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woodchuck said:
damn. stern doesn't mess around. I'm glad that he's suspended.

If that was Rasheed or Ron Artest, do you guys think he'd still be suspended?
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Who knows and who cares. Sheed and Artest by being themselves would have made the situation much different.

Either way, good for the NBA. I watched that game and had to turn it off after that because I was disgusted with the refs by that point. Immediately after he tossed Duncan, the refs called an offensive foul on a Spurs player after he defended himself from a goddamned flying jumpkick from a Mavs player (forgot names, sorry). By then, I knew this game was ****ed.
 
cuban's blog...

Tim Duncan, Joe Crawford and the NBA

Apr 16th 2007 12:17PM
Iim not going to comment on what happened during our Spurs game Sunday. My feelings about the subject havent changed and its not worth the money to comment on it here. In fact, I've given up writing in this blog about the NBA because my number one rule of blogging is that if you cant offer an honest opinion, say nothing.

What I do want to say to all NBA fans is that if you are not a Mavs fan STOP EMAILING ME ABOUT THE OFFICIATING.

Email the owner of your own team. Email the commissioner of the NBA, email anybody else. Do not email me.

Everytime something questionable happens in an NBA game, my inbox gets slammed with "If you really care about the officiating you would say something", or "this is why I cant watch the NBA anymore" emails or "I'm a season ticket holder for X years and Im considering cancelling because...". Im tired of getting and reading emails that by now easily number more than 25k over the years that the management of the team you root for, or the NBA won't take.

If you were to send all those emails to your owner or GM, maybe they would be concerned with things other than where I stand on the court .
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WTF is he worried about getting fined for? That hasn't stopped him in the past.
 
woodchuck said:
cuban's blog...



WTF is he worried about getting fined for? That hasn't stopped him in the past.
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Haha, I was ready for him to go off in his blog.. I'm very very disappointed. I guess if it doesn't directly concern the Mavs, he doesn't care enough to get in trouble.

Also, I'd say if this happened to 95% of the rest of the league, Crawford wouldn't have been suspended. Well at least not suspended for the rest of the season.
 
I never heard Crawford's mic.

Crawford talking to Pop said:
He's sitting over there laughing...and....trying to distract us and....*walks away*
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<Finley> He didn't say anything!
<Crawford> He's not saying anything now either!

What the hell!
 
DMczaf said:
I never heard Crawford's mic.



<Finley> He didn't say anything!
<Crawford> He's not saying anything now either!

What the hell!
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I heard that yesterday on PTI. :lol :lol Crawford just snapped. I'm glad he got suspended for the rest of the year.
 
AirBrian said:
I heard that yesterday on PTI. :lol :lol Crawford just snapped. I'm glad he got suspended for the rest of the year.
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Depending on how you interpret Stern's comments on TV today, Crawford is gone forever. Remains to be seen though.
 
DMczaf said:
I never heard Crawford's mic.



<Finley> He didn't say anything!
<Crawford> He's not saying anything now either!

What the hell!
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I am telling you, Duncan (or someone who looks just like him) obviously slept with either his wife, his daughter, or both at the same time.
 
AirBrian said:
What did Stern say on TV? I'll I've seen is the AP article.
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It was on Outside the Lines: First Report this afternoon. I don't recall the entire quote, but it ended with "...made it clear he does not want to work with the NBA." Again, I don't remember it verbetim. However, it was on OTL, and was pretty surprising.
 
Just to clarify, I think that Stern did make the right decision by suspending Crawford. I just think that the timing is 1) odd, 2) too late.

It should have happened years ago. Like I said, the only problem I have with this is that it had to happen to a MVP player before the league took notice. Too many years has the little guy been screwed over by the refs -- and since Portland is one of the little guys, we (Portland fans) feel the most pain.
 
jobber said:
Sweet Victory

:D :D :D :D
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Duncan´s fine should´ve been lifted too. Tim is poor, he gives all his millions to charity.

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Nope. If it was either of those players, they would not have been as calm as Duncan was. Neither of those players are able to express their sentiments eloquently, either, and that makes a huge difference in how someone is perceived.
 
reilo said:
Just to clarify, I think that Stern did make the right decision by suspending Crawford. I just think that the timing is 1) odd, 2) too late.

It should have happened years ago. Like I said, the only problem I have with this is that it had to happen to a MVP player before the league took notice. Too many years has the little guy been screwed over by the refs -- and since Portland is one of the little guys, we (Portland fans) feel the most pain.
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He should have never been reinstated after the tax fraud thing.

Anyways, this is great news, now he can't screw the Mavs in the playoffs.
 
Branduil said:
He should have never been reinstated after the tax fraud thing.

Anyways, this is great news, now he can't screw the Mavs in the playoffs.
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Actually, Mavs should worry about Bennett Salvatore. Phoenix too if they get him. He is even worse than Joe C in the fact that he is just a bad ref from top to bottom.
 
reilo said:
Actually, Mavs should worry about Bennett Salvatore. Phoenix too if they get him. He is even worse than Joe C in the fact that he is just a bad ref from top to bottom.
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I agree about Salvatore. He's not a douchebag though. He's just incompetent.

Basically, all the refs that I know their names of suck.
 
DMczaf said:
Heres your chance, Laker fans.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-grizzlies-west&prov=ap&type=lgns
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....Hmmm and Carroll Dawson is retiring at the end of this season? Come down to Houston!!!!

About Crawford, he deserved it. For years now players and the TNT crew keep saying that when he is reffing you have to play a different game, you have to carry yourself differently, etc. That should not be the case. No matter who the ref is, you should be able to play your game without worrying about the ref. Crawford snapped on Sunday buy I argue that his act has not appropriate for years. I think this marks the end of his career. How can they bring him back next season?
 
dskillzhtown said:
....Hmmm and Carroll Dawson is retiring at the end of this season? Come down to Houston!!!!

About Crawford, he deserved it. For years now players and the TNT crew keep saying that when he is reffing you have to play a different game, you have to carry yourself differently, etc. That should not be the case. No matter who the ref is, you should be able to play your game without worrying about the ref. Crawford snapped on Sunday buy I argue that his act has not appropriate for years. I think this marks the end of his career. How can they bring him back next season?
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Apparently he won´t be coming back. At least that´s what you get from Stern words...

David Stern (on Camera, looking stern): There was an egregious violation of the game management here by an individual who had been specifically addressed on this very subject by me, and I did what I thought I had to do.

Further, Stern offered this as well:

David Stern: In fairness, I would say that, he doesn't think he did anything wrong, and you know, probably doesn't wish to work in the NBA anymore.

If he actually thinks he did the right thing on Sunday, then thank God he´s not coming back next season, in two season or ever.
 
from page 27-30 .. theres no talk about the team to beat in the east..

The Toronto Raptors

...

What is this.. we clinched home advantage@! yay!

(we will beat the 76er's.. even if we lose to detriot)
 
woodchuck said:
I agree about Salvatore. He's not a douchebag though. He's just incompetent.

Basically, all the refs that I know their names of suck.
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I am trying to find this Bill Simmons article he wrote 2 weeks prior to the '06 playoffs where he perfectly called Bennett Salvatore's incompetence. Everything Simmons predicted came absolutely true in the playoffs with every game Salvatore reffed. Can someone find it?
 
NBA should replay the Mavs/Spurs game since the ref was obviously betting on the Mavs to win.
 
jobber said:
NBA should replay the Mavs/Spurs game since the ref was obviously betting on the Mavs to win.
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Oh jobber, what have doth saideth?
 
epik said:
from page 27-30 .. theres no talk about the team to beat in the east..

The Toronto Raptors

...

What is this.. we clinched home advantage@! yay!

(we will beat the 76er's.. even if we lose to detriot)
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Us Raptors fans have nothing to talk about with them yet. Just waiting on who we're gonna play. :)
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070417&sportCat=nba

Sports Guy's LVP to MVP List

435. Chris Webber (Philly version)
You have to love a league in which somebody making $20 million a year can stink to the degree that his team asks him, "Hey, what if we paid you 95 percent of your salary money to play somewhere else, is that something you'd be interested in?" ... and then that same player goes to a contender and miraculously becomes good again. Watching C-Webb in Detroit has been like watching the last scene in "The Usual Suspects" for three straight months; all that was missing was Billy King dropping a coffee mug in slow motion.
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:lol
 
reilo said:
I am trying to find this Bill Simmons article he wrote 2 weeks prior to the '06 playoffs where he perfectly called Bennett Salvatore's incompetence. Everything Simmons predicted came absolutely true in the playoffs with every game Salvatore reffed. Can someone find it?
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I know what you're talking about. Simmons made a list of the worst refs in the NBA before the playoffs started. I think Bavetta, Salvatore, and Joey were top 3.

edit- this is all i could find after a google search.

In a related story, I went to 35 Clippers games this year and kept a list of the referees in my pocket which I also used to follow the referees for any televised games. And yes, the referees in the NBA -- as a whole -- have never been worse. But there were six referees that stuck out as being especially terrible."

Then I went on to list the worst six referees. Here was No. 2 on the list:

"2. Bennett Salvatore -- Always one of the worst, he took it to another level this season. If you see him on the court at the start of the game, get ready for about six technicals, two near-brawls and both coaches having to be restrained by their assistants at various times."

Why is this relevant? Not only did Salvatore officiate Game 4 of the Suns-Lakers series (the one where Kobe tied it at the end of regulation and won it at the end of OT on two shaky non-calls on Nash, both by Salvatore), not only did Salvatore officiate Sunday night's Game 5 (in which Miami had a 40-12 free-throw advantage at one point), but Salvatore called the foul on Wade's final drive in overtime (remember, the call where ABC couldn't find a replay to show that anyone touched him?) even though he was standing at midcourt a full 35-40 feet from the play, and even though two other refs were closer to the play. Not only was that NOT his call, he butchered it.
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jobber said:
NBA should replay the Mavs/Spurs game since the ref was obviously betting on the Mavs to win.
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You're reaching, buddy. Spurs going down this year, just like last year. Only this time it ain't gonna be on the final play of the final game.

Mavs in 6... unless Denver knocks off the Spurs. Which would be rather sweet.
 
It doesn't specifically reference Salvatore, but I always found this uncanny:

Bill Simmons said:
Question No. 8: What's the worst-case scenario for each team?


For Miami, it's the supporting cast -- in close games, if you double-team Wade, the Heat still need the likes of GP, Walker and Posey to make open jumpers. Would you trust these guys in the spotlight of the Finals? Me neither. Taking it a step further, should anyone REALLY be able to win a championship when they're playing the Artist Formerly Known as GP at crunch-time? He's been running on fumes for three years. I just think he'll end up killing them in at least one game, maybe two.


For Dallas, it's foul trouble -- they have the right guys to guard Shaq and Wade, but you can't predict those games when all the calls start going Miami's way. And that's the thing that bothers me about this series: No team depends on the refs quite like the Heat. When the refs are calling all the bumps on Shaq and protecting Wade on every drive, they're unstoppable. When they're calling everything fairly, they're eminently beatable. If they're not getting any calls, they're just about hopeless. I could see the refs swinging two games in Miami's favor during this series, possibly three. In fact, I'm already depressed about it and the series hasn't even started yet.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060608

BTW Simmons archive is now open to all, even non-insiders, so you can search through some of his old stuff if you need to.

http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=bill_simmons&next=50&page=espn&language=en-us&rT=sports
 
Kangu said:
It doesn't specifically reference Salvatore, but I always found this uncanny:



http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060608

BTW Simmons archive is now open to all, even non-insiders, so you can search through some of his old stuff if you need to.

http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=bill_simmons&next=50&page=espn&language=en-us&rT=sports
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here is the archive by subject http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/subject/archive

It's a lot of fun looking at old NBA columns. Like in 2003, he had Steve Francis and Stephon Marbury as two top 15 guys in terms of trade value. Those were the days

FIVE YOUNG GUYS READY TO MAKE EITHER A LEAP OR A SEMI-LEAP

4. Mike Sweetney
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methodman said:
If we don't win tonight, I don't think we'll make the playoffs. We need this shit bad. Very ****ing bad.
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Clippers losing to Phoenix will help though.

287. Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy (tie)
The lesson, as always: Anytime you're considering a six-player NBA trade in which you end up with both overpaid white guys in the deal ... you might want to rethink that baby.
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:lol :lol
 
Code: 
 	       min	fgm-a	3pm-a	ftm-a	off	def	tot	ast	pf	st	to	bs	pts
U. Slokar  	17:39  	5-7  	0-0  	0-0  	3 	0  	3  	0  	3  	1  	2  	0  	10

The beast has been unleashed.
 
Kintaro said:
It was on Outside the Lines: First Report this afternoon. I don't recall the entire quote, but it ended with "...made it clear he does not want to work with the NBA." Again, I don't remember it verbetim. However, it was on OTL, and was pretty surprising.
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I got to hear Stern on ESPN, and yeah, he definitely made it sound like Crawford doesn't want to come back as of right now.
 
Go Slokar Go:
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           min    	fgm-a	3pm-a	ftm-a	off	def	tot	ast	pf	st	to	bs	pts
U. Slokar  17:39  	7-10  	1-1  	3-4  	3 	0  	3  	0  	4  	1  	2  	0  	18
 
methodman said:
I guess Dirk, Howard, Dampier, and Stackhouse aren't even dressed up to play. Giving us the game?
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Don't speak too soon, this is the Warriors. Meanwhile the Suns are down by 1. WHAT ARE YOU DOING NASH?
 
pilonv1 said:
Don't speak too soon, this is the Warriors. Meanwhile the Suns are down by 1. WHAT ARE YOU DOING NASH?
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Yeah, I bet we miss a couple shots to start the game, and then Fitz will be like, "oh noooo, we're in trouble now"
 
I can see them losing by 40 to Dallas bench as Diop scores 31. And then the Clippers will win and we'll lose to Portland by 1 in OT or something.
 
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