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Odd/infamous hidden boss battles in RPG's

JRPereira

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So, after getting a warmup with culex, I'm hungering for more odd/hidden boss battle video ideas.

What's your favorite odd/infamous boss battle in an RPG?
 
If you like or care about Emerald and Ruby from FF7, i'd like to see you trying to beat them the more effectively possible.

Your target:

- Killing Emerald without the underwater materia in under 5 mins.
- Killing Ruby without even having the possibility of dying.
 
Wyzdom said:
- Killing Emerald without the underwater materia in under 5 mins.

darth_penis.jpg
Blah?! That's like doing ozma with one character. My brain just exploded trying to come up with a plan for that one.

Wyzdom said:
- Killing Ruby without even having the possibility of dying.

Do you get to use hades? or no?

Sugarman said:
Wasn't Bahumat in Mario rpg?

Yea, but he was just a red goofy looking dragon guy, and a normal (albiet unusually tough) enemy that magikoopa or the treasure chest monsters would summon.
 
I've always thought some of Live A Live's extra bosses in the final chapter were kinda cool... one of them attacked you if you've run away from 100 battles (a countdown starts once you've ran away 95 times), and there's another uber powerful boss who will attack if you run away from the final battle.
 
Warmech in FF1.

Sephiroth in KH. Actually I still haven't beat him yet. I should go back in celebration of KHII and try to beat him again just to complete the game.

Ozma in FFIX was a little bitch. I found him and fought him and didn't even know who he was and then I found some little animals on the world map that said something like "You will never beat Ozma" and I was like screw you buddy, Ozmas dead. Come to find out you were supposed to find all of them friendly animals and it made the ozma battle even easier.
 
An earlier topic had what the player did posted; I'll look for it.

Basically the player had a whole lot of 'command counter' Materia equipped (like 8), so after using a couple Hero Drinks (ups most/all stats), the player had Barett use Ungarmax, then Emerald attacked him, and he then countered with Ungarmax 8 times or so.
 
Here's the topic:

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=57652

Here's my explanation post:
Yes, you can mime your own limit break.

Since I'm talking out of my ass, I'll go action by action for you:

Battle Starts

Cloud uses the W-Item command, to use two Hero Drinks (increases Power / Speed / Defense / Magic Power / Spirit / Luck) on Barret.

Barret uses the Ungarmax limit.

Emerald Weapon uses Emerald Shoot on Barret.

Game switches to show at least two mastered Mimic Materia equipped to Barret, connected to at least two mastered Command Counter Materia.

Barret uses Mimic, to do Ungarmax again multiple times via the Mastered Mimic + Command Counter Materia combos he has equipped.

I beat Emerald the first time with Lucky 7777, then a couple KotR. Nowhere near as quick as this, but it was right after the game came out.

I just watched the video again, and that's what the player did. Probably all 16 Materia slots are filled with master Mimic and Command Counter Materia 8 times. Considering the player counters I think 6 times with it, that should be the case.
No, I can never remember if his name is spelled Barret or Barett.
 
My Arms Your Hearse said:
I don't think it would be possible to defeat Ozma with only one character.

Just not happening.

Considering that Ozma is beatable at level 1, Ozma may be beatable with 1 character. May.


JRPereira: the video opens in Media Player Classic for me. Try getting that.
 
well hey I wouldn't mind reading about it. It sounds damn-near impossible considering that you'd have to somehow get to him and still be level 1.
 
Skies of Arcadia has this monsterous chao-type thing hidden in it. You had to go online to unlock it.

Also, Medusa in the first Phantasy Star.
 
My Arms Your Hearse said:
I'm assuming Ozma doesn't use Meteor (or whatever the spell is) in that battle.

He isn't so hard then!

what about curse? I remember having to allocate most of the stones or whatever they were to abilities to ward off curse's terrible aftereffects.
 
Here's what looks like is happening in that level 1 Ozma video:

Party is Freija, Eiko, Zidane, Quina (duh)

Ozma uses Jihad. Damages Ozma and heals some party members.
Zidane uses 'Proof of Thievery' and does 9999 damage to Ozma.
Ozma Berserks Zidane.
Eiko uses some item that does 9999 damage to Ozma.
Ozma casts Cure 3 on itself.
Ozma uses Curse on the party (various status ailments).
Quina uses Limit Glove (I think that's what it is called) or whatever that Blue Magic is that does 9999 damage if Quina has 1HP.
Ozma Berserks Quina.
Freija uses that Dragon Seal or whatever ability (more damage as you defeat more dragon monsters) for 9999 damage to Ozma.
Berserk Zidane attacks Ozma for 23 damage. OUCH
Eiko cures Zidane's "mini" status.
Ozma casts Meteo and kills the party.
Party is re-raised (party probably has the Re-Raise ability that allows being brought back to life once).
Ozma casts Cure 3 on itself.
Freija uses Dragon Seal or whatever again for 9999 damage to Ozma.
Zidane uses 'Proof of Thievery' and does 9999 damage to Ozma.
Ozma casts Flare on Zidane and kills him.
Quina uses Limit Glove for 9999 damage to Ozma.
Ozma dies.

That's what it looks like that is happening, but I have not played FF9 for about a year or a little longer, and am used to the Japanese version, so I don't know what the US names are for what the characters are doing.

Ozma casts Meteo once. Ozma also uses Curse, but neither what Zidane does for 9999 damage (Proof of Thievery) nor Freija's Dragon Seal or whatever are affected by mini status.

The player looks like he has equipment that nullifies or heals the party when Jihad is cast (anti shadow? or something), and the party dies from the casting of Meteo. I don't think the fight had anywhere that the party cast any spells that did re-raise, so that makes me believe that the ability to be brought back to life once per battle was equipped on each party member.

As for the text file, it's either a guide on just beating Ozma at level 1 and/or a whole game guide for doing so, which is at gamefaqs.
 
You can equip auto-life, which will work once. Auto spells are the only way to beat him, period.

That is really impressive, but not so much the fight... just the trouble to get the setup. While he did use meteor, he only really "attacked" twice. He can be far far far more brutal than that.

The thing is, I was always under the impression that dragons killed and the like had to be with Freya/X character in the party?

Then again, I suppose you can just get the curse/sickness ailment on you so you never gain any exp... talk about psycho. You have to steal LOTS of shit to get 9999 with Zidane's attack. Getting Freya's attack up is quite simple. Frog Drop is another pretty easy 9999 hit attack for Quina (most awesome character <3).

They had shadow absorb gear on.
 
Yeah it's probably pretty safe to say that Freija had 'virus' status while killing dragons.
Pretty sure that Quina is using Limit Glove and not Frog Drop though, unless that is what Frog Drop looks like; while Limit Glove is a very easy 9999 (just be at 1HP).

Maybe the item Eiko used was a Gyshal Vegetable or whatever..that's all I can think of that does damage.
 
No, that wasn't Frog Drop. It looks just like it sounds... just wondering why he didn't use it as the animation is much faster. It is obvious whoever did this has a ton of patience... it isn't that hard to catch all those frogs.
 
Honestly, KHII's
Sephiroth optional boss battle
COMPLETELY owns. It's where the devs went balls-to-the-wall: when
he casts meteo
, it's literally the only time in the 80 hours I played where the engine started dropping frames :D
 
Speaking of those guys, I can never remember where one of the friendly monsters are anymore..the 'Feather Circle'. I'm thinking its on the ice continent, but I couldn't find it the last time I played and it's blank in my text file.

It's the 3rd to last one in the chain, after Jabberwock and before Garuda.

Maybe it costs too much MP for Frog Drop, Quen is unbeatable at level 1, or some stats affect the damage (magic power/level). But either way, Limit Glove is a guaranteed 9999 damage if Quina has 1HP.
 
As we are on the subject of FFIX (mostly)... I'll never understand the seething HATRED on this board for the game.

Best PSX FF (Tactics excluded) and probably my second favorite overall. Some of the best characters ever (Zidane excluded).
 
GhaleonEB said:
Also, Medusa in the first Phantasy Star.

Medusa wasn't really hidden, nor was she that difficult.

Killing Saccubus during your stay at the governor's mansion, however, is tricky yet entirely possible.
 
My Arms Your Hearse said:
Obligatory "
Freya
on 4D" mention.

Hah. =|

Ragu Ragula in Wild Arms 2 was a helluva a fiend and tough boss battle. In fact, WA2 had tons of great optional boss battles as did WA1 and WA3.
 
I've always thought FFVIII's Omega Weapon was tough as hell.

Oh, and I loved FFVI's 'maneater' like character that was weak as hell, but if you let him eat you, there was an entire fucking level inside of him :lol
 
LakeEarth said:
I've always thought FFVIII's Omega Weapon was tough as hell.

Oh, and I loved FFVI's 'maneater' like character that was weak as hell, but if you let him eat you, there was an entire fucking level inside of him :lol

Zone eater
 
Hideon in FF6.
bastard.

and whatever that super-pissed Mech was on the long hallway in the original Final Fantasy.

edit: Gosh dang, FF6 was awesome.
 
Does a youtube exist of the hidden boss fight in Zelda: A Link to the Past? the one some guy won the contest for or something? Don't know too much about it.
 
I just beat Elidibs in the Deep Dungeon of Final Fantasy Tactics for the first time tonight...that guy has a lot of HP, more than Altima if I'm not mistaken.

I'm just about to replay VII, and I've never beaten Emerald or Ruby Weapons, thanks for the inspiration!
 
I removed Indalecio's limiter by mistake on my first play through Star Ocean 2, and then saved my game. I didn't like the results of that. I didn't like them at all.

The amount of time I spent leveling up my characters after that was roughly equal to what it would have taken to start the game all over again and beat it without doing that, and I never did beat him. :(
 
Joe Molotov said:
I removed Indalecio's limiter by mistake on my first play through Star Ocean 2, and then saved my game. I didn't like the results of that. I didn't like them at all.

The amount of time I spent leveling up my characters after that was roughly equal to what it would have taken to start the game all over again and beat it without doing that, and I never did beat him. :(

Haha. I remember doing that on my "second play-thru for secrets" where I went into the Cave of Trials. I like how the end boss of that makes Unleashed Indy seem rather tame (or was it the stupid amount of leveling I did to beat the CoT?)
 
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