend]

Ugh. Anyone else getting a bit disillusioned with Nvidia over this Founder's Edition nonsense? I thought only Nvidia was going to make the FE reference cards, and that the third-party suppliers would make ones more akin to the advertised $380 USD. But since everyone can make the FE, what is the incentive of the companies to make non-FE cards when you can make more selling it for $450+?

And this is all beside the fact that the FE itself is pretty much just a giant middle finger to early adopters. =/

I totally agree with you. I was really hyped for a $370 ASUS 1070 STRIX but that dream will probably never happen... I really wanted the 2 HDMI ports on it too...

 

[Timu]

I wonder when these will be back in stock at amazon at the regular base price of $400-450 bucks. I might get one of these.

 

[Glass Shark]

Updating my list of known NA pricing for 1070 AIB cards:

Gigabyte G1 Gaming - $429
ASUS Strix - $429
ASUS Strix OC - $449
EVGA ACX 3.0 - $419
EVGA ACX 3.0 SC - $439
EVGA ACX 3.0 FTW - ???
MSI Armor - ???
MSI Armor OC - $449
MSI Aero - ???
MSI Aero OC - ???
MSI Gaming X - $449
MSI Sea Hawk - ???
Zotac Amp - $449
Zotac Amp Extreme - ???

The Gigabyte G1 seems like the best value IMO if you can manage to get an order in for one.

 

[Emarv]

Gigabyte over EVGA 3.0? Just curious. This is my first GPU buy.

 

[Glass Shark]

Gigabyte over EVGA 3.0? Just curious. This is my first GPU buy.

The ACX 3.0 has no factory overclock. The G1 is overclocked out of the box and the Windforce coolers are usually very good.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

Im actually trying to decide if I should go for a MSI 980ti or try and hold off for the 1070 version, based off of reviews performance wise they are both the same and when overcloced the 980ti pulls ahead by a few frames.

I thought about just going with a 980Ti but who knows where it'll end up two years from now, Pascal isn't as evolved from Maxwell as it was from Kepler but a 1070 will hold more of its value a bit longer if you plan on reselling.

980ti's still selling for $600 on Amazon. Waiting for 1070.

NewEgg was selling the MSI Goldwhatever version for $400 a couple days ago.

Anyone know the best way to get a 1070? Having trouble finding one in stock anywhere, despite being subbed to a bunch of manufacturer's sites...

Wait two or three months for the insanity to die down and stocks to build up and prices settle.

Gigabyte over EVGA 3.0? Just curious. This is my first GPU buy.

Honestly at this point there doesn't seem to be much of a difference between any of the cards when it comes to overclocking ability, might as well just pick the one with the better reviewed cooling and DB level.

 

[A-V-B]

Updating my list of known NA pricing for 1070 AIB cards:

Gigabyte G1 Gaming - $429
ASUS Strix - $429
ASUS Strix OC - $449
EVGA ACX 3.0 - $419
EVGA ACX 3.0 SC - $439
EVGA ACX 3.0 FTW - ???
MSI Armor - ???
MSI Armor OC - $449
MSI Aero - ???
MSI Aero OC - ???
MSI Gaming X - $449
MSI Sea Hawk - ???
Zotac Amp - $449
Zotac Amp Extreme - ???

The Gigabyte G1 seems like the best value IMO if you can manage to get an order in for one.

Wow, wtf? So everyone's just doing the founder edition? What a load of shit. I might be going AMD for the first time in a decade.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Decided against getting the 980ti. I figure even at the better price and minimal performance difference, I'm better off with a newer card.

I wish AMD was rolling something out that was comparable to the 1070 this month. I don't think I can wait until fall or later.

 

[bearythebear]

I probably won't buy for a couple months at least. How long does it take for game bundles to come out?

 

[Freshmaker]

Decided against getting the 980ti. I figure even at the better price and minimal performance difference, I'm better off with a newer card.

I wish AMD was rolling something out that was comparable to the 1070 this month. I don't think I can wait until fall or later.

There is the possibility of two 480's in crossfire.

 

[Weevilone]

Ugh. Anyone else getting a bit disillusioned with Nvidia over this Founder's Edition nonsense? I thought only Nvidia was going to make the FE reference cards, and that the third-party suppliers would make ones more akin to the advertised $380 USD. But since everyone can make the FE, what is the incentive of the companies to make non-FE cards when you can make more selling it for $450+?

And this is all beside the fact that the FE itself is pretty much just a giant middle finger to early adopters. =/

Nobody is making the FE cards except Nvidia , but unsure if that will change. All the FE cards so far were just NV cards with stickers on them. I'd imagine there is incentive to just buy the chip instead of the whole card from NV.

 

[Tinúviel]

I manage the order a ACX 3.0 card from amazon before it became unavailable.I hope it won't take too much time them to supply the cards.

Btw can non SC will be able to hit same levels of OC as SC model?

 

[QuantumSquid]

I wonder when these will be back in stock at amazon at the regular base price of $400-450 bucks. I might get one of these.

Check back in mid-July. The stock situation should (should) be resolved by then.

Gigabyte over EVGA 3.0? Just curious. This is my first GPU buy.

Go EVGA. The Gigabyte's overclock is totally inconsequential, only offering a meager 1-2 framerate boost after overclocking it to the same capacity as the reference card.

EVGA is an American company and their customer service is LEGENDARY. I pretty much only buy graphics cards from them where possible.

 

[doraemoe]

Should I go with those overclocked model like gaming X/FTW/SC etc.? I'm not sure if it worth the price.

 

[Hypron]

There is the possibility of two 480's in crossfire.

That won't work with every game all the time and going SLI/Crossfire is just asking for trouble really :/

 

[SmartWaffles]

There is the possibility of two 480's in crossfire.

Always get the most powerful single card within the budget.

 

[Hesemonni]

What does AIB mean?

 

[Apoleptica]

My evga GTX 1070 SC came in the mail today. I am very very pleased with it, this card is a beast. I was worried about coil wine as I've read online elsewhere that others have experienced coil wine with the same card, luckily I have absolutely zero coil wine (using a Corsair RM750X power supply). I just ran the Witcher 3 completely maxed out at 1080p on my hdtv at a flawless 60 fps and it was absolutely glorious (though with hairworks off, as with hairworks on my fps dropped to about 50 fps). Another thing I would like to mention is the card is almost completely silent, even after the fans begin to spin up when it heats up I still can't hear it. On my monitor I can easily get almost every game to 144 fps at 1080p, and with G-sync the experience is flawless.

 

[Soodanim]

I considered upgrading my 970 to a 1070 until I saw the price. What the hell is going on? I paid £275 for my card at release, and its replacement card is £100 more?! Behave yourselves, NVidia.

 

[Mr Swine]

I considered upgrading my 970 to a 1070 until I saw the price. What the hell is going on? I paid £275 for my card at release, and its replacement card is £100 more?! Behave yourselves, NVidia.

Same here, bought my GTX 970 for roughly 3500kr when it came out and the GTX 1070 costs 5000kr. I think I rather upgrade my CPU this year and buy a new GPU next year

 

[RickyRozay]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=6202798&SID=

Zotec Founders edition in stock 449.99.

 

[Kieli]

What does AIB mean?

Add-in board.

Means non-reference (i.e. basic) design.

 

[Freshmaker]

Always get the most powerful single card within the budget.

Yeah I know.

However, if AMD's not blowing smoke two of those best a 1080 when the crossfire actually works. For $400-500.

 

[Hesemonni]

Add-in board.

Means non-reference (i.e. basic) design.

Ah. Thanks!

 

[Timu]

Check back in mid-July. The stock situation should (should) be resolved by then.

Ah, ok, thanks for that, I'm preparing to get parts for my new and powerful PC so this is good to hear.

 

[SaiyanRaoh]

Is there a good OC tutorial for this card specifically? Any recommendations?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

There is the possibility of two 480's in crossfire.

You should NEVER choose 2 slower GPUs in multi-GPU over a single faster GPU. Ever. This goes for both SLI and CF.

Yeah I know.

However, if AMD's not blowing smoke two of those best a 1080 when the crossfire actually works. For $400-500.

"when the crossfire actually works"

Yeah um, about that.

 

[Freshmaker]

"when the crossfire actually works"

Yeah um, about that.

Hence the blowing smoke comment.

 

[ShogunDarius]

You should NEVER choose 2 slower GPUs in multi-GPU over a single faster GPU. Ever. This goes for both SLI and CF.



"when the crossfire actually works"

Yeah um, about that.

yeah I have to agree with this, if anyone is thinking 1070 sli, dont, get a 1080

 

[Novum_Veritas]

Is microstuttering still a thing with SLI and CF btw?
Or does Nvidia and AMD fixed it a long while ago?

 

[Freshmaker]

Is microstuttering still a thing with SLI and CF btw?
Or does Nvidia and AMD fixed it a long while ago?

It seems to be more and more of an afterthought.

 

[Novum_Veritas]

It seems to be more and more of an afterthought.

Ah I see thanks, good to know, guess I will still keeping a Single GPU though.
Just need to wait for more stock for the 1080 and 1070 here in Germany.

 

[shoreu]

Msi was in stock for a few seconds guys

 

[Novum_Veritas]

Msi was in stock for a few seconds guys

Where? NewEgg?

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Is there a good OC tutorial for this card specifically? Any recommendations?

They don't OC for sh*t so little point. Just read a review and work up to their end OC (~2000Mhz).

 

[SmartWaffles]

Buy the cheapest and most reliable/best warranty AIB cards you can find, you won't find significant performance and OC capability differences this time around.

 

[shoreu]

Where? NewEgg?

Yeah

Gigabyte was also in stock for .5 second
New egg

 

[Parsnip]

All this talk about quickly ordering cards while they are in stock confuses me.

Can you not just order one that isn't in stock and they'll just fulfill orders as cards come in?

 

[Knurek]

People with more hardware knowledge than me - isn't the fact that neither FE nor AIB cards overclock all that well a bit worrying? What if it's caused by overclock made directly by NVIDIA, so that the cards can outpace Maxwell? Wouldn't such a thing shorten the lifespan of the cards significantly?

 

[MuchoMalo]

People with more hardware knowledge than me - isn't the fact that neither FE nor AIB cards overclock all that well a bit worrying? What if it's caused by overclock made directly by NVIDIA, so that the cards can outpace Maxwell? Wouldn't such a thing shorten the lifespan of the cards significantly?

Nah, it's fine. Voltages are low, it's safe. If anything, Nvidia is the one intentionally limiting overclocks by hard-limiting the maximum voltage.

 

[black_vegeta]

All this talk about quickly ordering cards while they are in stock confuses me.

Can you not just order one that isn't in stock and they'll just fulfill orders as cards come in?

I think the only retailer who does that is Amazon

 

[MuchoMalo]

I think the only retailer who does that is Amazon

And they have no idea when they'll receive stock. They're telling some people next week, and other people as late as early August. I don't know if Amazon's approach is really better at all.

 

[muu]

Gigabyte was in stock for like 10 minutes atheist last large drop they announced. Got one then, came in yesterday. Something similar is supposed to happen at 9am I believe, it actually came live about 15 secs prior and I managed to get through order before the hordes rolled in.

Going up from 7950 this is a phenomenal card. I thought vr was fine w the previous card, but no worry of breaking 90fps and causing reprojection ever is huge.

 

[demosthenes]

I'm actually getting really excited that I got the 1070 yesterday!

Now to pick out a gsync monitor.

Spoiler

my wallet cries

 

[Parsnip]

I think the only retailer who does that is Amazon

Oh weird.

All pc component stores over here do that. Or I atleast can't think of one that doesn't.

 

[Durante]

Yeah I know.

However, if AMD's not blowing smoke two of those best a 1080 when the crossfire actually works.

That's the key part of your sentence.

Buying 2 lower-end cards was a bad idea already a few years back when multi-GPU was at least working somewhat consistently (frame pacing problems and input lag notwithstanding). Now, when every other game uses rendering techniques which either kill AFR or at least reduce scaling to sub-50% it's a terrible idea.

People with more hardware knowledge than me - isn't the fact that neither FE nor AIB cards overclock all that well a bit worrying? What if it's caused by overclock made directly by NVIDIA, so that the cards can outpace Maxwell? Wouldn't such a thing shorten the lifespan of the cards significantly?

Not at all. All of these cards run at very safe voltages and temperatures out of the box.

Oh weird.

All pc component stores over here do that. Or I atleast can't think of one that doesn't.

Yeah, it's strange. I could pre-order 1070s/1080s from tons of different retailers right now in Austria or Germany.

 

[billmcdougal]

It looks like I could pre-order the MSI ones on Amazon?
Whats the difference with going from the $430 to the $450 Gaming X?

My last Radeon was an MSI TwinFrozr and the fans were great. I assume I can expect good things from this "Armor" line too?

 

[michaelius]

There is the possibility of two 480's in crossfire.

I really hope anyone suggesting that puts his wallet where his mouth is and gets such crossfire setup and enjoys it for next few years

 

[shoreu]

I wonder how long it will take before the cards can be bought by regular human beings and aren't forever on "pre-order" status or sold out within ten seconds. A month at most, I hope, but I'm guessing it's going to take around two months (if not more) after the release date before it's available for purchase normally.

I don't know but this shit is annoying