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Official Apple WWDC 2008 Thread (3G iPhone and...more?)
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CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
O2 employees are apparently being briefed on the PAYG price next week.
Rumour has it that it's going to be under the £200 mark...
Rumour has it that it's going to be under the £200 mark...
Robobandit
Member
border said:
3G phones will fall back to 2G (EDGE) if there is no 3G network.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
Robobandit said:
shantyman said:
So... Which is it?
These are contradicting statements. Can I get a new one for $199 or not?
SuperPac
Member
DaCocoBrova said:
The way I'm reading it is that the two bolded statements are talking about different things. The existing 2.5G iPhone was not subsidized. As such, owners of the 2.5G EDGE iPhone can buy a new 3G phone and it will just extend your contract 2 years from that date (since none of the life of the contract was 'paying' for the phone). However, since the 3G iPhone *is* subsidized, you would not be able to do that again--say, with another iPhone revision down the line--until the new 2 year contract is up.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
Gotcha! So I'm straight. That's good news.
I really don't want o get rid of my OG iPhone. I'll just have two I guess.
I really don't want o get rid of my OG iPhone. I'll just have two I guess.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
RubxQub said:
:lol
The Faceless Master
Member
i've already predicted that 3g iphones will be the new hot item that gets you robbed.Darko said:
iRob version 2 - from the guys that brought you iRob and people getting punched in the face for a sidekick - coming soon to a big city near you.
Marty Chinn
Member
Darko said:
Wait, after my two years up, I can't cancel without bringing the phone back? What happens if the phone is stolen or lost?
Marty Chinn
Member
Costanza said:
Even after the two year period? I thought once your two year commitment was over, you would be free to do whatever you want. That seems odd to me that you wouldn't be be able to leave after that period was over without turning in the phone.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
I thought there was some proposed legislation on the books that, if passed, would do away w/ early term fees...?
Totally unrelated:
Do they sell the reflective/mirror screen protector for the iPhone in the apple store? This girl in my building has it and she showed it to me today. Total screen clarity, but when the screen isn't lit...it's totally reflective. She said she got it off eBay...but I don't like eBay.
Totally unrelated:
Do they sell the reflective/mirror screen protector for the iPhone in the apple store? This girl in my building has it and she showed it to me today. Total screen clarity, but when the screen isn't lit...it's totally reflective. She said she got it off eBay...but I don't like eBay.
SuperPac
Member
Marty Chinn said:
If your contract is for two years, after that you are free to do whatever -- you don't have to bring the phone back (you've essentially earned it by being a customer for two years). And you can keep going month-to-month until you cancel, get a new phone, or get a new plan for cheaper $$$. If you cancel before the 2-year period is over, you're looking (at least) at a $175 early termination fee. Not sure what happens if you lose the phone, although my hunch is you'll be paying for a new one.
velvet_nitemare
Member
Sorry if it's been posted, but how much will the 16GB go for?
Darkflight
Member
$299
Battlezone
Member
Darko said:
From reading that internal memo, it sounds like you only have to return it if you cancel within 30-days of buying the phone. After that, the ETF applies, but you can obviously keep the phone at that point. Although, I thought I read something about AT&T instituting some sort of penalty if you have a phone and never actually get on the network with it.
edit:
velvet_nitemare
Member
Darkflight said:
thx.
Exactly how low are the prices on 1st generation iPhones going to plummet, now? 
I'm almost thinking about grabbing an unlocked 4gb phone, since this move might just bring prices under a C-note. I'd be missing out on the 3G and the GPS, but that stuff was not really such a big deal to me, and it looks like Apple is not supporting the things that I'd really consider killer apps (3G internet radio, 3G podcasting).
I'm almost thinking about grabbing an unlocked 4gb phone, since this move might just bring prices under a C-note. I'd be missing out on the 3G and the GPS, but that stuff was not really such a big deal to me, and it looks like Apple is not supporting the things that I'd really consider killer apps (3G internet radio, 3G podcasting).
border said:Exactly how low are the prices on 1st generation iPhones going to plummet, now?
I'm almost thinking about grabbing an unlocked 4gb phone, since this move might just bring prices under a C-note. I'd be missing out on the 3G and the GPS, but that stuff was not really such a big deal to me, and it looks like Apple is not supporting the things that I'd really consider killer apps (3G internet radio, 3G podcasting).
You may be disappointed if you think unlocked 1st gen iPhones will sell for 100 bucks. Remember that 1st gen iPhones are the only ones out there that are going to be unlocked. All the new 3G models will only be sold with in-store activation.
As long as there are folks out there who don't want to sign a new contract but still want an iPhone, unlocked 1st gen iPhone prices will be comparable to the new 3G model.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
enzom21 said:
The man with all the answers. Thanks.
border said:Exactly how low are the prices on 1st generation iPhones going to plummet, now?
I'm almost thinking about grabbing an unlocked 4gb phone, since this move might just bring prices under a C-note. I'd be missing out on the 3G and the GPS, but that stuff was not really such a big deal to me, and it looks like Apple is not supporting the things that I'd really consider killer apps (3G internet radio, 3G podcasting).
4GB? YOu can get a 8GB for a little over $200 with ease right now. Until 2.0.0 is hacked, I don't see the price going down much on the OG iPhones.
eBay search for "iphone 4GB" yields a lowest Buy-It-Now price of $230 (not including phones that are broken or have cracked LCDs).DaCocoBrova said:
8GB models with cracked screens still fetching $250. Obviously this is going to have to plummet, particularly with Apple's expansion into foreign markets driving down the demand for unlocked models. iTunes App Store will probably satisfy most of the people wanting software as well. There will also be a glut of used iPhones on the market once people start upgrading, further driving down prices on outdated models.
For maybe $75-$100, I'd settle for the unlocked 1st gen phone, since I'd be able to stay on my pre-paid account and not eat a $70 bill every month. For any more than that though, it seems like you might as well pick up the 3G phone.
Safari 4 Developer Preview download link (Mac version)
Only new end-user feature so far, that I've noticed is you can save webpages as Applications. So for example if you use Gmail or another webmail a lot, you can save that as an Application and add it to your Dock.
It's pretty neat and they get sexy icons.
Only new end-user feature so far, that I've noticed is you can save webpages as Applications. So for example if you use Gmail or another webmail a lot, you can save that as an Application and add it to your Dock.
It's pretty neat and they get sexy icons.
Sean said:Safari 4 Developer Preview download link (Mac version)
Only new end-user feature so far, that I've noticed is you can save webpages as Applications. So for example if you use Gmail or another webmail a lot, you can save that as an Application and add it to your Dock.
It's pretty neat and they get sexy icons.
Holy shit, that's hot! Gonna try it out now. Then back to Firefox
EDIT: For people getting that error above, you need to log in to ADC and then go to the Downloads section and it'll be there to download. The link doesn't work properly, probably because it was for the other guy's specific user session.
velvet_nitemare
Member
Seems like my PC doesn't support USB 2.0. I was planning on getting a laptop in September, but this might just push the time table up a bit.
Sean said:Safari 4 Developer Preview download link (Mac version)
Only new end-user feature so far, that I've noticed is you can save webpages as Applications. So for example if you use Gmail or another webmail a lot, you can save that as an Application and add it to your Dock.
It's pretty neat and they get sexy icons.
I've been playing with "Save as Web Application" for a little while now and it's pretty damn neat.
I can think of a bunch of Quicksilver / Command line tasks I can accomplish now that each web app I use can be run inside its own executable.
Technically, it's nothing amazing. It's just giving a webkit instance to each app in the same way each Dashboard widget gets one. Neat concept, though. Really further blurs the line between app and web app without some huge new framework like Adobe AIR.
Oh, it'll be interesting to see the Mobile Me apps persisted from the web this way.
Phoenix
Member
Marty Chinn said:
Yes, after your contract is over you can toss it into the toilet or give it to a friend. Hell you can do that during the contract if you want. The rules for the iPhone are no different than any other "subsidized/contract" phone. You sign a contract, you get the phone cheap. After that they could care less what you do with it because they have you under the contract for the next 2 years. You could sell/give it to someone else and it wouldn't matter you're STILL under the contract for those 2 years. At the end of those two years they're looking for what else they've got to get you signed for another two years.
Phoenix
Member
Juice said:
Wow, you said AIR was huge
Also, yeah I have a feeling that the mobile Me applications are going to end up on the desktop this way. I'm really curious if they plan on keeping fully standalone versions of mail AND the mobile me version of the same app when they can simplt wrap the web version in a WebView, add GoogleGears for offline and get the same (and in some cases better) thing. After all - that's how iTunes is done 
Yixian said:
Sorry, didn't realize that link would time out with the ADC login session. Try this URL instead which is a direct link: http://adcdownload.apple.com/Safari/safari_4_developer_preview/safari4devprevleo.dmg
If that still doesn't work I'll upload to rapidshare or something.
Sean said:
Rapidshare it, man.
Although, if you're on OS X, which, you know, you should have/use QuickShareIt.
Prices are pretty fair in Ireland.
On the cheapest tariff, it works out at about $260, though.
Still, it's tempting, but I'm not sure I'm ready to sign away 45/month on mobile bills (and the 1GB limit is a bit stringent, particularly when the same operators are offering home broadband packages on the same technology for much cheaper).
On the cheapest tariff, it works out at about $260, though.
Still, it's tempting, but I'm not sure I'm ready to sign away 45/month on mobile bills (and the 1GB limit is a bit stringent, particularly when the same operators are offering home broadband packages on the same technology for much cheaper).
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
border said:
Craigslist dude. Who uses eBay for such things? But $75 to $100 :lol Don't hold your breath.
StrikerObi
Member
Juice said:
So wait, the Safari developers co-oped Fluid!?
http://fluidapp.com/
This sounds exactly like the "web applications" feature of Safari 4. I'm not complaining, just want to make sure credit is given where due. Apple has always cherry-picked ideas from the Mac development community.
dallow_bg said:
We're talking about Safari 4 for OS X, not Safari Mobile.