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[chuckddd]

I'd gladly take Bush on our team. He'd make a good replacement for Chester Taylor, at Chester Taylor money.

Really? I'd keep Taylor. He's a far superior all around back. If AD gets hurt, you'd much rather have him than Bush.

 

[eznark]

Yeah but Reggie flexing his biceps is something Aaron Rodgers simply couldn't emulate.

Ryu > RoidFlex

Whoops, wrong GIF...oh well

 

[Slo]

Ryu > RoidFlex

Whoops, wrong GIF...oh well

:lol Fuck you eznark.

 

[Slo]

Really? I'd keep Taylor. He's a far superior all around back. If AD gets hurt, you'd much rather have him than Bush.

You're right, Chester is a competent every down back, but I'm not sure he wants to stay.

 

[Dirtbag]

Really? I'd keep Taylor. He's a far superior all around back. If AD gets hurt, you'd much rather have him than Bush.

Get this every down back thing out of your heads.
I'm not saying that at all. In fact, in the modern NFL, every down backs are extremely rare and not nearly as important. Just look at fantasy football and the emphasis on passing now if you really don't believe me.
For the right price, Reggie Bush is one of the best #2's out there because of how versatile he is and how difficult he is to gameplan around.

You sure are well versed in it, no argument there.

You notice how no one backs you up.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Get this every down back thing out of your heads.
Just look at fantasy football

You sure are well versed in it, no argument there.

 

[Slo]

Get this every down back thing out of your heads.
I'm not saying that at all. In fact, in the modern NFL, every down backs are extremely rare and not nearly as important. Just look at fantasy football and the emphasis on passing now if you really don't believe me.

He was specifically talking about whether he'd rather have Chester or Reggie on the Vikes. Chester is a better backup to AD and can act as a 3rd down back too.

 

[Dirtbag]

He was specifically talking about whether he'd rather have Chester or Reggie on the Vikes. Chester is a better backup to AD and can act as a 3rd down back too.

Ah I gotcha.
The vikings are a rare bird in that they already have some good varied options at RB and also have a monster return guy in Harvin. But not so with most of the other teams out there.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

He was specifically talking about whether he'd rather have Chester or Reggie on the Vikes. Chester is a better backup to AD and can act as a 3rd down back too.

But can Chester break a long run after the catch followed by pointing back and taunting Urlacher and subsequently somersaulting into the endzone with a hangtime of 6 seconds all resulting in a playoff loss????

 

[Dirtbag]

I wonder what kind of SB MVP money Reggie will expect next year....
that would be about the funniest outcome to this whole thing.

 

[Zeke]

Really? I'd keep Taylor. He's a far superior all around back. If AD gets hurt, you'd much rather have him than Bush.

agreed Taylor is pretty beastly if given the choice between Bush and Taylor I would pick Taylor hands down.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

You notice how no one backs you up.

I missed this gem.

This whole part of this thread was people defending your completey logical and unbiased "thoughts" so yeah, you got me there.

You could spin a 9 yard loss into a human highlight film moment.

Not with any success of course but as long as it all makes you feel happy.

 

[bionic77]

Saints fans fuck the haters of teams who aren't in the Superbowl.

Greatness is within your grasp and if Brees and co. come up Ben on Sunday you could have your own forever highlight like this one come Monday morning.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/pittsburgh-steelers/09000d5d80e9419d/Anatomy-of-a-Play-Holmes-earns-MVP

 

[chuckddd]

I wonder what kind of SB MVP money Reggie will expect next year....
that would be about the funniest outcome to this whole thing.

I think the funniest outcome would be Bush marrying Kim and crushing all of your dreams.
The knob slobbering is getting unbearable.

Is that a wet spot on Reggie's shorts? Dirtbag, he's got a game to play!

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

Huh, I didn't know Garçon went to Mount Union. I lived only about 20 minutes away from their campus. Good for him.

 

[Dirtbag]

I missed this gem.

This whole part of this thread was people defending your completey logical and unbiased "thoughts" so yeah, you got me there.

You could spin a 9 yard loss into a human highlight film moment.

Not with any success of course but as long as it all makes you feel happy.

I'm not talking about the Reggie Bush discussion... I'm talking about your juvenile forum posting 101 tactics by posting an exaggeration of my stance then arguing against, or cutting half of my post out of a response twisting my point. Save that shit for other threads, you don't need to invent reasons to disagree in here.

 

[BobDylan]

never gets old

 

[Dirtbag]

^I love gifs like that where you can see the home crowd explode for a split second

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I'm not talking about the Reggie Bush discussion... I'm talking about your juvenile forum posting 101 tactics by posting an exaggeration of my stance then arguing against, or cutting half of my post out of a response twisting my point. Save that shit for other threads, you don't need to invent reasons to disagree in here.

All you have said(besides calling me a terrible poster over simple disagreements with colorful football lingo) and done is act like the Saints are dominant in this category and this one and this one and this one where facts don't at all support these claims as others have pointed out(if you care so much what others on computers think and say).

I might have exaggerated your claims once but it was for effect and not far from the truth(yours seems different than people without black and gold tinted glasses).

It's one thing to be positive about your team, it's another thing to be completely off base with reality in this fandom(or dumb) and that's what you exemplify post after post after post.

After all, I never said it wouldn't be a close Super Bowl(I called it even), I just hate irrational people that can't even accept they are that way when even called on it.

As far as my "selective" quoting of you(it's not for any motives), you should take your own advice with that one as you go from Reggie Bush is a great player, unmatchable physical ability in the NFL all the way to "any team would love to have him as a backup for 5$ a year".

Not your quotes but mine(I know how much it hurts your feelings that while you basically went there, you didn't exactly).

Sometimes you just have to admit you are way off base and swallow your pride but then Destiny is a schlong that not many can take all the way down.

 

[Slo]

When I see that gif, I hear Paul Allen's soul die.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Please be right:

"This much I'm sure of, from reading him and chatting off the record with someone else: He's going to play. I'll be shocked if he doesn't."

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Please be right:

"This much I'm sure of, from reading him and chatting off the record with someone else: He's going to play. I'll be shocked if he doesn't."

Not related but could you believe that team(forgot) recently that left Freeney unblocked TWICE in one game???

 

[Slo]

This is starting to get too personal.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

This is starting to get too personal.

True dat, you all can have at him(in good fun then), I'll just pretend he doesn't exist.

 

[Anton Sugar]

This is starting to get too personal.

REGGIE BUSH CAN SQUAT 500

 

[yankeehater]

Tommy Lawlor at scoutsnotebook.com has a great write up of why the Eagles should trade Mcnabb. Link. I just hope that they do it sooner rather then later. They need to get all the picks they can so they can trade up to number 1.

 

[Dirtbag]

Tommy Lawlor at scoutsnotebook.com has a great write up of why the Eagles should trade Mcnabb. Link. I just hope that they do it sooner rather then later. They need to get all the picks they can so they can trade up to number 1.

Eagles aren't getting Suh,
dude's going to St.Louis or Detroit at worst.
St.Louis is more then just a QB away from a season, I don't see how you pass on that freak.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

They need to get all the picks they can so they can trade up to number 1.

And select whom????

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

We're not going to make it to the Superbowl are we?

 

[Striker]

Tommy Lawlor at scoutsnotebook.com has a great write up of why the Eagles should trade Mcnabb. Link. I just hope that they do it sooner rather then later. They need to get all the picks they can so they can trade up to number 1.

Joke post?

 

[Dirtbag]

We're not going to make it to the Superbowl are we?

I said the same thing for so long.

 

[yankeehater]

And select whom????

Suh he is the only player in the draft this yeear. Hell I would consider almost pulling a Ditka to get him. Oh and dirtbag the fact that the Rams need so much help is why they wont take Suh. Everything I have heard on ESPN and the NFL network is that the Rams want to trade down.

 

[Dirtbag]

Suh he is the only player in the draft this yeear. Hell I would consider almost pulling a Ditka to get him. Oh and dirtbag the fact that the Rams need so much help is why they wont take Suh. Everything I have heard on ESPN and the NFL network is that the Rams want to trade down.

He'll probably bust cause everyone is saying this, but Suh might be a once in a decade player. I don't see how you pass on him.
As a Saints fan, the Ditka trade hurt us for a long time. Never say such things

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Suh he is the only player in the draft this yeear.

Only consensus hyped player maybe.

The draft class of a few years ago(I think) was supposed to be weak and a ton of great productive players came out of it so you never know.

Then again, when some mock drafts have Jimmy Clausen going number one, I am not sure this years' is all that promising.

 

[chuckddd]

Suh he is the only player in the draft this yeear. Hell I would consider almost pulling a Ditka to get him. Oh and dirtbag the fact that the Rams need so much help is why they wont take Suh. Everything I have heard on ESPN and the NFL network is that the Rams want to trade down.

It's nigh impossible to trade down right now with the rookie pay scale. Don't worry, it'll all be fixed after the 2011 lockout.

 

[yankeehater]

Only consensus hyped player maybe.

The draft class of a few years ago(I think) was supposed to be weak and a ton of great productive players came out of it so you never know.

Then again, when some mock drafts have Jimmy Clausen going number one, I am not sure this years' is all that promising.

I watch a ton of college football, and the senior bowl, and such, and for the life of me I cant remember a draft so devoid of impact players. There might be a bunch of guys that develop into great players down the road, but I dont see anyone but Suh stepping in right away and making plays.

It's nigh impossible to trade down right now with the rookie pay scale. Don't worry, it'll all be fixed after the 2011 lockout.

There was no rookie cap last year and yet teams still made trades in the first round, why would this year be aby different? I would think that the fact that this year is going to be uncapped would make teams more likely to trade up for big money rookies.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I watch a ton of college football, and the senior bowl, and such, and for the life of me I cant remember a draft so devoid of impact players. There might be a bunch of guys that develop into great players down the road, but I dont see anyone but Suh stepping in right away and making plays.

That's possible of course but then on the flipside, there are "can't miss" players like Glen Dorsey that really don't do much.

Unless he has and I just am mistaken or haven't noticed.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Eagles hire Jauron as assistant.

 

[yankeehater]

Did you not see the discusion we had about that? The guy was a terrible head coach, but hopefully he will be a good DB coach.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

If you haven't been following the labor situation at all, NFL/NFLPA labor situation in a nutshell:

We'll likely see an uncapped 2010 season, and if no new CBA is figured out before March 2011 a lockout is highly likely. At the very least, I do hope some sort of rookie salary cap system is agreed upon.

What's on the line?

The owners and players have until March 5 to hammer out a new collective bargaining agreement, essentially the off-field rule book for an $8 billion industry. If they do not reach new terms, a host of provisos will be triggered.

Most significantly, the 2010 season will be played without a salary cap or floor, allowing teams to spend as much or as little as they wish. Two weeks ago, New York Giants owner John Mara indicated that an uncapped season appeared unavoidable. If a new CBA isn't struck by March 2011, a lockout would be highly probable.


How did we get here?

The players got the upper hand on the owners in 2006, the last time they hashed out a CBA. The players were able to renegotiate what revenues were considered a part of the financial pie, from which they would receive about 60 percent.

The salary cap skyrocketed from $80 million per team in 2005 to $102 million the next year. In each subsequent season, the cap climbed to about $109 million, $116 million and $128 million for the 2009 season. The salary floor -- the amount of money teams are forced to spend -- was $112 million this season, or $32 million more than the highest ceiling under the previous CBA. By doing so, the owners froze the percentage of revenues dedicated to player costs at 57.5 percent.

In 2008, the owners voted unanimously to exercise a clause that allowed either side to opt out of the CBA one or two years early.


What does the league want?

The owners' objective is to retain more revenues, because they're assuming virtually all of the risk in this business venture. Their mission statement is that they want to provide long-term stability and growth opportunities, but their margins are thinning because of the U.S. economy. Sponsorship dollars are scarcer. There were 22 blackouts this season, up from nine in 2008. Money has been sunk into stadiums and practice facilities.

At the top of the league's wish list is an 18 percent rollback in salaries and a rookie salary cap that would redirect money to proven talent rather than players who might not have what it takes. Another way for the owners to grow the revenue pie would be expanding the regular season to 18 games.


What does the NFL Players Association want?

Maintaining the status quo would be just fine with the players.


What would an uncapped year mean in 2010?

It sounds like an uncapped year would favor the players, because it gives the impression that freewheeling owners would start throwing money around in their quest for a Super Bowl title. But the uncapped year is a bit of a misnomer. It's true there wouldn't be a salary cap. Deep-pocketed teams such as the Dallas Cowboys, Washington Redskins and New England Patriots could spend as much as they want. But in reality there would be no financial limitations at all. Teams would have no salary floor to maintain, although minimum individual player salaries still would need to be met. The salary floor for 2009 was about $108 million.


How would the uncapped year affect free agency for the upcoming season?

These changes would be unfavorable for the players. The requirement to be eligible for unrestricted free agency would jump from four years to six. Rather than being allowed to hit the open market, 212 players would be restricted free agents instead. Teams have the right of first refusal on restricted free agents and would receive draft compensation if they chose not to match the offer.

Some of the bigger names who would have been unrestricted but would not be in an uncapped year include Denver Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall and outside linebacker Elvis Dumervil, San Diego Chargers receiver Vincent Jackson and linebacker Shawne Merriman, Houston Texans linebacker DeMeco Ryans and Cowboys receiver Miles Austin.


How would an uncapped year affect franchise and transition tags?

Teams could further limit free agency because, in an uncapped season, they may place an extra transition tag on a player. Normally, a team can place one franchise tag or one transition tag on a player each offseason. In an uncapped year, they can place franchise and transition tags or two transition tags on players.

A franchise tag is a guaranteed one-year contract offer that pays a player a salary that averages the five highest-paid at his position, or 120 percent of the tagged player's previous salary. If the player is allowed to negotiate with other teams and reaches an agreement the original team declines to match, the player's new team must fork over two first-round draft choices as compensation.

A transition tag averages the 10 highest-paid at his position. Other teams can sign a transition player to an offer sheet. The original club has the right of first refusal, but if it declines to match, it receives no draft compensation.


What other changes would there be when it comes to player acquisitions?

An interesting quirk to the uncapped season is what's being called the "Final Eight Plan," which pertains only to the teams that reached the divisional playoffs. These teams would face added constraints for free agency, and the four teams that reached the conference title games would be even more limited.

In essence, none of the eight (Colts, Baltimore Ravens, New York Jets, Chargers, Saints, Arizona Cardinals, Minnesota Vikings and Cowboys) would be able to sign an unrestricted free agent until they lost one, and the salaries of the incoming and outgoing players must be similar.

The four teams that lost in the divisional round (Ravens, Chargers, Cardinals and Cowboys) would be permitted to sign one unrestricted free agent for as much as $5.5 million in his first season and an unlimited number of unrestricted free agents who can make no more than $3.7 million in the first seasons of their contracts.

 

[yankeehater]

What free agent would sign for less then 3.7 million in his first year? The one good thing to come out of the Eagles losing in the first round is that they can still try to sign Peppers if the Panthers dont franchise tag him. I am really starting to lose hope of their being a 2011 season. Would the owners be able to bring in scab players if they lock the players out? I dont think I could go a whole year without football.

 

[Rorschach]

Do you know what smokescreen means?
Got nothing to do with praying or hoping for injuries.

Of course I know what it means, numbnuts. Smokescreens can work both ways. Either it's a smokescreen and he's really injured or the article about him being good enough to play is a smokescreen so that they have to gameplan for him. It works both ways, you smug retard.

 

[Dirtbag]

Of course I know what it means, numbnuts. Smokescreens can work both ways. Either it's a smokescreen and he's really injured or the article about him being good enough to play is a smokescreen so that they have to gameplan for him. It works both ways, you smug retard.

Then I have no idea what your response had to do with mine. Maybe you can explain how my response of "smokescreen" warranted "praying to the same God for injuries" because clearly I'm not getting something here. jerk

 

[eznark]

I admit it, I am Lukawski

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/packers_fan_announces_he_will?utm_source=videoembed

 

[Zeke]

Of course I know what it means, numbnuts. Smokescreens can work both ways. Either it's a smokescreen and he's really injured or the article about him being good enough to play is a smokescreen so that they have to gameplan for him. It works both ways, you smug retard.

Rors is spiting venom tonight :lol

 

[talisayNon]

Suh he is the only player in the draft this yeear.

:lol

 

[yankeehater]

Who do you think are the impact players in this years draft? I dont see how my comment was funny at all. This years draft is horrible in terms of QB's and WR, which are the 2 biggest positions now in the NFL. I dont see any cant miss players at any other positions really, fuck people are saying that Taylor Mays is the second best safety in this draft, so that shows you how bad of a safety draft it is. Draft experts were hyping the guard from Idaho before the senior bowl, and he is fucking terrible. He will be out of the league in a few years. If the Eagles cant trade up to number 1, they should trade picks for next year and hope better players come out.

 

[jakncoke]

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=RUSHING&conference=null&season=2009&seasonType=POST&d-447263-s=RUSHING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1

EDIT: Post-season stats, my bad.

5.6 yards per carry was 2009 tied with Chris Johnson. Sorry I fucked that up

358>>>>70

 

[oneHeero]

Of course I know what it means, numbnuts. Smokescreens can work both ways. Either it's a smokescreen and he's really injured or the article about him being good enough to play is a smokescreen so that they have to gameplan for him. It works both ways, you smug retard.

:lol :lol :lol

All you have said(besides calling me a terrible poster over simple disagreements with colorful football lingo) and done is act like the Saints are dominant in this category and this one and this one and this one where facts don't at all support these claims as others have pointed out(if you care so much what others on computers think and say).

I might have exaggerated your claims once but it was for effect and not far from the truth(yours seems different than people without black and gold tinted glasses).

It's one thing to be positive about your team, it's another thing to be completely off base with reality in this fandom(or dumb) and that's what you exemplify post after post after post.

After all, I never said it wouldn't be a close Super Bowl(I called it even), I just hate irrational people that can't even accept they are that way when even called on it.

As far as my "selective" quoting of you(it's not for any motives), you should take your own advice with that one as you go from Reggie Bush is a great player, unmatchable physical ability in the NFL all the way to "any team would love to have him as a backup for 5$ a year".

Not your quotes but mine(I know how much it hurts your feelings that while you basically went there, you didn't exactly).

Sometimes you just have to admit you are way off base and swallow your pride but then Destiny is a schlong that not many can take all the way down.

Couldnt have said it better.

Although I hate the lack of media backing the Saints. They have such a good chance to win as well. I'm going for the Colts but I wont be surprised if the Saints win. It wouldnt b a upset or anything, seeing as its the #2 team in the NFL... Now if it was some low seed team, than you can go hysterical w/ "I told you so" but its the #2 team.

 

[Jonm1010]

All you have said(besides calling me a terrible poster over simple disagreements with colorful football lingo) and done is act like the Saints are dominant in this category and this one and this one and this one where facts don't at all support these claims as others have pointed out(if you care so much what others on computers think and say).

I might have exaggerated your claims once but it was for effect and not far from the truth(yours seems different than people without black and gold tinted glasses).

It's one thing to be positive about your team, it's another thing to be completely off base with reality in this fandom(or dumb) and that's what you exemplify post after post after post.

After all, I never said it wouldn't be a close Super Bowl(I called it even), I just hate irrational people that can't even accept they are that way when even called on it.

As far as my "selective" quoting of you(it's not for any motives), you should take your own advice with that one as you go from Reggie Bush is a great player, unmatchable physical ability in the NFL all the way to "any team would love to have him as a backup for 5$ a year".

Not your quotes but mine(I know how much it hurts your feelings that while you basically went there, you didn't exactly).

Sometimes you just have to admit you are way off base and swallow your pride but then Destiny is a schlong that not many can take all the way down.

Dude...... Stop....... Just stop.... Every argument on this page you have made is one annoying strawman after another...... Seriously it's beyond annoying.

You know how there's those people you try and talk to but everything you say they take it, twist it around, misconstrue it, exaggerate your position and then argue the exaggerration as if you actually took the position of that exaggerration? Yeah?!? I mean it's about the most annoying type of conversation you can possibly have...... Well that's what the conversations I'm reading that your involved in this last page come off as.