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Official 2007 MLB Thread - The quest for another .500 champion

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Cloudy said:
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LOL @ Yahoo Sports
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:lol
 
vas_a_morir said:
Yeah, if that pissed you off, you should watch Ken Griffey Jr. or Manny Ramirez when they hit a regular home run. They always pause really cocky.
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Robbie Alomar off Dennis Eckersly in 1992, best pose ever
 
Dale Murphy rips Bonds a new one:

Here are excerpts of Murphy's words:
"I'd have called sooner, guys, but I had to get my car pulled out of the ditch I just drove into. This is a great teaching moment for a parent. You can explain to your kids why you're not watching [Bonds] and why it doesn't interest you.
"Even in a court of law, which this isn't, in my opinion, you can have a preponderance of circumstantial evidence to convict somebody. Now, maybe I'm wrong, but when you get enough stuff on a guy, you can make a decision. It's really a no-brainer.
"[Bonds] would have become one of the great ones, anyway. Now, he sucked the fun and the life right out of it. There is enough evidence to me to say without a doubt that he used performance-enhancing drugs. He hit 73 home runs when he was 37. Hank would have hit 855 if he had the same advantage.
"Barry's a great player, but he put an asterisk by his name on his own. He's deserved all the negative publicity that he's getting. People have been complaining that he's being treated unfairly. Life isn't usually like that. You don't just get treated unfairly. You usually get what you deserve.
"This is what Barry deserves. He's a hard guy to like. He's a hard teammate to have. He's set a terrible example for our kids.
"That's what you say to your kids. You say, 'This is what happens when you take steroids. Your dad doesn't want to watch this, because it's drug abuse.'
"It's frustrating. . . . Giants fans love it, and they are blinded by it. Most people put an asterisk by it. They have a problem with how [Bonds] has gone about his career. That's what I tell my kids.
"There are a lot of [major leaguers] who are not being totally honest with how they feel about what Barry's done . . . You take an anonymous poll of what players think and you'd have more Curt Schillings. The guy's a great talent, but when you take exceptional talent and increase it with drug abuse, that's what you get.
"It's never been legal to abuse a controlled substance . . . A lot of guys decided not to do it, even though they weren't testing. I decided not to do it. I thought it was wrong. It was illegal. I said, 'I'm not going to do that.' [Bonds] has a trainer sitting in prison because he won't testify against Bonds.
"He hasn't denied it. He said he took it, but didn't know what it was. We found out later it was steroids.
"You just have to teach your kids to make judgments in life. You're not always going to have all the facts, but you've got to make judgments. I understand in this country you're innocent until proven guilty, but this isn't a law case, this is how you feel.
"People don't think [Bonds] did it the right way. I know he [used performance-enhancers]. I don't have a problem saying I know he did. It's obvious.
"I've got to take a deep breath here.
"I've said it all before, but for some reason we love our sports so much that we sometimes are so forgiving . . . But this is a great example of how not to handle your career, and how not to treat people.
"We've got to change the culture in sports.
"I just had to get that off my chest."
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Salt Lake Tribune
 
Kevtones said:
fucking awesome to watch live
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Yeah, even though I'm not a fan of Bonds, that was pretty awesome.

And that mob was crazy! Did anyone see the police escort the lucky fan out? :lol There were probably 20+ cops surrounding him.
 
Karakand said:
One of the last summers I had with my dad was the Sosa-McGwire chase to break 61. I really can't describe how awesome that time was for me. Like a lot of older people my dad treated that record with incredible amounts of reverence and we ended up spending a lot of time together watching Cubs / Cardinals games on TV and when we weren't doing that we were always talking about whether or not they could do it over the breakfast (or dinner) table. My mom was so sick of this that I remember her celebrating the hardest when all of us watched Roid Mac finally hit 62. :lol

Anyways, after seeing Bonds break that record so quickly, and the subsequent revelations about the steroid era, any enthusiasm I might have had for stuff like 756 has been completely snuffed out. (The absence of my dad doesn't help, either.) I'm not even offended that Barry now holds the record. Just... apathetic. I don't know, it's kind of depressing in a LiveJournal kind of way. :-/

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I know what you mean man. I went with my dad to the HR Derby at Turner Field back in 2000. We had fantastic seats about 25 rows behind the Braves dugout on the 1B line. The balls Sosa hit were unbelievable. We still compare tape measured shots hit at the Ted to those balls he mashed.

My dad is still alive now, but knowing that Sosa was juicing totally cheapens what was otherwise a very special night for us. :/
 
siamesedreamer said:
I know what you mean man. I went with my dad to the HR Derby at Turner Field back in 2000. We had fantastic seats about 25 rows behind the Braves dugout on the 1B line. The balls Sosa was hitting were unbelievable. We still compare tape measured shots hit at the Ted to those balls he mashed.

My dad is still alive now, but knowing that Sosa was juicing totally cheapens what was otherwise a very special night for us. :/
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you honestly didn't know that Sosa was juicing back then? The guy looked like a shaven gorilla for crissakes.
 
Wow i watched the SF giants announcer's call of the home run first and now just saw the espn call....the announcers at espn suck, the giants call was soooooo much better.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
you honestly didn't know that Sosa was juicing back then? The guy looked like a shaven gorilla for crissakes.
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When I look at footage from that era yeah there's no doubt in my mind but back then I was a dumb ass suburban kid that didn't know any better. Leave me be with my nostalgia caused by naiveté!
 
Blue Jays fucking suck, and not only do they suck but it seems like none of them fucking care that they suck either. Fuck it I don't care anymore. Fire that fucker Ricciardi, his little bitch Gibbons, and the rest of the crappy coaching staff. I really don't know how they can fix this team though. No good positional prospects past low A except Lind. No superstar pitchers just a bunch of guys who are end of the rotation guys and Romero who is a 2/3. What a fucking mess.
 
Congrats Barry.

This asterisk crap is crazy. I'm a huge sports fan, but man do some people take sports way to seriously. It's just baseball. The man broke a record, get over it. It's just a sport.

Same thing with the NFL Hall of Fame. Stop crying and telling these silly stories at the podium. All you did is play football.
 
sportzhead said:
Congrats Barry.

This asterisk crap is crazy. I'm a huge sports fan, but man do some people take sports way to seriously. It's just baseball. The man broke a record, get over it. It's just a sport.

Same thing with the NFL Hall of Fame. Stop crying and telling these silly stories at the podium. All you did is play football.
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nooooooo
 
Posted the same Congratulations to Mr. Bond in the other topic, felt it needed to be here too, after all the work I put into it

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Congratulations!
 
Josh Towers needs a class A beatdown

I heard somebody chirping when I was talking to Lyle [Overbay] ... Tony Pena is running his mouth off and I was like, 'What's this guy running his mouth off for?' This dude is a quitter. He managed a team and quit in the middle of the season because he couldn't hack it.
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What a punk.
 
R_GILL said:
Blue Jays fucking suck, and not only do they suck but it seems like none of them fucking care that they suck either. Fuck it I don't care anymore. Fire that fucker Ricciardi, his little bitch Gibbons, and the rest of the crappy coaching staff. I really don't know how they can fix this team though. No good positional prospects past low A except Lind. No superstar pitchers just a bunch of guys who are end of the rotation guys and Romero who is a 2/3. What a fucking mess.
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You said it. I've been giving Ricciardi the benefit of the doubt over the past couple of seasons, what with seemingly every one of his "prize" free agent signings getting injured etc., but enough is enough. Time for Mr. "Go ahead and fire me, I could get another job in two seconds" to put his money where his mouth is.
 
Y2Kev said:
when did vernon wells dive off a cliff
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I don't even know what the hell is wrong with him. One year he is a beast the next he sucks ass. Bret Saberhagen total.

jman2050 said:
Josh Towers needs a class A beatdown



What a punk.
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Yeah Towers talks a lot of shit for a guy who fucking sucks.

BigJonsson said:
The Jays need a catcher who can throw out base stealers, its embarassing watching teams run with impunity on Zaun
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Yeah that would be nice, but not many defensive catchers coming up the ranks in the system. The best defensive catcher is Jeroloman and he is all the way down in High A and he will probably be only be a backup unless he learns how to hit. Thigpens arm is just as bad as Zauns and the other guy at AAA, Diaz is decent I guess.

What we really need is a SS who isn't a friggen black hole, I like McDonald and would love him to see him on the team as a utility infielder/bench guy but shit he should not be playing everyday. It just hurts our shitty lineup of underachievers even more to have an automatic out hitting 9th.
 
R_GILL said:
Blue Jays fucking suck, and not only do they suck but it seems like none of them fucking care that they suck either. Fuck it I don't care anymore. Fire that fucker Ricciardi, his little bitch Gibbons, and the rest of the crappy coaching staff. I really don't know how they can fix this team though. No good positional prospects past low A except Lind. No superstar pitchers just a bunch of guys who are end of the rotation guys and Romero who is a 2/3. What a fucking mess.
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I agree. I haven't been following the team as closely as I did the last two years (when I had season seats) but I've seen enough to be disgusted

JP's been horrible for the most part the last 2 years. Burnett was a big mistake...this year basically every new player turned out to be a mistake. Ohka? Thompson? Clayton? Thomas has been OK, but because Vernon Wells suddenly stopped being good at baseball once he got paid, our offense (which was going to be unstoppable with the overkill addition of Thomas) is now average at best.


Tonight's game was really ugly, and I don't give a shit about Bonds, so that's why I'm posting a rare post in the mlb thread. For shame JP, for shame.
 
Kevtones said:
Seriously, this was so awesome to watch live.
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GTFO here. True baseball fans should be depressed and disappointed that a lying, cheating sack of shit like Barroid has forever tainted something we hold dear. He's a disgrace.
 
i'd like to take this time to thank the blue jays for being so pre-occupied with arod they couldn't care less about winning the game :D

it's too bad the yankees are in a division race otherwise i'd pray for MO to come in and just break rios' fingers




ohhhhhhhh bostonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

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i hate steroids in baseball but i enjoyed watching bonds breaking the record. all these websites with the * is stupid. that shit's just low, that's some ny post crap.
 
With order restored, Towers prepared to pitch to Jorge Posada, but Towers heard first-base coach Tony Pena jawing at him from the coaches box. The benches cleared again, and while no punches were thrown, it was clear that these two teams did not like each other.

"I was like, 'What is this guy running his mouth for?' He's a quitter," Towers said. "He was managing a team (the Royals in 2005) and he quit in the middle of a season, because he couldn't hack it. Hey, he's going to run his mouth at me? It had nothing to do with Alex."
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:lol he can't be serious, he just can't be.

who is josh towers? /pedro
 
since playing everyday (roughly june 1):

melky cabrera:
.348ba, 5hr, 34rbi, .928ops, 124 total bases


some other AL center fielders in the same time frame:

grady sizemore:
.304ba, 10hr, 34rbi, .855ops, 114 total bases

torii hunter:
.282ba, 11hr, 39rbi, .828ops, 105 total bases

ichiro:
.345ba, 1hr, 21rbi, .794ops, 106 total bases

coco crisp:
.301ba, 4hr, 28rbi, .825ops, 99 total bases


plus if he's not already playing a gold glove caliber in CF he's close to it. once he develops some more power and a better grasp of the strike zone he's just going to be that much better. i hope melky is playing CF for the yankees for many more years.
 
Joe said:
:lol he can't be serious, he just can't be.

who is josh towers? /pedro
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Towers has always had a big mouth... he's a bit of a dick but balsy at the same time. Too bad he isn't a better pitcher.
 
Thoughts:

- As much as Barry is a cheater, watching #756 was awesome. That shit was history right there, done by the guy who is probably the best hitter ever - no contest, steroids or no. Don't worry though; Alex Rodriguez will break the record in 2013 as a DH for the Yankees at the age of 38. :D

- Roger Clemens is jesus for protecting his hitters. I defy the Jays to try some crap today; one of 'em will catch a fastball to the eye socket, straight up. :lol

- Joba Chamberlain throws fucking a polio slider, it's so sick. Even people who weren't swinging at it were still looking at it like wtf.

- That noise that Boston hears...that noise that Cleveland and Detroit and Seattle hear...that's that #4 train coming.

YANKEES NEVER QUIT
 
captmcblack said:
Thoughts:

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- That noise that Boston hears...that noise that Cleveland and Detroit and Seattle hear...that's that #4 train coming.

YANKEES NEVER QUIT
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Good starting pitching always trumps all .. prepare to be schooled.


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Here's a cool link to determine your teams chances of making the playoffs, and how they need to finish out:

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/MLB/American/East/Yankees.html

You can click on any team on the left hand side to see what their probability is.
 
Karakand said:
Angels: 85.4% chance of making the playoffs.
Mariners: 43.2% chance of making the playoffs.

lol 1995 1995 1995!!!!
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lol, I had to look it up to see what you were talking about:

August 24, 1995: The California Angels were 56-33 on August 2 and had the seond-best record in baseball, trailing only the Cleveland Indians. By August 24, after three weeks of .500 ball, their record was 67-44, still good enough to hold an 8 1/2-game lead on the Rangers for the AL West title, and an 11-game bulge over the Brewers, the best of the wild-card contenders outside the West. In the simulator, the Angels went on to win the division 99.6% of the time; 0.3% of the time, they made the wild card, giving them a 99.9% chance at the playoffs. From there until the 13th of September, the Angels went just 5-13; but such was their prior lead that they still held a five-game edge in their divison (over the Mariners, now) and a 5 1/2 game lead over the next possible wild-card team, the Yankees. They still showed a 99% chance of making the playoffs, as there were just 15 games left in the season. They didn't have to right the ship, not completely; the odds were against both the Yankees and Mariners getting hot, right?
Well, the odds may have been against it, but it happened anyway. The Yankees went 13-3 the rest of the way, and the Mariners went 12-4. The Angels wound up losing nine games in a row, but came back to win six of their last seven to force a tie with the Mariners. In the playoff game, Randy Johnson and Mark Langston staged a classic pitchers' duel for six innings, with Johnson and the M's holding a 1-0 lead, before Langston tired in the seventh. The Mariners scored four in the seventh and added four more in the eighth, Johnson wound up with a three-hit, 12-K gem, and Seattle ran away with a 9-1 victory to make the '95 Angels the team closest to the 100% mark to spend October watching the postseason on TV.
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I wish I could have your ignorance. 60% of M's Nation trash talk is lololololol 1995 (with the other 40% being a combination of bandwagoners / grit jokes.) :(

I wasn't even an Angels fan in 1995!
 
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