...Volta for gaming, we haven't announced anything. And all I can say is that our pipeline is filled with some exciting new toys for the gamers, and we have some really exciting new technology to offer them in the pipeline. But for the holiday season for the foreseeable future, I think Pascal is just unbeatable. It's just the best thing out there. And everybody who's looking forward to playing Call of Duty or Destiny 2, if they don't already have one, should run out and get themselves a Pascal.
Not sure if the right thread:
Jen-Hsun Huang - NVIDIA Corp.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4097851-nvidia-beats-sinks?page=2
Crap, I should have made an avatar bet with Dr_RusNot sure if the right thread:
Jen-Hsun Huang - NVIDIA Corp.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4097851-nvidia-beats-sinks?page=2
Now i feel much better about my decision to get get a GTX 1080 instead of waiting for Volta.
Not sure if the right thread:
Jen-Hsun Huang - NVIDIA Corp.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4097851-nvidia-beats-sinks?page=2
Crap, I should have made an avatar bet with Dr_Rus
I've been saying for some time now that Volta is unlikely to come out in gaming markets this year. We can all thank the miners and anemic Vega launch for this. NV doesn't feel neither competitors pressure nor any decrease in demand for Pascal products right now and so there's literally zero reason for them to update Pascal lineup this year.
...It actually goes even further than this with a somewhat distinct possibility that NV will skip Volta for gaming altogether and use the next (or "side"?) architecture for the next GeForce lineup. Fuad had some rumblings on this back in June. These are somewhat authentic.
GP100 used HBM2 and that didn't stop Nvidia from releasing other GPUs based on smaller Pascal chips that used GDDR5X. They may repeat that strategy with Volta.The dedicated follower of Pascal is now "a Pascal influenced design derived shrink down". With Maxwell architecture, Nvidia chose to optimise the GPU for better memory management. Back then, it became apparent to Nvidia that HBM and HBM 2 would not become mainstream in time for Pascal. Fudzilla already mentioned the fact that Pascal follower will not use HBM 2 memory.
Now, this looks like we were right as Volta-based V100 uses HBM 2 and Pascal fans will still stick with GDDR5X memory. Pascal-based GPUs will use the GDDR5X memory. That is ok; it works even at the highest possible settings.
Yea, certainly makes me feel better about my 1080ti purchase. Granted I got it on a pretty good deal. But if like to spend a little time with it before I need to sell it for maximum returns.
"There's no competition why the fuck should we release new videocards right now???"
Not sure why this thread was bumped, I posted this a while ago in this very same thread I think.
https://www.skhynix.com/eng/pr/pressReleaseView.do?seq=2086 first paragraph says it all, GDDR6 2018.
Not sure if the right thread:
Jen-Hsun Huang - NVIDIA Corp.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4097851-nvidia-beats-sinks?page=2
Gaming Volta was always pegged for 2018. People were just smoking too much hopium to read the leaves.
From the article:
GP100 used HBM2 and that didn't stop Nvidia from releasing other GPUs based on smaller Pascal chips that used GDDR5X. They may repeat that strategy with Volta.
The name of NVIDIA's next generation GPU architecture has just appeared over at Heise.de. From the looks of it, it's rumored that the next generation NVIDIA GPU architecture will be ”Ampere" and will succeed Pascal, at least in the gaming market.
ccording to Heise, NVIDIA is preparing a next generation GPU known as ”Ampere" which they are planning to unveil at GTC 2018. There are currently no details available but rumors are that NVIDIA will be jumping straight from Pascal to Ampere, at least on the GeForce front. The site alleges that the Ampere family of graphics cards will succeed the GeForce 10 series cards which are based on the Pascal GPU architecture.
Now considering this is just a rumor and no other details are mentioned, it's advised to take this information with a grain of salt. We know for a fact that the Volta GPU is the official replacement for the Pascal GPU, according to the roadmaps. There is no mention of an Ampere GPU till now and the road map past Volta is yet to be updated.
Volta is on the market, and lions share of datacenter gain you've posted above is because of Volta. Nothing is "skipped". Volta being used for gaming markets was a no go once they've said that it's going to be Pascal for the rest of 2017. There's no reason to use old Volta architecture for a gaming lineup in 2018.Well, scientists' names do make sense but I don't quite follow the "skip Volta".
(#poorvolta lol.)
How is it good news for AMD if Navi is expected in 2019 and current AMD's offerings are barely able to compete with Pascal?If true, good news for AMD, as GTC 2018 is late in March.
How is it good news for AMD if Navi is expected in 2019 and current AMD's offerings are barely able to compete with Pascal?
How is it good news for AMD if Navi is expected in 2019 and current AMD's offerings are barely able to compete with Pascal?
Volta was expected in Q1. Now newer tech gets announced late in March, so at least in Q1 2017 situation won't worsen for AMD (they also are likely to get positive momentum from server and notebook markets by that time, softening GPU fiasco).
What is the source of "Navi is expected in 2019"?
In May, AMD road map looked like this, Navi looked like 2018 to 2019 to me:
How would situation not worsen for AMD in 1Q18 is this is when NV will launch Ampere?Typo, I meant 2018.
Ramp up of production means that it's going out of risk and into actual production. If 16/14 is an indication for 7 then it'll be a year or so between this and the ability to mass produce mainstream GPUs on this process. So 2nd half of 2018 ramp means 2nd half of 2019 for GPUs most likely, maybe 1st half with very limited availability.GloFo promised first 7nm chips to ramp up production in 2h 2018.
Understandably, GF isn't best known to keeping up promises, but still:
anandtech
No, it has 50% more flops in the same wattage as GP100 which isn't a 28nm product. It's even faster in practice than raw flops comparison show actually because of improvements to caching and memory architectures so it's likely even above +50% in power efficiency to Pascal on average.Isn't Volta compute perf/watt leap huge only compared to 28nm products?
It is rumored to be announced at the end of March, which is the very end of calendar 1Q18.How would situation not worsen for AMD in 1Q18 is this is when NV will launch Ampere?
No, it has 50% more flops in the same wattage as GP100 which isn't a 28nm product. It's even faster in practice than raw flops comparison show actually because of improvements to caching and memory architectures so it's likely even above +50% in power efficiency to Pascal on average.
It is rumored to be announced at the end of March, which is the very end of calendar 1Q18.