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Official 2007 MLB Thread - The quest for another .500 champion
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funkmastergeneral
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wow that poor guy really can't grow a beard
siamesedreamer
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McCann traded to the Royals.......
funkmastergeneral said:
I have the exact same thing. I hate it. I just want to not shave for awhile and grow a nice stubbly beard to let people know I'm lazy but can't help but look ruggedly good. Instead I look creepily indecisive. The facial hair options are so damn limited.
If I could just take some of the hair from my ass, and patch it on where I need it more, things would really be looking up.
evil solrac v3.0
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siamesedreamer said:
say what?
siamesedreamer
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His Brother 
BigJonsson
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RIP Rod Beck
And when is Chacin supposed to be back?
And when is Chacin supposed to be back?
BigJonsson said:
The Blue Jays don't even mention Chacin anymore. Last I heard he still felt pain when he threw but they couldn't find any damage.
You can group him with League and Ryan as guys who probably won't be back this year if ever. Also as guys who might not be as good as they were before they were injured.
Forgotten Ancient
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ToxicAdam said:
To Detroit fans, their bullpen is a scary, scary thing.
We just need to force complete games for all our starters. :lol
siamesedreamer
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ToxicAdam said:
I just can't get over the power arms they've stocked up on the past few years.
Dombrowski is as good of a talent evaluator as there is in the game. Could you imagine him with Steinbrenner's checkbook?
Forgotten Ancient said:To Detroit fans, their bullpen is a scary, scary thing.
We just need to force complete games for all our starters. :lol
Well, every team has a weakness ... and a lot of their bullpen problems have been caused by injuries. When you have a lineup hitting like the Tigers are ... they can easily overcome those problems.
This might be old news to some of you guys, but I just heard about it this weekend.
Remember Rick Ankiel? That St. Louis fireballer that came out of nowhere and lit up the league as a rookie pitcher? Then spectaculary flamed out in the playoffs and following season?
Well, they have remade him into a power-hitting left fielder!! He is 28 years old now and is batting .275/.313/.570 in AAA Memphis with 11 homers and 39 RBIs. If the Cardinals keep up the dismal season, they could be forced to call him up at some point and give him a looksee.
I'm pulling for the guy, it would be an amazing story.
Remember Rick Ankiel? That St. Louis fireballer that came out of nowhere and lit up the league as a rookie pitcher? Then spectaculary flamed out in the playoffs and following season?
Well, they have remade him into a power-hitting left fielder!! He is 28 years old now and is batting .275/.313/.570 in AAA Memphis with 11 homers and 39 RBIs. If the Cardinals keep up the dismal season, they could be forced to call him up at some point and give him a looksee.
I'm pulling for the guy, it would be an amazing story.
CajoleJuice
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You saw that on Deadspin didn't you? It was posted a few days back. I'm pretty sure he has not 11, but 19 home runs.
CajoleJuice said:
Actually, I heard it on ESPN radio over the weekend. I think Mel Kiper/Tim Kirchen were talking about it.
Those stats I pulled were from the end of May. So, he might have more HR's by now. It looks like the Cards have run out of options on the guy. So they would have to be pretty sure he will stick with the club before they call him up.
Forgotten Ancient
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Nice series against the Braves for the Tigers. 
Too bad I pretty much am relegated to watching score updates on ESPN, as I'm always stuck at work during broadcasts.
Too bad I pretty much am relegated to watching score updates on ESPN, as I'm always stuck at work during broadcasts.
Forgotten Ancient
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Karakand said:
Not familiar with sopcast
I wouldn't get in trouble for watching the games at work (I have my laptop running episodes of the office right now).
Download this:Forgotten Ancient said:Not familiar with sopcast
I wouldn't get in trouble for watching the games at work (I have my laptop running episodes of the office right now).
http://www.sopcast.org/download/
Go to the MLB section of this site:
http://www.myp2p.eu/
Click the sopcast links by the game you want
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Profit
Sigh.
It was fun while it lasted, but it's really painfully evident, especially now that the Mets are turning it around and the Phils are getting better:
The Braves are not going to the post-season this year. Our pitching is too inconsistent and/or just plain bad, and our offense is pressing to try and make up for it; by doing that, they're in the toilet.
We need to start drafting nothing but pitching. We just don't have any good pitching prospects from what I can tell and we're stocked up on good position players, but with the way things are working, 1 good pitching prospect = 2 or 3 good position prospects.
It was fun while it lasted, but it's really painfully evident, especially now that the Mets are turning it around and the Phils are getting better:
The Braves are not going to the post-season this year. Our pitching is too inconsistent and/or just plain bad, and our offense is pressing to try and make up for it; by doing that, they're in the toilet.
We need to start drafting nothing but pitching. We just don't have any good pitching prospects from what I can tell and we're stocked up on good position players, but with the way things are working, 1 good pitching prospect = 2 or 3 good position prospects.
BigJonsson
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R_GILL said:
Shitty deal :S
That's the thing, though- the best way to have quality pitching for a long time is to draft and develop it your damn self, since most teams that can will lock up good major league pitchers to deals that will cover their peak years. By the time a guy hits free agency, he's likely already peaked and will be massively overpaid for his declining years (see Zito, Barry). Trading for a guy who is about to be a free agent is risky too; he could either turn out to not be quite as good as you thought (see Hudson, Tim) or bolt to another team after he spends a few months with your team (see Colon, Bartolo).ToxicAdam said:
No, we should try and stockpile as many good young pitchers as humanly possible. Worked for the Tigers. I mean, it's not like it's a revolutionary idea or anything, and we pretty much came up with it anyhow which is why our recent failure to cultivate anything better than league average pitchers is so mind boggling and infuriating.
The Frankman
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I remember him stealing the NL ROtY from Jay Payton in 2000. It all worked out becuse Payton got revenge in the postseason that year.Y2Kev said:
Triumph Dolomite 1300cc said:
Yea, but the Tigers had to suffer through 4-5 years of 100 loss seasons. Even one season where all of those "young guns" flirted with 20 loss seasons (Maroth and Bonderman).
That's an impossible pill to swallow for a 90 million dollar payroll team coming off of an unprecedented run of playoff success.
I know the Mets and the Phillies are slightly better than the Braves now .. but the difference isn't THAT great. I think the Phillies are a streaky offense with an abysmal bullpen. Very beatable.
Verlander didn't. He dominated from the start.ToxicAdam said:
And really, I am honestly looking forward to the end of the Bobby Cox/John Scheurholz era. Sure, we accomplished incredible things under them, but we don't have the pitching required to compete at an elite level in baseball today, and won't at our current payroll level until we can get several good young guys in there at once.
Actually though, we COULD conceivably spend some money on pitchers this offseason, but like I said that's a really dicey proposition.
Forgotten Ancient
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Karakand said:
Uauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu WOW
Did I miss any other awesome things on the internet? How did I not know about this? Thanks!
Forgotten Ancient
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ToxicAdam said:
Yeah, it was painful going through 10 or so years without even breaking .500. How I ever thought Bobby Higginson and Jeff Weaver were AWESOME is beyond me. It was so bad that Juan Encarnacion was super hyped back around 1999 and I was excited we got past-their-prime stars like Juan Gonzalez and Hideo Nomo. Not breaking .500 in 2000 crushed my Tigers spirit.
Looks like things are on the up.
I haven't been this excited for the Tigers since we had Cecil, Fryman, Whittaker, Deer, and Tettleton. :lolThe Frankman
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Y2Kev said:
Tony: "I can't believe he didn't like us!!"
Damion: "Yeah man, I'm hurt."
Forgotten Ancient
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The Frankman said:
Tony: "I can't believe he didn't like us!!"
Damion: "Yeah man, I'm hurt."
lol, I loved Easley and Clark too. I remember thinking we got Easley on a bargain and that Clark was going to more than replace Cecil Fielder after we "gambled" him away for Ruben Sierra.
Man, we were awful. Justin Thompson and Matt Anderson were the future of our staff at one point.
Yeah...those were trying times.
And that was all before "119".
R_GILL said:
Just a correction on this. League is not in this group. He's already throwing in AAA, and has regained much of his lost velocity. Expect him in the bullpen by the allstar break. If things go right, maybe Casey Janssen gets moved to the rotation and our guys 1-5 can go toe to toe with any rotation in the league.
In the next stretch of games, the Blue Jays face all of the teams ahead of them in the wild card race. Minnesota,Seattle,Oakland, and Cleveland, with the first three series being on the road. After the allstar break they face the Red Sox and Yankees back to back away from home as well. This is gonna be one tough stretch of games.
I don't know about League, I have been following his rehab assignments in the milb and he has seemed to struggle at AAA and A. Also I remember the Syracuse commentators saying that he was throwing at around 93 consistently. I think League needs to throw around 97-98 to be effective. For our sake though I hope he can come back as good as he was.
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Triumph Dolomite 1300cc said:
The fact that the two highest payroll teams, the yankees and the red sox, have done exactly that and have some crazy pitching talent in the pipeline has to be scary for the rest of the league. Hughes and Bucholz could be dominating for years at a league minimum pricetag if things swing the right way.
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