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[Scrooge McDuck]

Don't be fooled Obi-Wan had a bae too.
Unless sarcasm lol.

From having an old flame to going undercover with criminal elements to having an actual archenemy, The Clone Wars was pushing Obi-Wan as the Star Wars Action Hero really hard.

 

[Rebel Leader]

so about that acting of princess leia in star wars episode 7

happy

sad

angry

also sw7 was a shitshow

Umm, excuse me but she shows more than that
Or troll?

 

[the_log_ride]

Umm, excuse me but she shows more than that
Or troll?

Dude calls Episode 7 a "shitshow." What do you think?

 

[D1renegade]

The prequels really weren't that bad

 

[Scrooge McDuck]

To be honest, the Emperor screws it up by constantly telling Luke, "ah good you're acting eviller now, please kill your dad and become totally evil." It even gives Luke a chance to realize he should stop because Old Sheevy interrupts things right when Luke has Vader pinned down and helpless.


(Also, I assume that the Emperor believed that even with Luke using the Dark Side, Luke would be no match for him, and with the Rebels defeated and Vader dead, Luke's spirit would be broken).


So yeah, no weird magical insta personality switch needed.

The Emperor hamming it up there was actually what gave me the impression that "falling to the Dark Side" is simply the breaking of some sort of a Force Fuse, after which the evilness would just flow through unchecked.

But yea, if we were to persist that the fall should be more, ah, subtle, we could reasonably assume the Emperor's plan was ultimately to capture Luke after the confrontation and then turn him gradually by torturing him with constant reminders of his failures? Maybe that's how it works? I admit I am not that well-versed in Star Wars magickery and am channeling anime tropes hard with this scenario.

 

[matrix-cat]

I'm still amazed that they made Episode III Sheev look so completely different to ROTJ Sheev. Like, did they not want to get some reference photos or something? Did nobody remember what one of the most memorable characters looked like? Where did all those weird flabby wrinkles come from?

They didn't have to do any makeup; I would have been perfectly happy to assume he just went all crusty over 20ish years ageing and being the Emperor, but instead they apparently decided it all had to happen right there on camera and they botched the makeup job.

You can't even make the argument that he maybe aged from Nu Sheev to OG Sheev, because Lucas went back and edited Nu Sheev into the ESB Blu Ray

 

[radios shipping overview]

They didn't have to do any makeup; I would have been perfectly happy to assume he just went all crusty over 20ish years ageing and being the Emperor, but instead they apparently decided it all had to happen right there on camera and they botched the makeup job.

You can't even make the argument that he maybe aged from Nu Sheev to OG Sheev, because Lucas went back and edited Nu Sheev into the ESB Blu Ray

That's a result of the tendency Lucas had with the PT to try to make connections with the OT, at every opportunity, always in the most obvious way, sometimes stretching credibility to do it. And then he went back to the originals to tweak some things to make his prequel tie-ups even more obvious, while leaving other inconsistencies alone.

It seems like his tweaks were mostly visual in nature, either because that's what was more important to him or because it was easier than cutting/revising dialogue.

 

[Imperfected]

To be honest, the Emperor screws it up by constantly telling Luke, "ah good you're acting eviller now, please kill your dad and become totally evil." It even gives Luke a chance to realize he should stop because Old Sheevy interrupts things right when Luke has Vader pinned down and helpless.

(Also, I assume that the Emperor believed that even with Luke using the Dark Side, Luke would be no match for him, and with the Rebels defeated and Vader dead, Luke's spirit would be broken).

So yeah, no weird magical insta personality switch needed.

To be fair to the Emperor, his past experience with Jedi had taught him that you can basically say whatever you want to them and they won't remember in five minutes.

My favorite is that Anakin's entire fall is predicated on, "I can save your wife, though." Then he gets back from betraying everyone he knows, murdering children, and getting maimed for the sake of this asinine plan to have Palpatine declare, "Woops, wife's dead and I can't help. Soooooorry!" This, somehow, does not cause Anakin to fly into a homicidal rage and rip the Emperor apart, or even reconsider the whole pledging fealty on the basis of a deal he gained nothing he was promised from.

I guess he just likes job security?

 

[Not]

I would take a Ewan Obi-Wan movie over a Han Solo movie 84 times out of 10

 

[Varna]

To be fair to the Emperor, his past experience with Jedi had taught him that you can basically say whatever you want to them and they won't remember in five minutes.

My favorite is that Anakin's entire fall is predicated on, "I can save your wife, though." Then he gets back from betraying everyone he knows, murdering children, and getting maimed for the sake of this asinine plan to have Palpatine declare, "Woops, wife's dead and I can't help. Soooooorry!" This, somehow, does not cause Anakin to fly into a homicidal rage and rip the Emperor apart, or even reconsider the whole pledging fealty on the basis of a deal he gained nothing he was promised from.

I guess he just likes job security?

I like Plinkett's bit on it. Um... my wife is going to give birth any day now. Can't we work on this revive magic now?

The whole fall to the darkside was just so badly done. Anakin has like zero reason to follow Sidious after he basically tells him that he can't do what he just promised.

Lucas should have just ripped of KOTOR 2 and said that constant war had slowly changed Anakin.

Aren't you thinking of Liam Neeson? I remember Neeson criticizing Menace/Attack of the Clones around the time the latter came out, but AFAIK Ewan has given Star Wars nothing but praise.

I don't have a source but Ewan has definitely taken shots at the prequels. I forgot what late night show it was but he definitely hinted at him thinking the Star Wars films he did weren't very good.

 

[The Silver]

To be fair to the Emperor, his past experience with Jedi had taught him that you can basically say whatever you want to them and they won't remember in five minutes.

My favorite is that Anakin's entire fall is predicated on, "I can save your wife, though." Then he gets back from betraying everyone he knows, murdering children, and getting maimed for the sake of this asinine plan to have Palpatine declare, "Woops, wife's dead and I can't help. Soooooorry!" This, somehow, does not cause Anakin to fly into a homicidal rage and rip the Emperor apart, or even reconsider the whole pledging fealty on the basis of a deal he gained nothing he was promised from.

I guess he just likes job security?

Well Anakin thinks he killed Padme himself, with literally nothing else to live for might as well keep rollin with Sheev and killin jedi who from "his point of view are evil".

In the comics he learns the truth about Padme's death and his kids and loses it, Sheev noticed it through the force and then practically dares Vader to try and start shit with him. From that point on he's pretty much just looking for Luke and biding time until he can overthrow Sheev.

 

[shoreu]

Huh...? When did they say that Darth Vader killed exclusively adult Jedi Knights and no one else?

He totally killed the younglings or at least converted them.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Well Anakin thinks he killed Padme himself, with literally nothing else to live for might as well keep rollin with Sheev and killin jedi who from "his point of view are evil".

In the comics he learns the truth about Padme's death and his kids and loses it, Sheev noticed it through the force and then practically dares Vader to try and start shit with him. From that point on he's pretty much just looking for Luke and biding time until he can overthrow Sheev.

Wow really?

Kinda surprised they had him looking out for Luje all along.

 

[The Silver]

Wow really?

Kinda surprised they had him looking out for Luje all along.

Well he learned the truth after A New Hope, so it wasn't all along but yeah.

 

[rashbeep]

Aren't you thinking of Liam Neeson? I remember Neeson criticizing Menace/Attack of the Clones around the time the latter came out, but AFAIK Ewan has given Star Wars nothing but praise.

I'll always hold the first three in the seventies in huge regard, and the that ones I did..... as the ones I did.

He liked the third one though.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

I'll always hold the first three in the seventies in huge regard, and the that ones I did..... as the ones I did.

He liked the third one though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwL8wlBMflA

 

[Poona]

I would take a Ewan Obi-Wan movie over a Han Solo movie 84 times out of 10

Yeah, I really hope they're working on it. Would help to get Yoda in it too, I think.

 

[DrForester]

Yeah, I really hope they're working on it. Would help to get Yoda in it too, I think.

Why would Yoda need to be in it? I can't imagine the story of how he went from incompetent to enlightened in the years between episode 3 and 4 is all that interesting

 

[Chuck]

I'll always hold the first three in the seventies in huge regard, and the that ones I did..... as the ones I did.

He liked the third one though.

He's right, the third one is good

 

[sixteen-bit]

Some clever editing there

 

[kame-sennin]

The Emperor hamming it up there was actually what gave me the impression that "falling to the Dark Side" is simply the breaking of some sort of a Force Fuse, after which the evilness would just flow through unchecked.

But yea, if we were to persist that the fall should be more, ah, subtle, we could reasonably assume the Emperor's plan was ultimately to capture Luke after the confrontation and then turn him gradually by torturing him with constant reminders of his failures? Maybe that's how it works? I admit I am not that well-versed in Star Wars magickery and am channeling anime tropes hard with this scenario.

George Lucas doesn't know how the darkside works.

 

[Aselith]

The instant bread is real

Spoiler

ish

 

[Poona]

Why would Yoda need to be in it? I can't imagine the story of how he went from incompetent to enlightened in the years between episode 3 and 4 is all that interesting

Ok, well he doesn't have to be in it. I just thought it would be nice to see him again and it would be good to have Obi Wan not always be by himself.

Since there will be no Anakin, I thought Yoda was most likely for him to work alongside at times. Though I guess they could use this to bring in Ahsoka to live action or just create a new character, unless they really want him as a lone wanderer.

 

[Duane Cunningham]

From having an old flame to going undercover with criminal elements to having an actual archenemy, The Clone Wars was pushing Obi-Wan as the Star Wars Action Hero really hard.

As someone currently watching CW for the first time... it's working for me. And I hope it turns out Satine moved in with him on Tatooine during the "hermit" years. Bring HER to live action. (well, and Ashoka and Rex, too.)

 

[Avixph]

I always wished there was some EU book about Mace surviving. He'd be a one-armed Jedi guerrilla fighting the Empire in the lower levels of Coruscant.

Well since we never saw his body we can assume that he's still alive like Darth Maul.

 

[Bishop89]

Well since we never saw his body we can assume that he's still alive like Darth Maul.

jackson is too old now , and so he couldnt fit in the timeline at all.. (maybe JUST before ANH but still)

 

[Mariolee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwL8wlBMflA

Never seen this before haha

 

[Obliterator]

That's not all he remembers

HOLY
FUCKING
SHIT

 

[SiegfriedFM]

From having an old flame to going undercover with criminal elements to having an actual archenemy, The Clone Wars was pushing Obi-Wan as the Star Wars Action Hero really hard.

As an aside, why the heck did they name her Satine like Ewan's character's love in Moulin Rouge?

 

[AniHawk]

give it up to Lucas to screw up his own character

those little kids don't look like adult Jedi Knights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZM__vY9DIw

 

[TheJollyCorner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZM__vY9DIw

I didn't want to laugh, but I did anyway.