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[thefro]

Obama won 55% of Latinos in VA

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

He'll take Wisconsin in the meantime as well.

And if the same stats bear out OH and TX folks are going to be like "Wait. We don't live in Iceland. What do they get that we don't?"

I honestly didn't expect Feb would confer this much inevitability to Bams but the numbers really don't point to anything else at this point.

 

[Master Thespian]

Can someone Photoshop Barack's head onto the Rock for me? Sweet Jesus, I smell what Barack is cooking.

 

[Tobor]

A few legislations and political promises amount to little when the ties are there... once again, Obama is preaching what is working for him.

Moving the goalposts, are we? :lol

 

[reilo]

A few legislations and political promises amount to little when the ties are there... once again, Obama is preaching what is working for him.

So let me get this straight... He outlines his policy, his political agenda, and what he wants to change in Washington...

Your reply is: Oh, he can't do it.

Bravo sir. You are what we call a pessimist.

 

[Cooter]

So the only group he lost in VA is white women? Unbelievable.

 

[Tamanon]

Obama won 55% of Latinos in VA

Yeah that's another huge number, all the demographics that were his weakness seem to be turning to him.

Prepare for MSNBC to spend the next hour and a half killing time dissecting VA and DC numbers waiting on Maryland.:lol

 

[siamesedreamer]

The black turnout for Obama the last few weeks is just a glimpse of what we'll see in the fall. Obama on the ticket gives the DEMs a very real shot at a fillibuster-proof majority.

The down ticket REPs should be shaking in their boots.

 

[MThanded]

So let me get this straight... He outlines his policy, his political agenda, and what he wants to change in Washington...

Your reply is: Oh, he can't do it.

Bravo sir. You are what we call a hater.

Fixed

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Yeah that's another huge number, all the demographics that were his weakness seem to be turning to him.

Prepare for MSNBC to spend the next hour and a half killing time dissecting VA and DC numbers waiting on Maryland.:lol

Dude, they are already dissecting the predictions about Maryland waiting for the results, I don't know what they are going to do with another half hour!

 

[Qwerty710710]

25% in VA

Obama 62
Clinton 37

 

[GhaleonEB]

Is there a more direct link to results other than CNN.

 

[RiZ III]

I really thought Obama was kinda over after NH.. can't believe he made such a huge comeback. Actually, I never even thought he had any chance against Clinton so all this is pretty darn amazing.

 

[Bulla564]

So let me get this straight... He outlines his policy, his political agenda, and what he wants to change in Washington...

Your reply is: Oh, he can't do it.

Bravo sir. You are what we call a pessimist.

That's what happens when you follow politics closely...

P.S. my actual answer is that he is NOT the innocent puppy he claims to be when it comes to lobbyists. He is pandering to the post-Bush change crowd.

 

[Tamanon]

Dude, they are already dissecting the predictions about Maryland waiting for the results, I don't know what they are going to do with another half hour!

Half hour? The polls are open for another hour and a half now.:lol :lol

 

[Qwerty710710]

Is there a more direct link to results other than CNN.

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia....2-472E-8051-CF1B1C3786A4\Unofficial\1_s.shtml

 

[Juice]

If he gets more than 85% does he get all the delegates? 15% rule?

This is true. He hits 85 and she gets nashing

 

[grandjedi6]

Oh, I get why the black vote was down in percentage from 2004. Its not because less blacks voted, but because the entire voter pool grew

 

[GhaleonEB]

That's what happens when you follow politics closely...

P.S. my actual answer is that he is NOT the innocent puppy he claims to be when it comes to lobbyists. He is pandering to the post-Bush change crowd.

Again, back that up. Preferably with the same level of detail that benjaminbirdie melted my face with on the last page.

 

[Guy Legend]

Obama won 55% of Latinos in VA

lol

 

[ConfusingJazz]

I really thought Obama was kinda over after NH.. can't believe he made such a huge comeback. Actually, I never even thought he had any chance against Clinton so all this is pretty darn amazing.

You really need to see the man speak live to understand it. Its something special that you don't usually feel about politicians. Its the closest thing I can subscribe it to is a pumped up college sports crowd when the home team starts to kick ass.

 

[reilo]

That's what happens when you follow politics closely...

P.S. my actual answer is that he is NOT the innocent puppy he claims to be when it comes to lobbyists. He is pandering to the post-Bush change crowd.

Basically, you have nothing to back-up your resentment towards Obama except some off-the-cuff belief that he is lying? Mmmkay.

Then again, you are okay with supporting someone [in this case, Hillary] that has no qualms to pander to lobbyists?

Bravo, you are now a hypocrite.

 

[Mifune]

I really thought Obama was kinda over after NH.. can't believe he made such a huge comeback. Actually, I never even thought he had any chance against Clinton so all this is pretty darn amazing.

Agreed. I was horribly depressed after NH and thought Clinton would roll to the nomination.

 

[VALIS]

These wins are so definitive in terms of stats that there's no way Hillary will be able to survive a month of this kind of scrutiny, and there's NO way this won't have a gargantuan impact on the votes of Ohioans and Texans.

I wouldn't go that far. Obama's momentum is staggering right now, but I still wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary pull out Ohio, Penn and Texas. Remember, even though our man Barry has been defying all odds, she's been winning most of the mega-states like Cali and NY and NJ and Massachusetts.

Then again, those are all traditional blue states while PA, TX and OH aren't.

I dunno. I wouldn't be surprised, though.

 

[Odysseus]

i'm watching the results roll in on cnn in glorious high definition (why does it matter? new tv smell, that's why), and i sat there and marvelled that you can tell just by the numbers that the democratic base is far more energized than the republicans in virginia. for a state that has gone red every election since 1968, there are tens of thousands more democrats voting so far. part of that is that the republican race is all but over, sure, but generally there's also less to like about the republicans and therefore less of a reason to bother to go out and vote.

 

[GhaleonEB]

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia....2-472E-8051-CF1B1C3786A4\Unofficial\1_s.shtml

Thanks.

 

[Tobor]

Basically, you have nothing to back-up your resentment towards Obama except some off-the-cuff belief that he is lying? Mmmkay.

Then again, you are okay with supporting someone [in this case, Hillary] that has no qualms to pander to lobbyists?

Bravo, you are now a hypocrite.

First he said Obama had no real agenda. BB schooled him, so now Obama is a panderer. Classic.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

Obama won 55% of Latinos in VA

 

[Amir0x]

Will try to get the source for you, but Hillary is preferred in Europe, Latin America, and many other parts of the world. Obama has a nice buzz going, but Hillary is better suited with established relations all over the world. On the economy, it DOES count that she was the wife of Bill Clinton. On November, people will remember the Clinton years, and you can look at Wiki if you want a definition for the policies of that period.

1. So your lone belief of her holding "superior international support" (which would evaporate as well if Obama got the nomination and ultimately mean nothing) is polls that you can't even substantiate with evidence?

2. Do you have any hard-policy beliefs that make you feel she'd be better? It's true that Obama wins one of the most advertised foreign policy judgment calls (on IRAQ), so that's a point for him... but I'm sure you have more reasons. So keep elaborating.

3. It matters what Bill Clinton's economic strategy was in voting for Hillary based on her economic plan? I thought we were voting for Hilldawg? Any how does that matter, do you believe she's going to be a Bill Clinton economist? Many of her voting decisions do not echo his policies at all.

My girlfriend (has never voted or cared for politics in her life was the one that noted how vague and amateurish Obama was in debates (a.k.a in unscripted situations). I agree with her.

What does that have to do with you being vague?

How will Obama start ending it? will he reform campaign financing? will he get rid of lobbyists? what policy statements has he made in order to change Washington? or are you just THAT gullible that you fall for his "hopemongering" as you call it?

The real meat of your post.

a. How will Obama start ending [Washington Corruption]? The biggest way is how much his is for governmental transparency. He is for building a database that allows the public to browse through government budget in full, and for disclosing how much federal contractors spend on lobbyists. He is even for not signing any bill that he did not first allow five days for American people to complete review each one, even to comment on them! This is a bit idealistic, of course, it'll have very little sway on the politics one way or another... but it extends the TRANSPARENCY of government, which is a billion times better than what we have now.

b. Will he reform campaign financing? Yes! He supported Feingold's Presidential Public Funding/Financing System, which was a HUGE step toward this goal, and consistently talks about the need for reform. He has already outlined many steps to get this down. Please read.

c. what policy statements has he made in order to change Washington? I have no freaking idea but maybe you do some research?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I wouldn't go that far. Obama's momentum is staggering right now, but I still wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary pull out Ohio, Penn and Texas. Remember, even though our man Barry has been defying all odds, she's been winning most of the mega-states like Cali and NY and NJ and Massachusetts.

Then again, those are all traditional blue states while PA, TX and OH aren't.

I dunno. I wouldn't be surprised, though.

What's really that different between VA and OH, though? Enough to make up 20 points?

Just as one example.

I'm not saying it's a lock, and anything can happen, but Obama is commanding leads across every demo.

 

[siamesedreamer]

That's what happens when you follow politics closely...

P.S. my actual answer is that he is NOT the innocent puppy he claims to be when it comes to lobbyists. He is pandering to the post-Bush change crowd.

Dude...if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. The election in the fall is going to be BRUTAL for the REPs/conservatives. No sense in trying to complain now.

 

[Tobor]

1. So your lone belief of her holding "superior international support" (which would evaporate as well if Obama got the nomination and ultimately mean nothing) is polls that you can't even substantiate with evidence?

2. Do you have any hard-policy beliefs that make you feel she'd be better? It's true that Obama wins one of the most advertised foreign policy judgment calls (on IRAQ), so that's a point for him... but I'm sure you have more reasons. So keep elaborating.

3. It matters what Bill Clinton's economic strategy was in voting for Hillary based on her economic plan? I thought we were voting for Hilldawg? Any how does that matter, do you believe she's going to be a Bill Clinton economist? Many of her voting decisions do not echo his policies at all.



What does that have to do with you being vague?



The real meat of your post.

a. How will Obama start ending [Washington Corruption]? The biggest way is how much his is for governmental transparency. He is for building a database that allows the public to browse through government budget in full, and for disclosing how much federal contractors spend on lobbyists. He is even for not signing any bill that he did not first allow five days for American people to complete review each one, even to comment on them! This is a bit idealistic, of course, it'll have very little sway on the politics one way or another... but it extends the TRANSPARENCY of government, which is a billion times better than what we have now.

b. Will he reform campaign financing? Yes! He supported Feingold's Presidential Public Funding/Financing System, which was a HUGE step toward this goal, and consistently talks about the need for reform. He has already outlined many steps to get this down. Please read.

c. what policy statements has he made in order to change Washington? I have no freaking idea but maybe you do some research?

Bulla schooled again. Where will he move the goalposts too now?

 

[Seth C]

Haha...Huckabee is doing all he can to screw with the GOP.

 

[Flo_Evans]

YES! I haven't felt this good about politics in a very long time. Hell I think the last president I actually liked was Regan. I was too young to even understand what he was doing. I just thought of him as my TV grandpa.

What worries me is that once Obama wins, I will start to hate him like I hate pretty much all politicians. He has promised some pretty drastic stuff. I believe that to reach the moon you have to aim for the stars. Will be interesting to see how much progress he can make.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Obamanation!

Good Christ, thats some deep and utter ownage.

 

[Funky Papa]

I don't like McCain, but I find the Huckabee love really scary. The idea of that loon having a shot for the White House scares the crap out of me, and I am not even American.

 

[Qwerty710710]

With 35% in Obama already has 112K votes 30 point lead over Clinton.

 

[Juice]

First he said Obama had no real agenda, BB schooled him, so now Obama is a panderer. Classic.

Obama said it best on 60 Minutes: he started out being too detailed and everyone wrote him off as an intellectual that couldn't reach uneducated people. Then he started broadening his message to themes that everyone could relate to, without drilling down into specific policy ideas, and the same people said he wasn't clear on the issues. He said the rational was that if they presented the policy and platform well on the website, anyone who was attracted to the broader message would go out to the site and be easily informed (supposedly he brings up the website at his stump speech in part for this reason, in part to raise funds)

 

[RiskyChris]

65/34!!

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia....1-CF1B1C3786A4/Unofficial/1_s.shtml?refresh=5

 

[GhaleonEB]

Up by 30% again. A +30 spread would be most delicious.

 

[Speevy]

I haven't been following this.

If Obama keeps winning everything, but Hillary wins Ohio and Texas, does Hillary win?

 

[Bulla564]

Basically, you have nothing to back-up your resentment towards Obama except some off-the-cuff belief that he is lying? Mmmkay.

Then again, you are okay with supporting someone [in this case, Hillary] that has no qualms to pander to lobbyists?

Bravo, you are now a hypocrite.

Because I am not casting my vote based on FANTASY (as Edwards called it) promises about lobbyists, when the country is facing an incredibly tough time in its history. It is not an issue that I feel the need to call out candidates on, when there are inmensely more important things that the next President needs to take care of.

I don't need an idealist, I need a leader, and Obama is not IT at this point. Maybe in 2016.

 

[RiskyChris]

I don't need an idealist, I need a leader, and Obama is not IT at this point. Maybe in 2016.

Good thing the rest of America isn't like you. Obama can really motivate people, WHAT LEADERS DO.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Because I am not casting my vote based on FANTASY (as Edwards called it) promises about lobbyists, when the country is facing an incredibly tough time in its history. It is not an issue that I feel the need to call out candidates on, when there are inmensely more important things that the next President needs to take care of.

I don't need an idealist, I need a leader, and Obama is not IT at this point. Maybe in 2016.

How is he not a leader when he draws the kinds of crowds and support that he does?

Fucking teleportation?

 

[Tamanon]

I haven't been following this.

If Obama keeps winning everything, but Hillary wins Ohio and Texas, does Hillary win?

Depends. Most likely not, her only chance is winning Ohio and Texas big. We'll see going forward.

 

[grandjedi6]

I haven't been following this.

If Obama keeps winning everything, but Hillary wins Ohio and Texas, does Hillary win?

If Hillary wins by a large percentage, it will be a tie

Otherwise Obama wins in all other scenarios

 

[Tobor]

Because I am not casting my vote based on FANTASY (as Edwards called it) promises about lobbyists, when the country is facing an incredibly tough time in its history. It is not an issue that I feel the need to call out candidates on, when there are inmensely more important things that the next President needs to take care of.

I don't need an idealist, I need a leader, and Obama is not IT at this point. Maybe in 2016.

Will you be able to dig your head out of the sand by then?

 

[VALIS]

I haven't been following this.

If Obama keeps winning everything, but Hillary wins Ohio and Texas, does Hillary win?

Nothing really, it just furthers the likelihood of a stalemate and the Dem nomination coming down to the party deciding things instead of the people.

 

[Zeed]

I haven't been following this.

If Obama keeps winning everything, but Hillary wins Ohio and Texas, does Hillary win?

Not if he takes Pennsylvania.

She needs all three of those by sizeable margins if she wants to win. It's possible that she'll take all three, but not overwhelmingly enough to beat him.

 

[Seth C]

I haven't been following this.

If Obama keeps winning everything, but Hillary wins Ohio and Texas, does Hillary win?

She would need to win them big to even bring this race back to "even." I do not see that happening at this point. If she does win both, I'd wager nothing more than a 55/45 split.