Oh and is it just me or is Raja completely taken out of the Suns offense when Kobe is being aggressive? For a guy who spreads the floor and averages double figures, his subpar offensive production really brings the Suns offense down..especially when Kobe is destroying him anyways...
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Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Thread - In Memory of Agent Zero
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max_cool said:
I am a Rockets fan and don't hate the Suns. The Suns play an entertaining brand of basketball and are fun to watch and marvel at. If anything, they are the anti-Rockets as the Rockets at tims have the most boring offense in the NBA. Also, the Suns will give young players a chance and try to actually develop players while JVG doesn't give any young player a chance. He is simply too lazy to attempt to develop players.
If any Rocket fan is using arrogance as a reason to hate the Suns have not spent any time with T-Mac or Chuck Hayes.
teruterubozu
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bionic77 said:Well what do you suggest they do? Do you think the Lakers should trade for another star? I could go for the idea depending on who we could get but I am totally against Oneal and Garnett. Oneal is a bum and Garnett is past his prime. Who does that leave us with? How many superstars are even left in the NBA? And of those that are stars how many are tradeable?
Remember the Lakers were playing great earlier in the season before they got the injury bug. Once they address the huge hole at PG I feel the rest of the team will be much more solid. Again I feel it comes down to Kobe, just give him a competant team and he can contend for a championship. He isn't Steve Nash or Dirk. He doesn't have to be surrounded by all star talent in order to contend.
Not say the Lakers don't need to make changes, because they do, but I feel they have a good core at the moment. However, Sasha, Smush, and Cook are all beyond worthless and you could add almost any bench player from any other team and it would be a big upgrade.
They need a PG for sure. What they really need is for Kobe to start making calls :lol
Shaq was pretty good at convincing players to join over the phone.
The Stealth Fox
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Argh... still in disbelief.
teruterubozu
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FrenchMovieTheme said:
Well, to be fair Kobe and Phil have rings. The Suns are pricks for no reason.
Being arrogant only works when you win. If you act that way after you lose you come off looking like a biotch.pheeniks said:
This is why the only team that can get away with that attitude right now is Miami.
Raja will always get torched by Kobe unless he gets quick double and triple teams, that doesn't effect his offensive production at all. I have seen Raja do pretty well even when Kobe is going off for 40+ and because Kobe would not play defense he would still get some wide open shots which he usually makes. What killed him was all of the Lakers (including Kobe for a change) started to play defense last night. Raja is pretty worthless on the offensive end and his game mainly consists of making wide open threes. Make him put it on the floor (like LA did last night) and he is worthless.Cloudy said:
What killed the Suns offense last night was they were not getting the wide open shots they are used to getting off their pick and roll. Lakers took away all of the easy buckets and if it were not for Amare being on fire last night that game would have been a blowout for the Lakers.
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Kangu said:
he did a couple years ago when he absolutely demolished timmy duncan in the playoffs...of course this is all before the surgery
My memory might be off, but I remember Amare facing Duncan up that year and using his quickness to get around him.oldschoolpinball said:
I also remember Duncan giving Amare fits at times as well. It wasn't a one sided demolition the way I remember it.
Then again maybe I only remember it that way because the Spurs won.
oldschoolpinball said:
As I recall most of his points were of his usual, pick and roll/driving to the basket variety. Amare has no drop step, no hook shot, no turn around jumper, no spin move, nothing really when he has his back to the basket. I think maybe the extraordinary success he's having paired with Nash is resulting in him neglecting to work on that aspect of his game. He's still very young though.
Is Cook a FA this year as well? There is a lot of dead weigh the Lakers need to get rid of.Karakand said:
I agree that we should ditch Mihm if given the opportunity, but the Lakers still need another big man to replace him if he leaves. I wonder if anyone is dumb enough to bite on Vlad at the moment?
bionic77 said:
Mihm, McKie, Shammond, Luke, Ronny and Smush
lol :lol :lol) are all going to be free agents this summer. Brian Grant's shit ****ing contract finally gets off the books too. That's like 20 million dollars in cap relief.Cookie, Butterfingers and Mo are under contract for 1 more season and Sasha has a qualifying offer for 2008/2009
lol :lol :lol).I think the surgery took more out of his game than people think. He has fully recovered, but that doesn't mean he will ever be as good as he could have been had he never needed surgery in the first place.oldschoolpinball said:
The Suns have to do it this year, I see them trying to trade Marion at the end of the season and Nash maybe has 2 great seasons left (and meybe 3 more good one after that). Amare is a good guy to have on the team he's a very poweful player, but he's not the kind of player one can really build a team around, like Kobe or Duncan, not yet anyway.
If the Suns don't do it this year than I see them falling to a .500 team pretty quickly without a shot at the championship for a while. It sucks being a Suns fan sicne there always seems to be one team out there that is better than them when the Suns seem to be fit to build a dynasty. Happened in the early 90's, to a lesser extent in the mid/late 70's and is happening now. At least that's the way I feel about it.
I'm going to hang myself if this keeps up.
The question is: will Vince care long enough for them to win the game? He's in vintage form right now, because he's got no one booing him and he's trying. I don't deny his greatness when he wants to win. Let's hope he breaks a nail soon.
The question is: will Vince care long enough for them to win the game? He's in vintage form right now, because he's got no one booing him and he's trying. I don't deny his greatness when he wants to win. Let's hope he breaks a nail soon.
Uncontested floaters in the lane, layups, dunks, jumping at every up-fake, not getting back in transition, the raptors defense is just way too passive and soft to compete in a playoff atmosphere.
I'd have knocked Carter on his ass on his second drive to the hole, these are ****ing playoffs man, act like it. Nets points in the paint 35+ already. Inexcusable.
I'd have knocked Carter on his ass on his second drive to the hole, these are ****ing playoffs man, act like it. Nets points in the paint 35+ already. Inexcusable.
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