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Official Baten Kaitos Origins bombed thread -

LOL, knowing the sales figures for a game just makes another reason to wait till it hits the bargain bins.
 
Are there any rpgs released this gen with lower worldwide sales (I mean rpgs that were released in both JPN & US)? IIRC it did like <40k in Japan as well.
 
f_elz said:
i remember bk1 getting bad scores. for the voice acting i think.

you can turn it off and i think BK2 improved VA.

i havent bought it 'cuz i've never been sure about card games :S plz dont kill me :x
 
f_elz said:
i remember bk1 getting bad scores. for the voice acting i think.

That was because Namco did the localization. Yeah the voice acting sucked. I turned it off. This time Nintendo did the localization. The voice acting is great. I kept it on.

Baten Kaitos is not really a card game guys. I can't explain how, so I'll leave that to Dragona or ivysaur.
 
f_elz said:
i remember bk1 getting bad scores. for the voice acting i think.

No game gets "bad scores" just because the voice acting is bad. It takes a little more than that. Voice acting, especially acting you can turn off, is at most minus or plus .2 of a point.
 
Oblivion said:
How much did the first one sell? Wasn't it pretty bad?

I think around 130k in America, maybe a tad less. It sold 20k its first month, and then 40k the second, and then the rest was from there on. BK1 did about 80-100k in Japan, and did very well in Europe (France especially).

BK2 did about 30k (possibly more, I stopped keeping track) overall in Japan.
 
MoxManiac said:
EGM pretty much is the worst magazine, with the most tasteless staff in existance though.


Allow me to embellish your thoughts a bit, Mox.

I would've bought BK2, but it came out the same day as VP2, it was horrible timing for me. And now I have TotA, which I am hooked on. Will get it eventually though.
 
Yeah, being on GameCube is bad enough, but after the long boring summer even the dedicated RPG fan types are looking at a game that falls squarely in the middle of the Disgaea 2 -> Xenosaga III -> Okami -> Valkyrie Profile 2 -> Tales of the Abyss -> FF XII -> FF III -> Zeruda stream. A lot of those games are going to do badly from the competition, and sadly BKO is the most likely candidate. :-(
 
ivysaur12 said:
and did very well in Europe (France especially).
They should have released it in Europe instead North America then. Atm it looks more like the GC will die first and BK2 will never make it here. =(
 
Could the low numbers just be a simple case of supply & demand? I know that most of the local gamestores here only received at the most 3 or 4 copies of the game.

Add to the fact that this is a niche Nintendo released title (who rarely does print ads in other game magazines anyways), released in a flood of RPG's for other systems during the same month & received little to no interest in more of the mainstream US game media (EGM's low scores & Game Informer's typical bullshit reviews add to the confusion)

I did my part & bought the game on release at least. Here's hoping that Baten Kaitos DS gets developed besides the low sales....
 
It's on my list of stuff to ask people to get me for Xmas kind of a thing, not on my "I'm buying this myself" list.

I still haven't finished the first one yet anyway.
 
Know what?
I actually preordered the game on September 25...
Not that I thought I had to, but I thought I might as well because I needed to order a textbook from Amazon.ca.

But it still hasn't even shipped yet!!!

Then just today, I get this email from Amazon:

"We wanted to let you know there's a delay with one or more items in the order you placed on September 25 2006 00:22 PDT.

"Baten Kaitos Origins Nintendo" [Video Game]
Item delayed 4-6 weeks.

You can access this order by clicking the Your Account button in the upper right corner of any page at Amazon.ca. Once there, you can make changes to unshipped orders, cancel unshipped items, track shipped packages, modify your account settings, and do much more. For more information about your order, please visit the following page:

http://www.amazon.ca/your-account/

Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this message.

Thanks for shopping at Amazon.ca - we hope to see you again!"

WHAT. 4-6 week delay!? For what??

I don't understand... :( It's.. it's not like it sold out or anything...! Where be my game?!

I actually expected to play it before Tales of the Abyss, but I'm 6 hours in ToA now thanks to this backlog.

Also, my textbook order got delayed because of this?! Man, I'm pissed.

- Prax, delay is the lame.
 
That's why you don't order from Amazon.ca. Check Future Shop if you're in Canada. There were a few copies at the store I went to.
 
Yah, I just wanted the danged book. (but with super saver shipping..!) I didn't realize amazon.ca was so crappy.

I had to cancel the order. *sigh* I was looking forward to playing it too.

I think I'll pick up BK:O eventually... but not until long after I beat ToA.
 
I bought Baten Kaitos Origins. Kinda regreting it now, not because it isn't a good game but it will be 19.99 in the next month or two.

I really need to wait on every game except from Atlus (damn limited shipment/first run only bastards!) for how well it sold. If it sold poorly, I'll wait a month or two for it drop in price. Could save me a lot of money in the long run.
 
duckroll said:

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Doom_Bringer said:
hey it was released on a dead system! What did you expect?


Seriously they should have made it for Wii! Same goes for Zelda TP

bunkum said:
>100k no particular order

360 MADDEN NFL 07
PS2 MADDEN NFL 07
PS2 MADDEN NFL 07: HALL OF FAME
PS2 NBA LIVE 07
XBX MADDEN NFL 07
360 LEGO STAR WARS II: THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY
GCN LEGO STAR WARS II: THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY
PS2 LEGO STAR WARS II: THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY
XBX LEGO STAR WARS II: THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY
GBA POKEMON MYSTERY DUNGEON: RED RESCUE TEAM
NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS
NDS POKEMON MYSTERY DUNGEON: BLUE RESCUE TEA
NDS STAR FOX COMMAND
PS2 FINAL FANTASY VII: DIRGE OF CERBERUS
360 SAINTS ROW
 
Tabris said:
I bought Baten Kaitos Origins. Kinda regreting it now, not because it isn't a good game but it will be 19.99 in the next month or two.

I really need to wait on every game except from Atlus (damn limited shipment/first run only bastards!) for how well it sold. If it sold poorly, I'll wait a month or two for it drop in price. Could save me a lot of money in the long run.

Just trade it back after you finish it to get your 20 bucks back. It's already reduced in price jeez.
 
If I get banned for saying BKO is a good game but I regret buying it when it was full price, or liking XSEP3, then there's something definitely wrong with this forum.

BorkBork said:
Just trade it back after you finish it to get your 20 bucks back. It's already reduced in price jeez.

I want to keep the game, just could have saved some money by waiting a couple months. Same with a lot of games I should be waiting on now.
 
Tabris said:
If I get banned for saying BKO is a good game but I regret buying it when it was full price, or liking XSEP3, then there's something definitely wrong with this forum.



I want to keep the game, just could have saved some money by waiting a couple months. Same with a lot of games I should be waiting on now.

Baten Kaitos Origins and Xenosaga Episode III are both awesome games; MonolithSoft ftw.

Am I allowed to like both? =\
 
I'll be part of the October sales. My copy should have arrived yesterday, but apparently Fed Ex couldn't be bothered delivering it on time.
 
I haven't bought this game or BK1. I recently spent around £600 on games, for my GC and GBA this was between July and August, so I kinda gotta save some money. Retaining from buying any game related stuff, even Wii, for now.

And I am in a difficult financial situation. Not exactly life or death, my parents will always back me up, they practically give me as much as I need. But I don't want to be spoilt, and I prefer to acheive on my own merits. And they've already given me way more than i deserve. So until I am earning something again, no more unnecessary purchasing.
 
I bought this on monday, but I think it lacks some of what made the original so unique. Maybe it will get better as it goes on.

Off topic, but can mods ban other mods?
 
I loved the original, Origins is still good but doesn't match the first (though it does offer some improvements).

Incredibly poor sales though. If it was on one of the 3 next-gen systems, it would have definitely sold better.
 
the thoroughbred said:
I haven't bought this game or BK1. I recently spent around £600 on games, for my GC and GBA this was between July and August, so I kinda gotta save some money. Retaining from buying any game related stuff, even Wii, for now.

And I am in a difficult financial situation. Not exactly life or death, my parents will always back me up, they practically give me as much as I need. But I don't want to be spoilt, and I prefer to acheive on my own merits. And they've already given me way more than i deserve. So until I am earning something again, no more unnecessary purchasing.

wtf

If you've got a list of people who don't give a shit about your financial situation, add me to it.
 
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