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Official Feb. 12th Primary Thread (Obama/McCain Beltway SWEEP SWEEP)

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Zeed said:
My god CNN, never cut off Obama for McCain again. It was like hearing a corpse talk.
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McCain supporters should hope for that too. The contrast was too striking. Better to not hear him speak than to hear him drone on to a few people right after Obama pumped up 17,000+ people at a stadium.

That bit of free air time probably hurt McCain more than helped him.
 
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/12/clinton-still-no-congratulations-for-obama/

EL PASO, Texas (CNN) – For the second election night in a row, Hillary Clinton failed to acknowledge or congratulate Barack Obama after he won the day in dominating fashion.

On Tuesday in El Paso, hours after Virginia had been called for Obama, she stuck to her “Texas campaign kickoff” message and did not stray from an energetic, Lone Star-themed stump speech. She did mention Obama by name, only to chide his health care plan.

On Saturday night in Richmond, Virginia, Clinton spoke to a crowd of thousands at the state’s annual Jefferson-Jackson dinner, but she ignored Obama’s quartet of blowout primary and caucus wins that day as well (Obama also won the Maine caucuses the next day).

The courtesy of conceding a primary or caucus loss — and then congratulating your opponent — is by no means required. But it has become standard practice during campaign season.

Clinton congratulated Obama and John Edwards after their first and second place finishes in the Iowa caucuses. Obama returned the favor in New Hampshire, saying Clinton “did an outstanding job.” That courtesy continued through the early states.

But as the race has shifted to a delegate chase with dozens of states in play around the country, the notion of congratulating one’s opponent seems, for Clinton, to have fallen by the wayside.
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:lol It's true.
 
The line OUTSIDE of where Obama just spoke WOWOOWOWO :lol

Feb11CollegeParkMD_lineoutside.jpg
 
In the Chesapeake Rout, according to exit polls in Maryland, Obama won:
Latino Voters By Six Points: 53-47
All Religions (Including Catholics)
All Age Groups (Including Seniors)
All Regions
All Education Levels
And Women by TWENTY ONE POINTS...
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:lol :lol DAMN!
 
speculawyer said:
The very liberal birthplace of Obama is pretty much a lost cause for Hillary.
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It's a caucus too, isn't it?

100% vote for Obama confirmed.
 
Uh oh . . . he comes the secret attack by Hillary's team:

NAACP head wants barred delegates seated By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 21 minutes ago
WASHINGTON — A prominent civil rights leader has told the Democratic National Committee that refusing to seat delegates from Florida and Michigan would disenfranchise both states' minority communities.

In a Feb. 8 letter to DNC Chairman Howard Dean, NAACP chairman Julian Bond expressed "great concern at the prospect that million of voters in Michigan and Florida could ultimately have their votes completely discounted." Refusing to seat the states' delegations could remind voters of the "sordid history of racially discriminatory primaries," he said.

The DNC penalized Michigan and Florida for moving their primaries to earlier dates in violation of party rules. Both states were stripped of their delegates, and the party's presidential candidates signed a pledge not to campaign in either state. Florida lost all 210 delegates, including its superdelegates; Michigan, 156.

Since then, facing the prospect of a drawn-out delegate battle with Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign has pushed hard for both states' delegations to be seated. Clinton won Florida's primary Jan. 29 and Michigan's Jan. 15, but was the only candidate to appear on the Michigan ballot after the other candidates removed their names.

In an interview, Bond said the NAACP had taken no position in the race between Clinton and Obama and would not endorse either candidate. He sent the letter on behalf of the voters in Michigan and especially Florida, where the Republican-controlled legislature and governor changed the state's primary date.

"It struck me as making the voters, including minority voters in Florida particularly, victims of the Republican legislature in Florida. I wanted to get Chairman Dean to find some way to rectify the situation," Bond said.

The DNC has said it would allow both states to hold a different contest, probably a caucus, that would comply with party rules. Either state can also appeal the penalty to the DNC credentials committee, which will not meet again until this summer.
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Nice touch getting the NCAAP head to bring this up.
 
In the Chesapeake Rout, according to exit polls in Maryland, Obama won:
Latino Voters By Six Points: 53-47
All Religions (Including Catholics)
All Age Groups (Including Seniors)
All Regions
All Education Levels
And Women by TWENTY ONE POINTS...
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speculawyer said:
Uh oh . . . he comes the secret attack by Hillary's team:



Nice touch getting the NCAAP head to bring this up.
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That was brought up earlier and it ultimately won't matter. Either way, at this point, even if MI and FL are counted, Hillary apparently still won't have caught up in pledged delegates
 
CowboyAstronaut said:
The line OUTSIDE of where Obama just spoke WOWOOWOWO :lol

Feb11CollegeParkMD_lineoutside.jpg
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That's college park, MD. He was there yesterday(so was I :D ). That line is nowhere NEAR how long and huge it actually was. It was by very far the largest, longest line I've ever seen.
 
Although the Clinton campaign is quick to point out that states don't select the nominee, Obama has now won 21 states to Clinton's 10. That is going to be hard to shake off as it is a huge difference.
 
speculawyer said:
Uh oh . . . he comes the secret attack by Hillary's team:



Nice touch getting the NCAAP head to bring this up.
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I didn't hear clearly since I wasn't paying attention at first, but I think Al Sharpton just said he opposes counting MI and FL results when the rules said they wouldn't before.
 
maximum360 said:
Truth spoken.

I guess that's why Hillary always goes first. :lol
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Well lately it's because she's not winning:P

Hito: Yes, Sharpton said he opposed the votes counting because you have to follow the rules.
 
sangreal said:
I don't think so... they differ from the AP's numbers, and the AP calls the superdelegates to verify

(I think the AP has her with more, FWIW)
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The AP's superdelegate tallies are less reliable than CNN or DCW's.
 
Just looking at the numbers... Obama is pulling frontrunner numbers. These are the sort of numbers you normally get when you're the only candidate on the ballot, and he's been getting them for eight states in a row. Even if Hillary won Texas and Ohio by narrow margins, these numbers definitely suggest that those wins shouldn't make her frontrunner.
 
Hitokage said:
I didn't hear clearly since I wasn't paying attention at first, but I think Al Sharpton just said he opposes counting MI and FL results when the rules said they wouldn't before.
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He did :D

I don't know if thats a good thing or a bad thing. He also said he would not endorse either candidate.
 
Obama vs McCain is going to be such a good general. Clear differences and two candidates that will speak their mind. Sign me up.
 
CNN adding MI and FL to Hillary's "win" category (even though they mention that they don't count). What's the point?

Too much Obama love I guess. Gotta even it out.
 
maximum360 said:
CNN adding MI and FL to Hillary's "win" category (even though they mention that they don't count). What's the point?

Too much Obama love I guess. Gotta even it out.
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Also, I'm sure it's been discussed before, but why the hell do they included the superdelegates? Might as well include the early Ohio poll results while they're at it.
 
maximum360 said:
CNN adding MI and FL to Hillary's "win" category (even though they mention that they don't count). What's the point?

Too much Obama love I guess. Gotta even it out.
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Are they including the deligates, or just adding to the number of "wins"?
 
Al Sharpton actually doing something I approve of? Wow!! :lol

A comment I saw on Obama's site.

I think I have a new found respect for Rev. Sharpton. If I just heard him correctly on MSNBC, he loves what BO is doing but has decided to not endorse and stay neutral in order to fight the NAACP if they try to change the rules in the middle of the game by seating FL and Michigan's delegates. Did I hear him correctly?
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Dice Man said:
Best line in a political speech:

'"Obama I'm a Republican, but I support you."
and I say,
'Thank you'"
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It's better when he adds the "why are we whispering" part.

Sharpton didn't say he was fighting the NAACP movement, he said he was staying neutral to deal with civil rights issues.
 
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