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Official: SCEI re-confirms spring PS3 launch

Piper Az said:
It's still possible that Sony could pull a surprise and launch this Spring - as soon as the final spec is set on stone. It would just be a piss-poor launch with limited supply and high % defects a la the Xbox360 launch.
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Sony already said spring is from april to june and they might delay the launch so to be suprised by anything but february or march is quite strange.

And I am sure they take the time to do it right. Didnt some Sony exec say, they set he launch date depending on how good the x360 does? If that was true I wouldnt even be surprised by a 2007 launch.
 
I <3 Katamari said:
Contrary to popular believe, Sony won't be #1 forever in this market "just because they're Sony".
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I wasn't saying that. I was saying that internally, Sony must have its timeline mapped out. Up to now, there has been no need to show their hand before the plan says to do so. (Unless this crazy Merrill Lynch story causes total pandemonium, which it's starting to look like now.)

Who knows, Sony may be planning to blow out E3 with playable games and a Japanese launch announcement for June. BOOM. Certainly nothing Microsoft has done requires an immediate reaction... perhaps the (over)reaction to this ML story will.

And if something has gone terribly wrong with the PS3 timeline, well, we won't know for sure until Sony says so.
 
quetz67 said:
Sony already said spring is from april to june
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Not that it matters, but I don't think they ever gave a range of months. They've been deliberately vague, leaving it up to our interpretation. "Spring 06" is a nice floaty term for them to work with (or one might have thought so, previously anyway).
 
Piper Az said:
I wrote "it would", not "it will". Read it right, smart ass.
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you don't know what 'it would', what 'it should', or what 'it could' be like... because, frankly, you don't know shit about what Sony actually has ready. You are assuming 'it would suck if launched in Spring'.

Way to go. You get a gold star on your huge forehead.
 
quetz67 said:
And I am sure they take the time to do it right. Didnt some Sony exec say, they set he launch date depending on how good the x360 does? If that was true I wouldnt even be surprised by a 2007 launch.
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Doubtful since its very clear already that they aren't going to rush the system out the door. And if the 360 wasn't doing so well, they wouldn't hold it back because of that and continue to let the PS2 go the way it is, they'd just go in for the kill if the PS3 was ready to go.
 
TheJollyCorner said:
you don't know what 'it would', what 'it should', or what 'it could' be like... because, frankly, you don't know shit about what Sony actually has ready. You are assuming 'it would suck if launched in Spring'.

Way to go. You get a gold star on your huge forehead.
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You're right in saying I don't know what Sony's planning. If I do, I would put it in the "future real conditional" term (e.g. "will"). Since I don't know, I can only put in in the "future unreal conditional" term (e.g. "would"), which leaves a possiblity that anything could happen. Get your grammar straight before trying to make any cohesive comments. It's the least you could do.

Edit: my apologies to those who are focusing on the news of PS3 delay for screwing around with these idiotic posts.
 
SolidSnakex said:
Doubtful since its very clear already that they aren't going to rush the system out the door. And if the 360 wasn't doing so well, they wouldn't hold it back because of that and continue to let the PS2 go the way it is, they'd just go in for the kill if the PS3 was ready to go.
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Not necessarily, you already mentioned the PS2 and I am sure Sony would expand the life of PS2 if there is no need to move to next gen. So they might be more interested how x360 competing with PS2, not PS3.

Microsoft wanted to get rid of xbox because they still lost money with every machine sold. But the PS2 makes money from hardware and games. That will at least be different for the first year(s) of PS3.
 
Meh i was gonna make my own thread but whatever its probably been posted before

a story about the PS3 spring launch, and production cost in the first year. I cant believe the quoted for blue ray!


http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=871

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quetz67 said:
Not necessarily, you already mentioned the PS2 and I am sure Sony would expand the life of PS2 if there is no need to move to next gen. So they might be more interested how x360 competing with PS2, not PS3.
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It wouldn't make sense because the 360's real competition is the PS3, not the PS3. Yah it'd be nice to keep that going, but if they've got a chance to just come in for the kill I think they'd take it. The PS2 isn't going to go anywhere for awhile, but the PS3 is going to be their top priority very soon. I don't think they'll hold the system back when they've got the games they want and the system itself is ready to ship, no matter how the competition is doing.
 
DarienA said:
Somes folks don't agree with some of the admittedly estimated prices.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=14836
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Thanks for the link Darien. It seems like some of the estimates (read Blu Ray and Cell) he just pulled out of thin air. I love how the reason for the high Cell estimate is due to it "supposedly" being difficult to fab due to the large die size and yet you've got IBM stating its ramping up yields of Cell "faster than on any chip we've done."
 
if they planned a delay, it wouldn't be in their interest to continue actively lying, would it? they'd just be evasive.

...but i still fully expect ps3 to be delayed and zelda to be moved to revolution. :x
 
Piper Az said:
I wrote "it would", not "it will". Read it right, smart ass.
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How does that change the idiocy of what you wrote? We can all agree on a certain amount of skepticism, but your comment of

Piper Az said:
It would just be a piss-poor launch with limited supply and high % defects a la the Xbox360 launch.
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Is pure drivel.

You know nothing and declarative statements such as those (vs the more subjective or opionated posts) are just ass.
 
i could see the cell costing that much...if it were a stand alone product i dunno if it would cost that much to literally make. I guess i should've said i DONT believe blu ray costs that much seems way overstated and probably is extrapolated from the high prices people est the stand alone players will go for when they debut.
 
Wax Free Vanilla said:
Sony are cutting it thin MassiveAttack. When are they going to announce this alleged PS3 show - can't you tap up your sources and find out? :lol
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I've stated what I know (or parts thereof) in the Merrill Lynch PR thread. SCEI is more than capable of pulling off big surprises and has done so on numerous occasions during the last 12 years. After what they did with PSP, I wouldn't bet against them.
 
sonycowboy said:
How does that change the idiocy of what you wrote? We can all agree on a certain amount of skepticism, but your comment of



Is pure drivel.

You know nothing and declarative statements such as those (vs the more subjective or opionated posts) are just ass.
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Mine was an opinionated post. If you disagree with what I think may happen, that's cool. I'm not offended. But I think your post is pure garbage [is that subjective enough for ya?]. If you want me to add the phrase like "I think" or "It probably may" to make you feel better, you can simply ask.
 
I'm pretty amazed at how many people are underestimating Sony's marketing prowess. Very few companies market and generate buzz amongst consumer's like Sony, and if their silence is indeed deliberate, and they plan to unveil everything in one massive go (which I fully believe), I greatly look forward to the enormous implosion that will occur here at GAF.

A can't-miss-thread that will be indeed.
 
i still say it'll launch sometime from April to June in Japan, with a port of RR6, maybe the new Tekken, a couple minor Sony first party titles, and the usual Japanese filler (mahjong shit).
 
quetz67 said:
I always wonder how sure people can be that something wasnt said. I dont know who said it, but I sure read such a statement.
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I'm sure enough. You asked whether a *Sony exec* said it, and no Sony exec has publically said anything like that. Now, some analysts and industry pundits have speculated just what you said, but that dramatically changes the significance of such a claim if it isn't coming from Sony themselves...
 
Kolgar said:
Sony owns this market. They don't HAVE to show anything now.

They know full well that when they're ready, BOOM. Whether at E3 or earlier, they can show their hand and send GAF and the gaming world into an orgy of PS3 love. It's a foregone conclusion. And it will make for much greater impact than a slow leak of screens and news lasting weeks or months.

BOOM. That's how Sony's going to do this. Because they can.
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Couldn't agree more.

I <3 Katamari said:
Contrary to popular believe, Sony won't be #1 forever in this market "just because they're Sony".
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Somebody's gonna be eatin' crow the next few generations.

Trust me brother....Sony WILL be No.1 for quite some time to come. They can do whatever the fuck they want. Their name brand is much stronger than you think.

People use to say if they didn't launch alongside the 360 last year they'd be doomed. People used to say if they didn't launch in January/February of this year they'd be doomed. Well, the PS3 still hasn't come out and won't for the next couple of months and guess what? Sony is doing fine.

I honestly feel the PS3 could be delayed until March/April of NEXT YEAR, and depite the amount of gaffers that cry, it will still sell shitloads more than Microsoft will ever dream of.

THAT my friends, is how strong the "Playstation" brand is.
 
isamu said:
They can do whatever the fuck they want. Their name brand is much stronger than you think.
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Kind of like how their entertainment electronics (TVs, CD players, etc.) brand is so strong? Er, used to be...

Things change. How many generations will it take? Beats the hell out of me, but to say that anybody in any industry owns any market due to their brand strength for the next few generations (what's that, twenty-five to forty years?) is just silly.
 
isamu said:
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Couldn't agree more.



Somebody's gonna be eatin' crow the next few generations.

Trust me brother....Sony WILL be No.1 for quite some time to come. They can do whatever the fuck they want. Their name brand is much stronger than you think.

People use to say if they didn't launch alongside the 360 last year they'd be doomed. People used to say if they didn't launch in January/February of this year they'd be doomed. Well, the PS3 still hasn't come out and won't for the next couple of months and guess what? Sony is doing fine.

I honestly feel the PS3 could be delayed until March/April of NEXT YEAR, and depite the amount of gaffers that cry, it will still sell shitloads more than Microsoft will ever dream of.

THAT my friends, is how strong the "Playstation" brand is.
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Nintendo's brand was just as strong after the SNES, and look what happened to them. Something as simple as a 450+ price would be enough IMO for a large reduction in marketshare for Sony.
 
BlueTsunami said:
Basically wrote in the other thread that its about time for Sony to release some info because its gotten to the point were the secrecy is detrimental to the company as a whole.

Talk about free product placement though (in newsarticles)...

CONSPIRACY!!!
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Gee, but I thought only the select elite that have to know are all Sony is concerned with!
 
I dont think third parties will determine the winner like it did 2 gen's ago. I mean look at PSP and DS.

PSP destroys DS in terms of western support and many japanese companies like Capcom support PSP more than DS. Yet even with this DS is out selling PSP by a very large margin in Japan.

Price I feel will be the most important factor to decide the winner this gen. Sony will see a huge drop in support of consumers of its $500 or more.
 
Has anyone seen the NPD charts lately? Sony doesn't need PS3 to outsell 360, they're still doing it with the PS2 :lol Just because MS was forced into a position to rush their next console early and try to hype up people who wouldn't buy a 360 doesn't mean Sony needs to follow suit. They are #1, most people already want a PS3.
 
damisa said:
Nintendo's brand was just as strong after the SNES, and look what happened to them. Something as simple as a 450+ price would be enough IMO for a large reduction in marketshare for Sony.
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what killed Nintendo is the lack of 3rd party support/cartridge format. Even with the year of delays, and despite launching with only 2 games, the N64 sold great out the gates and was as hot as any system, they just couldn't capitalize. I don't see anything Sony is doing, even if the PS3 gets delayed to 2007, being as big a mistake as what Nintendo did with the N64. Even launcying at 450 won't do much. This isn't 1996 anymore. We're living in a time where millions of people don't mind spending $300-400 for a new Ipod every 18 months, and somehow they are going to balk at $400 for a top of the line, incredibly hyped piece of technology like the PS3 (perception wise)?
 
It's also hard to say what exactly Sony defines as "spring", however. It's certainly not the traditional definition of the season, which covers the months of March, April and May.
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Whoever wrote the article must have failed Grade 2, the last day of spring is June 20th.
 
gotta laugh at ventt locking all the ps3 threads that feature news sony zealots don't like reading i guess (we'll know soon enough if the reports turn out to be true or not) :lol

NOTHING has been "re-confirmed" however except their DREAMS of wanting to launch spring (hoping for a near-miracle it seems)...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/fun.games/02/20/sony.playstation.reut/index.html
"We're waiting for them until the last possible minute, but the launch could be pushed back if they're not decided soon," the spokeswoman said. If the PS3 is not ready in time, the company will choose the next best timing for the launch, she said.


regardless of what was "RE-CONFIRMED" (LOL) it's clear as day sony is struggling to deal with waiting until this can properly and cost effectively be created (late 2006 in limited cost, 2007 more production???) OR throwing caution into the wind - taking HUGE losses - and trying to get Blu-ray some momentum in the market vs HD-DVD immediately (ie. "spring-summer)
 
parathod said:
I was hoping that would actually delay it a bit, just for quality assurance and top notch launch games.
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If it is ok to delay a game in order to get it right, it should be ok to deliver the system late. Sounds like Sony's response to the ML report has been similar to game developer's comments after a game is getting delayed: we want to get it right. Hell, I applaud Sony if they are holding out to get the very best equipment and software in the system. I question their silence, but they are still wihtin the window of Spring or so at least they say.

Plus, as an owner of an X360, I have plenty to keep me busy just as PS2, DS, PSP, PC, XBOX; etc. owners have plenty to keep them busy.
 
LOL... are these companies not catching onto the addition error or just making a mockery out of ML?

anyways...

Nintendo fell not only because of the third party support, but also because they refused to move on... they stuck with the Carts when it was time to chance... this in turn led dev's like Square to move onto greener pastures...

Sony IS moving on to new times... they're giving next gen bits in a next gen console... they're not beating a dead horse with a deadwood stick...

While this is publicity to them... product placement in the media... it's getting out of control... their shroud of secrets must come down a lil... give some bit of info here... OR, just give a set date on a real confirmed show that'll put it all to rest... but, set it soon...

Sony can do whatever they want, just getting tired of seeing these same articles on every forum... It can cost them $900 (err $800), i don't care... just gimme the system under $500 and all the games i want (which is where they'll make their money back) and i'll be happy...

I still stick to Japan (spring), US (sept/oct 06), EU (Dec 2011) :P
 
chinch said:
gotta laugh at ventt locking all the ps3 threads that feature news sony zealots don't like reading i guess (we'll know soon enough if the reports turn out to be true or not) :lol
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Yah because he need 100 threads from various people repeating the same shit.
 
chinch said:
gotta laugh at ventt locking all the ps3 threads that feature news sony zealots don't like reading i guess (we'll know soon enough if the reports turn out to be true or not) :lol
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chinch
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Oh..now I understand why you would say that. Its about keeping the forums clean. The same thing has been done for the Rev and the DS and any other console or handheld.
 
I'd lock any topic that is repeating itself over numerous threads, whether about Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft. Keeping it to one thread helps promote healthier discussion overall.

And if you're calling me a Sony "zealot" you might want to check my posting history, other than a PSP my main 2 game consoles under the TV at the moment are the Xbox and the 360, and I haven't even owned a working PS2 for over 12 months since it was damaged in a house move..

Now what was that you were saying...? :P
 
learn to read... i never called you a zealot, etc.

your locking spree is laughable, but it's your ball game to referee :lol
 
chinch said:
learn to read... i never called you a zealot, etc.

your locking spree is laughable, but it's your ball game to referee :lol
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Not as laughable as my banning spree... see?
 
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