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Oculus Rift available for preorder for $599.99, shipping in March
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UnrealEck
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The system requirements to run games in 4K at decent VR framerates would be way too high.
Maybe some time in the future. If they did do 4K now, most of the games would be graphically crippled due to astronomical graphics processing requirements. I imagine it'd probably be worse than the graphics PSVR will have if they had 4K on a GTX 970 requirement budget.
Yes, one for each eye.
Betta Lines
Member
And the answer is not just because the resolution is too low. The Gear VR has an inferior display in terms of refresh, pixel fill, global update, and low persistence. It has inferior lenses, with no physical IPD adjustment. The phone has inferior overall performance in terms of latency and rendering quality. It has no positional tracking. And so on.
All of these things contribute in part to why Gear VR is blurry, and you are underestimating the impact of all of these things functioning at a higher quality.
Such screens don't exist at the performance level required for VR.
Yes.
Yea its using 2 custom OLED screens (which is one of the main reason for the high price). PS VR will only be using 1 screen from the looks of things.
buenoblue
Member
Very good points that I didn't consider. I don't know now. It seems so expensive for what it is, especially that the pc is doing the processing.
HE NEEDS TO FUCKING STOP TALKING!
gaming_noob
Member
I can't wait to try this but will wait for the price to go down furst. Rift or Vive for me.
plagiarize
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HE NEEDS TO FUCKING STOP TALKING!
Sony are prepared to sell the PS4 at a loss. Oculus are selling at the point they break even. Expecting them to sell at a loss in Europe because of European taxes... well it's a bit much.
ISee
Member
That sounds like a more significant improvement then just going for higher resolution screens (didn't like the DK2 image quality at all).
Fuck now I'm tempted again and I swore to myself to not buy it for 741€.... ahhhhh.
Ovek
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I don't get the moaning about the UK price at least... I thought it was quite reasonable when compared to the American price.
UnrealEck
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He didn't say anything about PlayStation 4. Am I misunderstanding the reference?HE NEEDS TO FUCKING STOP TALKING!
Vive details will probably be coming more to light very soon. I read something about an April pre-order target here on the forums. By then you'll have a lot more to go on to make a decision.
I'm in the same boat. Albeit with a sooner Rift ship date.
Considering the tech I don't think it's too bad and to be honest I was thinking it would cost a bit more.
Probably single males with the disposable income to buy a beefy pc or already has a nice pc would buy this. From my perspective the demographic for this product is quite limited.
PSVR if priced well, could get some decent sales. Because the entirety of it would be more consumer friendly.
Still despite the praise and comments from others who've tried it, i'm still not too interested in it. Getting people interested will also be tough
Probably single males with the disposable income to buy a beefy pc or already has a nice pc would buy this. From my perspective the demographic for this product is quite limited.
PSVR if priced well, could get some decent sales. Because the entirety of it would be more consumer friendly.
Still despite the praise and comments from others who've tried it, i'm still not too interested in it. Getting people interested will also be tough
699. Once you add delivery 741.
It's not too far off from what you get if you look at the current exchange rate.
Ah, thanks. Seems they are adding tax (roughly 20%) on top of 599.
Maroon Gamer
Member
This is too much money. I hope that the PSVR doesn't go beyond 400$ plz Sony....
HE NEEDS TO FUCKING STOP TALKING!
That's still cheaper in the USA than in Europe.
DryvBy
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Here's the thing I'm not understanding: why are we forced to buy an Xbox controller and gyro set just to use the unit? Is the Xbox controller because of the partnership with Microsoft from E3 last year?
It seems removing these would lower the price to near $400-$450, which I find very reasonable.
It seems removing these would lower the price to near $400-$450, which I find very reasonable.
UnrealEck
Member
Palmer said that the controller costs very little for them to bundle.
What's the gyro set?
Dreamwriter
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It depends on the state where it is ordered from - each state in the U.S. has a different sales tax, some have no tax at all. Because of that, they aren't figuring taxes into the price until it ships (but when they do, sales taxes are usually somewhere between, 7% and 10%). Oculus is charging $30 for shipping, so pre-tax the U.S. price is $629.
Wrestlemania
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HE NEEDS TO FUCKING STOP TALKING!
Using today's exchange rates:
PS4
$399 x 0.69 x 1.2 = £330. So less than the £349 we were charged. Not massively so, but we were charged more than just the additional 20% VAT.
Rift
$599 x 0.69 x 1.2 = £495. So £4 less, but the expected marginal bump to a typical price point.
He's right.
Felix Lighter
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Where I live it's 6%, in Delaware there is no sales tax. I'm not sure the highest since in some areas both the state and municipality charge sales tax but it appears to top out around 11% from a quick glance.
Also, the PS4 picture, in 2012 the euro was much higher vs the usd.
You guys going "OMFG the price is astronomically high, blah blah blah....", DO know that the PS3 also had an incredibly high price and yet it still sold like hotcakes, right?
There are a lot of people, including myself, that feel that price is almost never a factor in the things we want, providing it's something that is within our grasp. I probably make less than a lot of you and yet I'm still so ecited about VR that I won't even blink an eye over whether to get a Rift or not. I'm getting one regardless. It could have been $2000USD and I'd still get one.
But then again I'm just *little* crazier than some of you, since I'm about to spend $5,000USD on a force feedback steering wheel, and $1400USD on a set of foot pedals xD
There are a lot of people, including myself, that feel that price is almost never a factor in the things we want, providing it's something that is within our grasp. I probably make less than a lot of you and yet I'm still so ecited about VR that I won't even blink an eye over whether to get a Rift or not. I'm getting one regardless. It could have been $2000USD and I'd still get one.
But then again I'm just *little* crazier than some of you, since I'm about to spend $5,000USD on a force feedback steering wheel, and $1400USD on a set of foot pedals xD
Balmung421
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Worked through the day/took a nap thinking about whether or not I wanted to preorder it.
Went ahead and put my order in; June is a good for me since I imagine most of the initial hiccups/drivers will be sorted out.
Also, their program said my i7-3770K is not up to par for VR (along with my usb 3.0 ports which I will rectify with a pcie card since I have no open ports anyway). Understandable since it is a few years old now, but hopefully it isn't a huge bottleneck. Scored 17912 on that firemark 3d benchmark so hopefully I am good.
Went ahead and put my order in; June is a good for me since I imagine most of the initial hiccups/drivers will be sorted out.
Also, their program said my i7-3770K is not up to par for VR (along with my usb 3.0 ports which I will rectify with a pcie card since I have no open ports anyway). Understandable since it is a few years old now, but hopefully it isn't a huge bottleneck. Scored 17912 on that firemark 3d benchmark so hopefully I am good.
Alx
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Not really, most people consider its high price is a big factor in its slow start and the increased competition from the 360, while before its anouncement it was a given that Sony would dominate the generation. Some even agreed with the infamous "The PS3 would sell even if it had no games".
It probably does, so does the case, so does that fancy IR camera stand, and the curvy design of the headset, and the headphones, and using IR rather than visual... and...
If they had actually tried to control the costs, the headset would probably be nearer $400.
I think Oculus have a wonderful design team, but have no idea what they're doing commercially.
Dreamwriter
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DryvBy
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Ah my bad. I thought the PS Move/Hydra controllers were included.
MatrixMan.EXE
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HE NEEDS TO FUCKING STOP TALKING!
You're actually proving his point with this post.
Dreamwriter
Member
Yeah, it's called Oculus Touch, those aren't even going on sale until the second half of 2016.
ehh... it's not the fact most people can't afford it (ofc they can), but with prize that high no one wants to make a "blind shot". Tech is amazing but everything comes down to the software...
Do I really want to spend 700 euros (Poland) + probably taxes on something that may not even have anything interesting on it for about a year? The answers is pretty obvious.
HTC Vive is even more impressive with visuals, wondering about their prize...
Do I really want to spend 700 euros (Poland) + probably taxes on something that may not even have anything interesting on it for about a year? The answers is pretty obvious.
HTC Vive is even more impressive with visuals, wondering about their prize...
Fallout-NL
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Well, seeing as how they're now up to June already (with expected shipping), I've placed my order for one.
ScriptedReality
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I preordered for the sake of doing it but i'm hoping Sony has a cheaper tag.
gaming_noob
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mangochutney
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1) You can't use today's exchange rate for a price announced well over 2 years ago. The rate in 2013 when PS4 price was announced actually lowers the relative £ cost.
2) Your price isn't based on the exchange rate of the day. You have to know the markets and analyse where you think a currency is headed. You can't just price it based on the rates when you launch otherwise you will be constantly changing your price if things take a turn for the worse. Something we have actually seen done a few times recently, PS+ for example has been readjusted in a few markets.
You have to add a buffer in if you think there's good potential for changes to rates.
So yes, the Rift is fairly priced, but pointing to the PS4 isn't valid.
ashecitism
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lol
Betta Lines
Member
By most accounts (and on paper) they're very similar. If anything, I've seen more positive words towards the Rift, although that could be because it has remained a step ahead of the Vive in terms of being consumer-ready, so the hardware was more likely to give the better first impression at each showing.
artsi
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Every time I step into the thread there's many people who don't really understand VAT and customs. The European price is very close to the $599 + VAT (23% in Ireland) so it's not that unfair.
For the same reason in Finland we pay 50,000 for a Mustang that costs $25,000 in the US. I need to complain to the government to fix that, not Ford.
For the same reason in Finland we pay 50,000 for a Mustang that costs $25,000 in the US. I need to complain to the government to fix that, not Ford.
ISee
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Thank you.
So maybe that's how it works. We are paying taxes twice. And this doesn't even surprise me that much. If I fly to the U.S. and buy a laptop for 1000$ I have to pay the tax there (whatever it is) and then pay an extra 19% on top of the 1000$ when I return to germany.
D
Deleted member 10571
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Well this was the most un-stealthy channel advertisement I've ever seen on GAF. At least take some time to create a post, dude.
jmaine_ph
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Shameless is my middle name lol.
I'm speaking from my experience. Had them both on my head and Vive looked way more polished.