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Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070 Review Thread

I love my Msi Frozer 970 so much. It's incredible. It's so silent! It runs so cool! I am so lucky have this. It's a fucking amazing piece of technology. We should all just stop and say thank you to our amazing technology. It's incredible. If you took this card and traveled 15 years back in time and showed people what it could do, people would have stabbed you for being a witch. they wouldn't have believed Witcher 3 graphics in the year 2000. Their butts would split open like moses split the red sea.


I wonder if they are going to make a 1070 version? And would that be stronger than regular reference 1070?
 
Here's what I have so far for confirmed NA pricing for AIB cards:

Gigabyte G1 Gaming - $429
ASUS Strix - $449
EVGA ACX 3.0 - $419
EVGA ACX 3.0 SC - $439
EVGA ACX 3.0 FTW - ???
MSI Armor - ???
MSI Armor OC - ???
MSI Aero - ???
MSI Aero OC - ???
MSI Gaming X - ???
Zotac Amp - $449
Zotac Amp Extreme - ???

Am I missing anything?

There's two Asus Strix if I'm not mistaken - regular ($429) and overclocked ($449).

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Looking at it some more, I'm pretty worried about what kind of corners Gigabyte has cut to achieve a low price point with it's Gaming G1 GTX 1070.

Here's their 970 heatsink:

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Considering the 970 has roughly the same wattage as the GTX 1070, it's worrying to see that the 1070 seems like a significantly worse cooler.

Again for reference, the picture from their 1070 product page:

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Interesting - though we don't know anything about the copper pipes, maybe they're improved?

Either way - the 1080 cooling looks a bit better - it has 3 pipes.

 
I love my Msi Frozer 970 so much. It's incredible. It's so silent! It runs so cool! I am so lucky have this. It's a fucking amazing piece of technology. We should all just stop and say thank you to our amazing technology. It's incredible. If you took this card and traveled 15 years back in time and showed people what it could do, people would have stabbed you for being a witch. they wouldn't have believed Witcher 3 graphics in the year 2000. Their butts would split open like moses split the red sea.


I wonder if they are going to make a 1070 version? And would that be stronger than regular reference 1070?

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Interesting, the 980ti EVGA classified is up for $409.99.

The 1070 is better I know, but it's still interesting. Wonder what kind of deals we might see on the 970 going forward.
 
Interesting - though we don't know anything about the copper pipes, maybe they're improved?

Either way - the 1080 cooling looks a bit better - it has 3 pipes.

Looks like Techpowerup has a review for both the Gigabyte and the MSI 1080 now.

The Gigabyte shows 34dbA under load. The MSI shows 31 dbA under load. Both have similar temps.

So even though the MSI is definitely better, the Gigabyte is still quite quiet. The GTX 1070 cooler will be worse with 2 heatpipes, but as the card uses 30W less power, that should probably even things out a bit.
 
I preordered a 1070 strix with a TBC price from a local website. Fingers crossed the price will turn out to be reasonable (not any more than NZ$1k...), otherwise I'll have to cancel.
 
Updates based on new info:

Gigabyte G1 Gaming - $429
ASUS Strix - $429
ASUS Strix OC - $449
EVGA ACX 3.0 - $419
EVGA ACX 3.0 SC - $439
EVGA ACX 3.0 FTW - ???
MSI Armor - ???
MSI Armor OC - $449
MSI Aero - ???
MSI Aero OC - ???
MSI Gaming X - ???
MSI Sea Hawk - ???
Zotac Amp - $449
Zotac Amp Extreme - ???

(This is NA pricing only.)
 
I have skimmed through the thread looking for this answer and didnt see it so please dont hate me for asking.

Anyone know when the $379 version releases?
 
I have skimmed through the thread looking for this answer and didnt see it so please dont hate me for asking.

Anyone know when the $379 version releases?

They're trickling out slowly, and pricing is all over the place. I'm betting the MSI Aero is going to land right at or near $379, but it's basically just an FE card with a less pretty shroud.
 
We're not going to see the $380 price for a while are we...

Does the founders style card drop to $380 after a period of time?

Nope. Those high-quality materials aren't getting any less high-quality over time, pal! You gotta pay if you want the best!

Thanks, I jumped on this one and got order confirmation. I'm tired of comparing all the different cards and waiting for limited stock. I want to play Doom asap

Wow, I'm returning to PC gaming in a big way. I've never owned an elite card like this before. For reference, my current card is a GTX 460

It's pretty cool to be able to run any game you want at 60fps. I felt the same way you do when I got my 970.
 
I have skimmed through the thread looking for this answer and didnt see it so please dont hate me for asking.

Anyone know when the $379 version releases?

You won't see one of those for a while, and it'll probably be a low-end blower. I'd say bring the budget up to $400 and wait a month.

Also, I got it! YES! Now I just need to wait to see if it gets canceled before I cancel my Amazon or- it got canceled.

WAH WAH WAH
 
Do we know when this is coming out?

The YouTube channel Awesomesauce Network already got theirs, so they're in production. It took a few weeks after 1080 launch day for the MSI Gaming 1080 cards to become available to the public, so I'd expect the same for the 1070. By the end of month I'd say you should be able to find them (albeit in very limited quantities) on sites like Newegg and Amazon.
 
Looking at it some more, I'm pretty worried about what kind of corners Gigabyte has cut to achieve a low price point with it's Gaming G1 GTX 1070.

Here's their 970 heatsink:

980WF3HeatPipe.png


Considering the 970 has roughly the same wattage as the GTX 1070, it's worrying to see that the 1070 seems like a significantly worse cooler.

Again for reference, the picture from their 1070 product page:

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They changed the naming around. The old regular "Windforce X3" card is what the new G1 replaces, while the Xtreme Gaming is the new top of the pack. Basically, it's a bait-n-switch.

This is the 970's WF X3 heatsink:

980WF3HeatPipe.png
 
Right? The price difference of the cheapest 1070 vs the the cheapest 1080 is slim enough that I'm now considering the 1080 instead.

Honestly this is my first time doing this and its a load of shit.


The YouTube channel Awesomesauce Network already got theirs, so they're in production. It took a few weeks after 1080 launch day for the MSI Gaming 1080 cards to become available to the public, so I'd expect the same for the 1070. By the end of month I'd say you should be able to find them (albeit in very limited quantities) on sites like Newegg and Amazon.


Hell I'm stuck with newegg i have to pray I get one lol
 
Honestly this is my first time doing this and its a load of shit.





Hell I'm stuck with newegg i have to pray I get one lol

It's my first time witnessing firsthand the bullshit of a paper launch, and man does it suck.

That said I don't have the money to spare on a new card right now anyway, so it hasn't affected me much.

If you are the patient type, I'd say by August we should be seeing these cards for less exorbitant prices and in much greater stock numbers. Nvidia can't keep trickling tiny quantities of these cards to sellers' warehouses forever.
 
It's my first time witnessing firsthand the bullshit of a paper launch, and man does it suck.

That said I don't have the money to spare on a new card right now anyway, so it hasn't affected me much.

If you are the patient type, I'd say by August we should be seeing these cards for less exorbitant prices and in much greater stock numbers. Nvidia can't keep trickling tiny quantities of these cards to sellers' warehouses forever.

Yeah I'm honestly gonna wait I wanted to use my rig this summer but fuck all this hastle
 
I got my 1070 yesterday and slapped it in the ole' PC. It's almost as fast in 3dmark as my 390x CF 290 was , about 15000 points in firestrike compared to the 17200 I got with that other combo. But with the 290 toasted , I was left with the 390x by itself which only got about 10000 points.

How does it preform in my games ? Well this is the first Nvidia card I've purchased since the 8800 GT so I decided to try out Arkham city and with PhysX turned on the game crashes almost instantly. With it off it runs at 59.97 fps (vsync on) with zero issues. It was a stuttery mess on the previous set up. Tomb Raider, maxed out at 1080p (using the nvidia experience thing to lock in settings) did a 59.97 average in the benchmark with somewhere around 80 as high mark. The thing that really impressed me is how much better this card is at frame pacing though. I never once saw Rise of the Tomb Raider run so damn smooth, it was like butter, not so much as a single hitch anywhere. Very impressed there.

Witcher 3 , 1080p in Ultra (complete with the silly fur shaders cranked up) also ran super great. I didn't benchmark the framerate exactly but on the 390x I had to turn some settings down to high from ultra to keep the game from getting jerky which again- might be a frame pacing issue that the 1070 (and by extension Nvidias driver) doesn't have.

For shits and giggles I ran the ultra SF4 benchmark which some of you may or may not know , maxes out at 300 fps - it rendered the entire benchmark so fast that I didn't even get to see it, just heard a smattering of noise and a couple of frames of animation and the stat page came up. I might want to try doing some super sampling there because there's clearly a ton of room for it. I mean it is a game from 2008 afterall.

Saints row 3 also ran smooth as butter and the Nvidia experience app defaulted it to 4K super sampling. There was the odd flickery texture thing going on that the 390X didn't produce but a running theme here is that the 390x whether crossfire'd or not , caused frame pacing problems everywhere that this 1070 card doesn't reproduce and SR3 was no exception.

Dragon Age Inquisition , I had run the benchmark while the CF setup still worked and got well north of 100 FPS but in game - again, frame pacing issues made it look janky as hell at points , it was probably running at 60 fps but didn't feel like it. On the 1070 ? scored roughly 100 fps in the benchmark and in game it actually felt and ran like it was at 60 without any stuttering.

That's about all the noteworthy stuff I tried , I mean I loaded up Dark souls 3 as well but I haven't played it since before the 290 blew up on me so it ran just as smooth as my last memory of the game.

All in all, thanks to the exchange rate , the 1070 was 50% less money then a 1080 when comparing founders edition prices. Even if I compare the cheapest 1080 I've seen , it was still 33% cheaper. From reading this thread it sounds like prices on the non reference cards for the 1070 are pretty much the same if not more money than the FE so I don't know guys I'm happy with my purchase.

Only thing that sucks is that I spent way to much money on the 390X only a few months ago to play games on this PC , I suppose it could be worse - I contemplated buying a 970 that was 740$ and opted for the 550$ 390X instead. But based on recent benchmarks it's looking like the 480 line coming in a couple weeks is about as good as a 390X for 25% less money ... meaning if I resell that 390X I can't see myself getting even half of what I paid for it :(
 
Have not kept up with PC hardware until recently but coming from the 560Ti and the era of value cards at $200-$300 price points, has that value tier completely disappear from the market already? Even looking at the 960, it doesn't seem like it offers that much value? Seems like the best value is found at the higher price points where the 970 or 1070 sits now?
 
Have not kept up with PC hardware until recently but coming from the 560Ti and the era of value cards at $200-$300 price points, has that value tier completely disappear from the market already? Even looking at the 960, it doesn't seem like it offers that much value? Seems like the best value is found at the higher price points where the 970 or 1070 sits now?

It will be down to the 1060 (unknown launch date and cost) vs AMD's 480 for Value tier (June 29th $200 4GB, $230 8GB).

The 480 if the benchmarks are accurate has the best price:performance. All we've really seen is synthetic benches at this point though.
 
Have not kept up with PC hardware until recently but coming from the 560Ti and the era of value cards at $200-$300 price points, has that value tier completely disappear from the market already? Even looking at the 960, it doesn't seem like it offers that much value? Seems like the best value is found at the higher price points where the 970 or 1070 sits now?

In terms of performance per dollar, the 1070 seems to be the current champ (at least at US prices), but if you don't need something that's near the top of the line, 970 prices are probably going to drop like a rock soon and it's still a great card.
 
In terms of performance per dollar, the 1070 seems to be the current champ (at least at US prices), but if you don't need something that's near the top of the line, 970 prices are probably going to drop like a rock soon and it's still a great card.

980s are becoming very interesting too, as they have a lot more OC headroom than 970s and their prices are dropping as well. Got a reference 980 in February for the price of a good custom 970, and it's OCing quite well.
 
The Gigabyte G1 1070 is available for preorder at Amazon - $429.

Amazon Link

Link is non affiliated btw.

I got one but - I grumbled a bit because its $50 higher than the $379 we were supposed to get... while the Gigabyte G1 1080 version was seen to go for $611 though there's no knowing if prices will always be that low.
 
It is close to 30% when tested in really demanding places

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total was 28% for them
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http://pclab.pl/art65154-37.html

And memory used in that test favored ddr3 slightly:

DDR-2133 9-9-10-24 1N vs DDR4 DDR-2666 16-17-17-36 2N.





Yeah nowadays i try to avoid any hardware buys if they aren't throwing some free stuff (games or accessories) or some reduction in price.

Interesting do you think going from a 4820K to a Intel 6700K would be a good boost in GTA and other games?
 
980s are becoming very interesting too, as they have a lot more OC headroom than 970s and their prices are dropping as well. Got a reference 980 in February for the price of a good custom 970, and it's OCing quite well.

I've debated going this route as a 1440p user. My aim is to get consistent (or near-consistent) 60FPS. With the 1070 prices remaining fairly high and the stock depleted, I wonder if just getting one of these and overclocking is good enough.
 
I've debated going this route as a 1440p user. My aim is to get consistent (or near-consistent) 60FPS. With the 1070 prices remaining fairly high and the stock depleted, I wonder if just getting one of these and overclocking is good enough.

Maybe go with a second-hand 980 ti? I've seen them go for cheap.
 
Maybe go with a second-hand 980 ti? I've seen them go for cheap.

Could do; for example, there's one going for £350 on eBay. That said, the recent leaks for the 480 - if true - will make it almost a no-brainer so logic is telling me to wait until official benchmarks come out.
 
Seems like it's gonna outperform the 980 by a small margin and have some OC headroom as well, so that's good. Won't be a match for a 980Ti though.
 
How do you know its around 2 weeks?

Because orders of the G1 1080 on Amazon were made on June 3rd, and not all of them have shipped or even have ship dates yet. 1.5-3 weeks seems likely unless supply is much higher this time. Also, I'm pretty sure that Amazon only put it up for preorder yesterday in the first place because they wanted to beat Newegg to it and that they don't even have stock lined up. They didn't even have a picture of the card until this morning. It's almost a scam.

Seems like it's gonna outperform the 980 by a small margin and have some OC headroom as well, so that's good. Won't be a match for a 980Ti though.

Wrong thread?
 
It is close to 30% when tested in really demanding places

gta5.png

w3.png


total was 28% for them
gry.png


http://pclab.pl/art65154-37.html

And memory used in that test favored ddr3 slightly:

DDR-2133 9-9-10-24 1N vs DDR4 DDR-2666 16-17-17-36 2N.





Yeah nowadays i try to avoid any hardware buys if they aren't throwing some free stuff (games or accessories) or some reduction in price.

I'm pretty sure he was referring to an OC'd 2500k versus stock speeds, which game setting/hardware recommendations are based on, of the newer iterations.

Interesting do you think going from a 4820K to a Intel 6700K would be a good boost in GTA and other games?

Not really no. They don't have the 4820K in the benches but the 4770K is close enough.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/16
 
Guys, the only way to get a big boost from a CPU upgrade is to go from 4 to 6-8-10 cores and even still it will happen only in those games where your GPU wasn't running at 100% load (which can easily be checked with MSI AB overlay in any game of your preference - well, any but a UWP one). If you're running at 100% GPU load you won't gain anything from a CPU upgrade.

I'm saying this as a person with a 980Ti which just moved from i7 3820 quad to i7 6850K hex. Some games are showing higher minimal fps and this result in a better experience but the overall average gain is close to benchmarking margin of error. So if you don't have any issues with your CPU/MB (like I had) then it's almost always a better choice to upgrade your GPU first. And only if that new GPU will show lower than ~100% load in games you play in your resolution / settings you may think about upgrading the CPU.
 
Guys, the only way to get a big boost from a CPU upgrade is to go from 4 to 6-8-10 cores and even still it will happen only in those games where your GPU wasn't running at 100% load (which can easily be checked with MSI AB overlay in any game of your preference - well, any but a UWP one).

I believe AB works for UWP titles if you have it send the data to a smartphone.
 
Guys, the only way to get a big boost from a CPU upgrade is to go from 4 to 6-8-10 cores and even still it will happen only in those games where your GPU wasn't running at 100% load (which can easily be checked with MSI AB overlay in any game of your preference - well, any but a UWP one). If you're running at 100% GPU load you won't gain anything from a CPU upgrade.

I'm saying this as a person with a 980Ti which just moved from i7 3820 quad to i7 6850K hex. Some games are showing higher minimal fps and this result in a better experience but the overall average gain is close to benchmarking margin of error. So if you don't have any issues with your CPU/MB (like I had) then it's almost always a better choice to upgrade your GPU first. And only if that new GPU will show lower than ~100% load in games you play in your resolution / settings you may think about upgrading the CPU.

And even then the game engine needs to be well coded to take advantage of more then 4 cores.
 
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