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AvidNobody said:
Been playing on and off for like 8 years or something. Nobody in my school is interested in my type of music, so it often gets boring playing by myself. Thankful for Rock Band.

Erin Tate from Minus the Bear has always been a favorite of mine. Sick Disco stuff going on. Here is a pretty good cover of a song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JKCF7kOljw
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Like the band, that cover doesn't sync his actually drums with the music though >=(
 
Scuba Steve said:
Songs I've completely mastered, if anyone wants a video I'd be happy to make one


Queens of the Stone Age
3s & 7s
Sick, Sick, Sick
No One Knows
Go With the Flow
A Song for the Dead
Little Sister
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I would like to see this.
It's a pretty easy song to play except that triplet bridge. Many drummers say they can play it while in reality they fail hard at the triplets fill in.
 
^^^I assume those are songs you mastered for either RB or GH. My roommate owns RB2, so I have been occasionally playing it the past few months. He has only purchased a few downloadable songs, so the set list is fairly limited. Here are a few songs I have mastered:

The Smashing Pumpkins
"Today"
"Cherub Rock"

Franz Ferdinand
"Take Me Out"
"Do You Want To"

Radiohead
"My Iron Lung"
"Creep"

Red Hot Chili Peppers
"Give It Away"
"Dani California"
"Under The Bridge"

Foo Fighters
"Everlong"
"Learn To Fly"

Bang Camaro
"Pleasure (Pleasure)"
"Night Lies"

David Bowie
"Suffragette City"
"Moonage Daydream"
 
Guts Of Thor said:
So what is everyone's opinion on drum muffling? I've been thinking about getting moon gel.
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I don't really like the sounds I get from my kit personally using the moon gel stuff. It just seems so dead to me and much more prefer my kit to breathe and if I want to change the sound I go in there and tune it to where I like it.

Some guys like it though, my brother only plays with it there. I much prefer to let the kit sing as is.
 
That's what I've been thinking as well.I used muffling for a while but after I got my new set I've been going with just letting the drums breathe so to speak without any muffling.
 
Guts Of Thor said:
So what is everyone's opinion on drum muffling? I've been thinking about getting moon gel.
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Just IMO, if you are going to muffle your drums, you may as well just go electronic.

Use proper tunings and let those babies ring loud. Too many modern drummers muffle everything to shit and detune the hell out of their kits and end up sounding like shit. Personally I blame Lars Ulrich, even though the practice predates him by a while.

Of course this is coming from a guitar player, so YMMV.

If you can replicate the sound of your drums by banging on a cardboard box, you are doing something wrong.
 
Jackson50 said:
^^^I assume those are songs you mastered for either RB or GH. My roommate owns RB2, so I have been occasionally playing it the past few months. He has only purchased a few downloadable songs, so the set list is fairly limited. Here are a few songs I have mastered:
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wait what?
it's a drummer thread so I assume(expect) that he played the listed songs on a real drum set with all fill ins and stuff
 
iamaustrian said:
I would like to see this.
It's a pretty easy song to play except that triplet bridge. Many drummers say they can play it while in reality they fail hard at the triplets fill in.
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I'm getting a new video camera this weekend so I'll have that video soon!
 
iamaustrian said:
wait what?
it's a drummer thread so I assume(expect) that he played the listed songs on a real drum set with all fill ins and stuff
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Oh, that could be. I never approached drumming from that perspective, so that is why I did not have the same expectation. I always use the original song as a template. I rarely, if ever, sit down and attempt to master a song. Perhaps I will attempt that now.
 
for me (and thousands of other drummers) THE most underrated (mostly metal-)drummer ever is Bobby Jarzombek. He has a VERY unique style and an extremly unique way to play certain crash cymbals, is incredibly accurate, a hard hitter and his stuff is known to be one of the most difficult things to cover.

but what am i typing for? watch the video below. He plays along with 3 songs. first and last are metal songs while the second is some sort of jazz/blues which he accompanied in a jaw-dropping way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpFrexDJ4A
 
iamaustrian said:
for me (and thousands of other drummers) THE most underrated (mostly metal-)drummer ever is Bobby Jarzombek. He has a VERY unique style and an extremly unique way to play certain crash cymbals, is incredibly accurate, a hard hitter and his stuff is known to be one of the most difficult things to cover.

but what am i typing for? watch the video below. He plays along with 3 songs. first and last are metal songs while the second is some sort of jazz/blues which he accompanied in a jaw-dropping way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpFrexDJ4A
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awesome drummer, sorry I haven't gotten that video up yet, I'm trying to figure out now how to sync the video of my drumming to the actual song
 
Gotta represent extreme metal here with some legends. Lots of blastbeats here people.

Flo Mounier - Cryptopsy
This guy & his band got me into death metal, he can seriously destroy his kit while racking up the BPM's. Its a shame Cryptopsy switched from pure Death Metal to Metalcore, but at least he can still blast like a motherfucker.

George Kollias - Nile
Kollias has serious technique & is a true drumming legend, the video has awful sound quality (sorry) but is the only one I could find that best display's his sheer high speed control & impeccable hand/feet technique. Some Nile songs reach 270bpm which is just pure insanity to behold.

John Longstreth - Origin
This guy is a monster, it's amazing he doesn't fall apart after a gig due to the sheer relentless nature of Origin. Where Nile will occasionally drop the BPM from 250+ down to 80 or so in their songs - Origin almost NEVER slows down. Non stop top speed Double kicks with constant snare rolls are staples of Origin songs, pure unrelenting blasting. I love it.

Now I know some people will write these dudes off as racket or not interesting etc etc but it cannot be denied that to get to this level of stamina & control takes years of dedication equal to any top drummer in the game. Playing in extreme metal bands myself (guitars) I know first hand it is no simple task to be able to maintain such intensity song after song, night after night on tour - the toll it takes on your body is unlike any other style of music or instrument. Respect.
 
iamaustrian said:
for me (and thousands of other drummers) THE most underrated (mostly metal-)drummer ever is Bobby Jarzombek. He has a VERY unique style and an extremly unique way to play certain crash cymbals, is incredibly accurate, a hard hitter and his stuff is known to be one of the most difficult things to cover.

but what am i typing for? watch the video below. He plays along with 3 songs. first and last are metal songs while the second is some sort of jazz/blues which he accompanied in a jaw-dropping way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpFrexDJ4A
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Damn, he does A LOT of shit I cant! :lol

He plays like me. Open lefty on a righty kit.
 
Whilst I love seeing some crazy drum talent (such as Buddy Rich vids, Omar Hakim - I'm surprised Dave Weckl hasn't been mentioned yet!) my favourite drummers are usually ones that service the song but still bring something unique to the table.

Here's a wee list with some of my favourite examples:-

Jimmy Chamberlain - Pumpkins
The outro of 'Snail' on 'Gish' is just phenomenal. A great example of crazy drumming that serves the song.

Larry Mullen Jnr - U2
No flash, but the epitome of solid - is great at building songs to a conclusion. If you can get a drummer such as Chad Smith to play one of your beats in his solo then you've done something right.

Chad Smith - Chili Peppers
Just an amazing feel player - Breaking the Girl being one of my favourites.

Brendan Canty - Fugazi.
If you have seen Fugazi live you know what I'm talking about.

Stephen Perkins - Jane's Addiction.
Everyone knows Perry and Dave Navarro, but Perkins is at the heart of everything great about Jane's Addiction - the drumming on Ted Just Admit It (especially from the 'Sex is Violence' break just blows me away)

Loz Colbert - Ride
I can hear about 2 hits on a song and know it's Loz playing - he has this awesome thing where it feels like he is just about to lose control but doesn't. The intro to Dreams Burn Down, and the outro to Chelesea Girl are great examples.

Abe Cunningham - Deftones
White Pony is one of my favourite albums ever, and I love some of the drumming subtelties that really change some of the songs - Digital Bath being a great example (listen to the hats change in the chorus)
 
The Foul said:
Gotta represent extreme metal here with some legends. Lots of blastbeats here people.


George Kollias - Nile
Kollias has serious technique & is a true drumming legend, the video has awful sound quality (sorry) but is the only one I could find that best display's his sheer high speed control & impeccable hand/feet technique. Some Nile songs reach 270bpm which is just pure insanity to behold.



Now I know some people will write these dudes off as racket or not interesting etc etc but it cannot be denied that to get to this level of stamina & control takes years of dedication equal to any top drummer in the game. Playing in extreme metal bands myself (guitars) I know first hand it is no simple task to be able to maintain such intensity song after song, night after night on tour - the toll it takes on your body is unlike any other style of music or instrument. Respect.
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I posted a lot of stuff about george on page 1.
oh btw: here is his doublebass workout video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSR1bzzAQ_M
 
Broseybrose said:
Hey, nice crowd! nice fast and steady double-bass, too.

Larger than any crowd ive had the opportunity to play for. good for you, man! :D
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it was pretty cool. around 50000-60000 people
to bad it was 38°C and 100% humidity. I almost KO'ed while playing(the moment in the video I closed my eyes). fucking tropical climate.
the drumset was shite too. only one hanging tom(normaly have 3) and all was rusty as hell.
 
I'd totally buy that Pearl set if I lived in a house. Condo living has it perks, but freedom to make noise is not among them. Shazbot.

Rock Band really got me interested in drumming, and I've been wanting to take lessons for a while now, but not being able to drum at home makes it pretty pointless.
 
So, I've finally enough money to buy a drum set the next month and I need some help. I want a set that'll also sound good when I get better.

I was thinking about one of those 2:
http://www.thomann.de/de/pearl_fz725zc_standard_21.htm
http://www.thomann.de/de/tama_imperialstar_standardmcsbk.htm

The price of those 2 would be awesome as they include a drum throne and everything but as I said, I want a set that'll also sound good in a few years. And let's say I'm a bit sceptical about those cymbals. Now, the question is if the drums are good enough that I'll buy that set and get some totally awesome but fuck expensive cymbals later or if I should spend some more cash and get some better (or at least more expensive) drums like these and a good starter cymbal set like this (maybe?) that I can upgrade later if I want to.
 
Bumping this thread since it isn't from 2008 like the other one. I've begun playing drums recently, picked up a crappy PDP set to learn on in the garage, got myself a used ride and some pad dampeners for late at night, and an electronic metronome, all in all cost me like $300. Now I'm hoping to get some advice on online resources to continue my education when I'm not with my teacher, as one 30 minute session per week simply isn't quenching my thirst, I'd like to be able to "work ahead", much like I would in school, and I figure this will allow me to get the most from each weekly lesson, by having somewhat of an idea what's coming and such.
 
The estimated time of your customer drum solo satisfaction is currently 15 to 20 minutes.

Always liked Dan Hickey's solo just for how silly the premise is.

My kit's kinda shoved in a corner for now. :( My band's practice space is getting renovated, and I'm too lazy to put the mesh heads on and practice in the apartment. Pearl Rhythm Traveler kit, Remo heads, Zildjian cymbals. Nothing fancy or all that good, but I'm nothing fancy or all that good either so it fits.

Yes that is a sock wrapped around the cowbell.

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I have a friend with a studio and I go by occasionally to mess with the drums. It's real fun but goddamn my body is NOT conditioned for playing drums at all.

I can't keep a beat for more than a minute max or else my legs get fatigued :lol :(
 
effingvic said:
I have a friend with a studio and I go by occasionally to mess with the drums. It's real fun but goddamn my body is NOT conditioned for playing drums at all.

I can't keep a beat for more than a minute max or else my legs get fatigued :lol :(
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Even as a novice I gotta say you must be doing bass wrong, there's no way you should tire so quickly.
 
Bump for some advice:

Already bought the set mentioned above, but a local got in touch with me offering

I have for sale a 5 pc. set of white CB700 drums. Included are hi-hat w/cymbles, 2 pro grade Pearl boom cymble stands w/cymbles, throne, and snare stand
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For $100, is this enough of a deal that I should jump on it regardless and maybe unload the other set for about what I paid?
 
Petrie said:
Bump for some advice:

Already bought the set mentioned above, but a local got in touch with me offering



For $100, is this enough of a deal that I should jump on it regardless and maybe unload the other set for about what I paid?
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Are you not happy with your current kit? Or just plan to save money? I'd stick with your PDP kit. Anywho, for benefiting your practice, onlinedrummer and drummerworld both offer practice routines for beginners and advanced players.

In addition to anything you'd find online, I recommend just simply buying books, such as Stick Control, Ted Reed's Syncopation, or various coordination books. You can get hundreds of hours and years of practice material from just a few pages of each book, if you approach your practicing in a patient manner.

Milchmonster said:
So, I've finally enough money to buy a drum set the next month and I need some help. I want a set that'll also sound good when I get better.

I was thinking about one of those 2:
http://www.thomann.de/de/pearl_fz725zc_standard_21.htm
http://www.thomann.de/de/tama_imperialstar_standardmcsbk.htm

The price of those 2 would be awesome as they include a drum throne and everything but as I said, I want a set that'll also sound good in a few years. And let's say I'm a bit sceptical about those cymbals. Now, the question is if the drums are good enough that I'll buy that set and get some totally awesome but fuck expensive cymbals later or if I should spend some more cash and get some better (or at least more expensive) drums like these and a good starter cymbal set like this (maybe?) that I can upgrade later if I want to.
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That Pearl Forum is too expensive for what it is, I even got my Pearl Vision for cheaper, I'd recommend buying the nicer Tama kit, and Sabian B8 cymbals. Buy starter cymbals first, then top tier cymbals if you continue playing and wanna take your kit to the next level. I think it is pointless to buy intermediate cymbals because you would end up spending more money in the long run since you'd most likely want to upgrade again.
 
So today I got a Ludwig drum set from my brother because he moved into a new apartment and cant bring it there. Its got the 3 toms, high hat, crash and ride symbol along with the kick and snare drum. I played drums for about 2 years when I was in middle school but that was over 8 or 9 years ago.

I am just wondering if there was somewhere online that would help me start to learn again or if you guys have any tips for a beginner. I play guitar and a little piano so I do have a musical background. Just looking for advice here
 
Want to know the best way ever to learn the drums....just start playing along to music :lol

Countless people taught themselves this way and it's great because having lessons or books you practice from will give you formation and schooled learning, but with playing freely and openly you kind of make your own way.

I know this from years of experience now. I don't regret the 10 years of lessons, marching band and jazz band I did, but I noticed for awhile my playing felt rigid and stiff. It wasn't until I started playing more on my own that I loosened up and was more open to experiment.
 
BobDylan said:
So today I got a Ludwig drum set from my brother because he moved into a new apartment and cant bring it there. Its got the 3 toms, high hat, crash and ride symbol along with the kick and snare drum. I played drums for about 2 years when I was in middle school but that was over 8 or 9 years ago.

I am just wondering if there was somewhere online that would help me start to learn again or if you guys have any tips for a beginner. I play guitar and a little piano so I do have a musical background. Just looking for advice here
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*twitch*

Cymbal. I know you mean well, but... cymbal. It's spelled cymbal. I hate when real drummers can't spell that.

I got no idea how to teach you though. I learned from Rock Band and experimenting, and that's not a really good idea.
 
Charron said:
*twitch*

Cymbal. I know you mean well, but... cymbal. It's spelled cymbal. I hate when real drummers can't spell that.

I got no idea how to teach you though. I learned from Rock Band and experimenting, and that's not a really good idea.
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haha honest mistake. im high so things like that slip. It makes me twitch as well making mistakes like that. anyway I played for about 2 hours to some guitar that I wrote myself and then for a little while to a few red hot chili peppers songs. surprisingly my stick speed is not as bad as I expected it to be
 
BobDylan said:
So today I got a Ludwig drum set from my brother because he moved into a new apartment and cant bring it there. Its got the 3 toms, high hat, crash and ride symbol along with the kick and snare drum. I played drums for about 2 years when I was in middle school but that was over 8 or 9 years ago.

I am just wondering if there was somewhere online that would help me start to learn again or if you guys have any tips for a beginner. I play guitar and a little piano so I do have a musical background. Just looking for advice here
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Practice pad, a pair of sticks, Stick Control book
 
Hey peoples. Not sure if this is still active but Im looking to actual get some drum heads instead of the shitty ones that came with my Ludwig set.

Not familiar with this at all but Im looking at Evans G2s for the toms and a REMO Emperor for the snare. Is it true you should go with thinner/singly ply for resonant side? Definitely makes sense for the snare but I wasnt sure about the others. Figured I'd just go with the G1s then for the toms and then a REMO Diplomat for the bottom of the snare.

Oh yea, also looking at the Remo Powerstroke 3 for my bass and then the Aquarian Regulator for the resonant side based on good things Ive heard.

Any other recommendations are well appreciated though. I have a modest "pro-beginner/ lite-intermediate" Ludwig set so I dont want to go crazy on equipment that it wont take advantage of.

I'll have had my set for a year this December. After replacing the original crappy heads, how often do you replace them? Not in a band, dont do shows, etc. Just practice on my own for fun.
 
What type of drum kit did Kevin Haskins used? is there particuler drum kit that produces that deep base drums that most Gothic/post-punk bands uses?

they sound awsome.
 
Some old, old pictures of my acoustic kit...

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It's inordinately large, and not a kit I ever use for recording and not one I ever used for gigs back when I was in the band - it's just massive for my own twisted fun, really. I don't practice much at all these days, sadly. Hard to find the time! I also have a modest electric kit - a fairly basic one.
 
I can say that practicing rolls and metronome will actually help quite a bit break past plateau's you might hit.

I've got a Pearl session series kit which I've had for almost 15 years. Heads and tuning is what makes the drums (imo) and make sure you keep things tuned. I've had issues since my kit is out in the garage and the heads go through major temp. swings which is annoying but oh well.

Adding to the drummers list...
Matt Cameron
Josh Freese

Glad to see this thread. :D
 
Any advice re: electronic drums? Probably getting this for Christmas, just wondering what else I'll want and what I'll want to know about them in general.
 
So I'm going to buy my first set when I go back to school in a few days. I want to spend as little as possible but I also want to have a set that isn't just a "beginner" one. I've been looking around (craigslist and amazon) and the best deal I can find for a new set on amazon is a Gammon one for $260 total. Is Gammon a good brand?...The reviews are mostly good, but they say "beginner set" a lot in them. Not sure what that really entails as I've never had a set before.
As for craigslist, I haven't got a hold of anyone yet, but there's an almost brand new Pearl set for $425, a used Pearl that looks decent from the pictures for $350, and a rather used looking Ludwig set for $200. I want something that will last and has a good sound; I'm not looking to buy another set after this one hopefully. So...should I buy a well-known brand name used set for more or a brand new lesser known and unsure quality (but maybe good) set for less?
 
Nard Bagman said:
So I'm going to buy my first set when I go back to school in a few days. I want to spend as little as possible but I also want to have a set that isn't just a "beginner" one. I've been looking around (craigslist and amazon) and the best deal I can find for a new set on amazon is a Gammon one for $260 total. Is Gammon a good brand?...The reviews are mostly good, but they say "beginner set" a lot in them. Not sure what that really entails as I've never had a set before.
As for craigslist, I haven't got a hold of anyone yet, but there's an almost brand new Pearl set for $425, a used Pearl that looks decent from the pictures for $350, and a rather used looking Ludwig set for $200. I want something that will last and has a good sound; I'm not looking to buy another set after this one hopefully. So...should I buy a well-known brand name used set for more or a brand new lesser known and unsure quality (but maybe good) set for less?
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I used a brand new $500 tama rockstar kit for about 10 years. I was in a local band for many years and I essentially learned to play on it. I would recommend it as a good starter through intermediate kit. You'll upgrade over time by adding/replacing hardware, snare drum, pedals, etc but the base kit will do you just fine.
 
I'm primarily a guitarist, but I started drumming a couple years ago just for fun.

Pearl shells
Yamaha Oak Custom snare
Sabian AAX, HHX, and Vault cymbals
Remo Emperor heads, Controlled Sound on snare, Powerstroke 3 on bass
Tama Iron Cobra double bass
Pearl Eliminator Hi-Hat

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Drumming is not my steed, and I'm not sure if this belong here, but I've always gotten some really primal pleasure out of watching jazz drummers for some odd reason. Something about the charisma of their focus on the playing almost forces you away from the sound and is really enjoyable to watch.

Here's a couple of video of Papa Jo Jones that kinda exemplifies what I'm talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrKShqNkcnI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ziQkWyIwo4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7waG5bzPoIo

LOVE that fucking showbiz smile.
 
Pilgor said:
I'm primarily a guitarist, but I started drumming a couple years ago just for fun.

Pearl shells
Yamaha Oak Custom snare
Sabian AAX, HHX, and Vault cymbals
Remo Emperor heads, Controlled Sound on snare, Powerstroke 3 on bass
Tama Iron Cobra double bass
Pearl Eliminator Hi-Hat

drums.jpg
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Nice kit
 
If anyone is interested in my cymbals, I'm selling them for a lot cheaper than you'll find anywhere

Sabian AAX 16" and 18" crashes, 20" Stage ride, and 14" Stage hats for $499 if anyone is looking for high tier cymbals.

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