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Official Terminator 4 Thread of Potential Suckage

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kame-sennin said:
Yea, they ruined the line. First of all, does Kyle Reese just say that to everyone he meets? They're really taking the relevance out of it. When he said it in the first movie it had impact because he was trying to illustrate the severity of the situation to Sarah. The question is almost a test of someone's character and their willingness to survive - which is a lot different than the typical hero introduction of "I'm here to rescue you!".

I have to admit though, that I liked everything else I saw. The T-600 was really well done. The fact that it had rubber skin but looked human from a distance really fit with continuity without making Skynet look stupid. And the glowing eyes plus mini-gun were an awesome reference to the future scene from the first movie.
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Not everything shown in trailers/clip make it to the final movie and not every cut is shown in the trailer/clips. The dialogue might stay but the impact might change and vice versa.
 
Seriously, stop using come with me if you want to live, it only worked for Arnold. Everybody else who says it sounds like a complete jerkoff.

That being said, the movie does seem to be shaping up nicely.
 
kurahadol said:
Seriously, stop using come with me if you want to live, it only worked for Arnold. Everybody else who says it sounds like a complete jerkoff.

That being said, the movie does seem to be shaping up nicely.
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Worked when Kyle Reese said it in T1. What these fuckers don't understand is that the lines of Terminator films are said in context of what is happening on screen. The lines aren't supposed to have their own little moments catered around them.
 
Surprisingly, there is a lot of awesome in that new video.

I love the realistic post-nuclear setting. I was originally shocked to see how different the world would look from the visions of the future from T1 and T2, but after hearing the explanation I really like what they're doing.

All of the Robot designs look great as well. The definitely seem to have a Bayformers feel though.

Still, I will never forgive them for the Kyle Reese casting. Never forget.
 
I'm pleasantly surprised. It will probably still be a clusterfuck, but at least it will be a pretty one like Transformers.
 
Motorbike terminators? Wtf? I thought the flying HK's tracked humans down. Why do they need those crappy things? It seems like some lame transformer. The big one looks good but again, very transformer-ish.

It looks decent though.
 
There's a new feature up on IGN Movies about Terminator Salvation. They saw exclusive footage and interviewed McG. The interview definitely gave me some confidence in the film. He mentions that when he approached Christian Bale about playing John Connor, he told him to fuck off, and unless the story of the film was about character development, and not explosions he wouldn't do it. After working on the script with Jonah Nolan, Bale signed on. That's good news if you ask me.
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Why would a director give up that kind of specific voluntarily?:lol
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Well, it is an early cut ... so its actually promising. Stating an early cut already looks 'amazing' to someone of Bale's credentials is just asking for incoming pain.



Scullibundo said:
It doesn't feel like as much of a lie then. He may have learnt his lesson about lying to fans when James Cameron said he gave T4 no blessing - outing McG's claims that he had as bullshit.
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Oh boy. When did that happen? :\
 
ToyMachine228 said:
He mentions that when he approached Christian Bale about playing John Connor, he told him to fuck off, and unless the story of the film was about character development, and not explosions he wouldn't do it.
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Christian Bale man-crush continues to grow...
 
Nore said:
Christian Bale man-crush continues to grow...
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It's not a man crush, it's an actor who usually chooses good parts, ensuring that they wrote a good movie before he signed on. And he did eventually sign on. Which means they really worked to make it a good movie, not just a generic action movie set in the Terminator universe.
 
Onix said:
Oh boy. When did that happen? :\
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It doesn't really mean anything. Cameron wasn't given the screenplay in the first place and so he couldn't give his blessing (he also mentioned he has no idea what giving his blessing actually means).
 
ToyMachine228 said:
It's not a man crush, it's an actor who usually chooses good parts, ensuring that they wrote a good movie before he signed on. And he did eventually sign on. Which means they really worked to make it a good movie, not just a generic action movie set in the Terminator universe.
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No, no good sir. MY Christian Bale mancrush continues to grow...
 
i'm sure this'll be good and whatnot, but i'm starting to think it would've been better to've made T3 the "future war" movie and end it there.

i don't doubt McG can could pull it off but rather if he has the scope for a full trilogy
 
http://www.totalfilm.com/features/the-ending-posted-on-ain-t-it-cool-news-is-a-fake#content

Remember the leaked ending that hit Ain’t It Cool News five months ago? The one that claimed the climax would see John Connor die, only to be resurrected as a robot?

It isn’t the ending (thank goodness) but the geeks didn't pluck it from the clear blue Skynet, either. “That is not the ending. John Connor is not the machine. We did discuss that idea, but that is not the ending, I can say that right now.”
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When shots of Arnie hanging out on the Salvation set were shoved into all of our computers, the internet exploded with rumour. Was Schwarzenegger there to film a cameo? Give his blessing? Try and get a cut of the profits?

Well, we’d bet our Terminator 2 action figure collection that we know the real reason. He was there to get motion captured for his all CGI debut as the T800.

“We’re trying to synthesise a human character with a CGI character and that may or may not have something to do with the T800,” McG told us with a smile.

The process isn’t without its problems, though. McG isn’t happy with ILM’s work so far... “At the moment it’s not good enough,” he said. “And we’re running out of time.”
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If they can take the Arnie CG and just insert him into every action movie from now until the end of time, I think we'll pull through this thing called "humanity" a-okay.
 
that bit at the end with the goliath firing that plasma cannon reminded me of Transformers. didn't seem much weight to its movements.
 
Darklord said:
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Ehm, apart from some of the dodgy yellow tinted flashback stuff, that was a very good movie.

'It's too bad you got little bitch feet'.
 
This is supposed to be before Skynet invent the T800. You're telling me that before that advance - before they had flying HKs with turrets; that they had 20 story robots with missiles roaming around? OH COME ON! Just one of new 8 Terminators. Don't get me started on the motorbike Terminators. This isn't supposed to be that sort of movie.
 
*shrug* it's altered future from the ones the Terminators were sent from. I've never put much stock into the Terminator chronology anyways.
 
Scullibundo said:
This is supposed to be before Skynet invent the T800. You're telling me that before that advance - before they had flying HKs with turrets; that they had 20 story robots with missiles roaming around? OH COME ON! Just one of new 8 Terminators. Don't get me started on the motorbike Terminators. This isn't supposed to be that sort of movie.
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I agree. needs more pie tins.
 
Scullibundo said:
This is supposed to be before Skynet invent the T800. You're telling me that before that advance - before they had flying HKs with turrets; that they had 20 story robots with missiles roaming around? OH COME ON! Just one of new 8 Terminators. Don't get me started on the motorbike Terminators. This isn't supposed to be that sort of movie.
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I think it kinda makes sense. Isn't the T800 the first one to have living tissue over a cybernetic endoskeleton? This breakthrough allowed Skynet to shift its strategy. The T800 was designed to be sent back in time, blend in, perform recon, and asassinate.

This is a humans vs. machines war. It would make sense that before this breakthrough (i.e., a Terminator that looks human, acts human) Skynet built huge machines loaded up to destroy shit and take out enemy positions.
 
Scullibundo said:
This is supposed to be before Skynet invent the T800. You're telling me that before that advance - before they had flying HKs with turrets; that they had 20 story robots with missiles roaming around? OH COME ON! Just one of new 8 Terminators. Don't get me started on the motorbike Terminators. This isn't supposed to be that sort of movie.
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The motorbikes are stupid, I'll give you that, but they're not incredibly advanced. What's harder to create: a giant death robot with mounted weapons, or a machine that is able to almost perfectly mimic a human being?

In T3 they already had flying/hovering machines, and we've seen them in the flash-forward scenes in the past films already. It makes perfect sense for them be building these type of Terminators before they try and replicate realistic human ones, which are far harder to do.

Fakedit: Beaten :lol
 
The last two posts where exactly what I was gonna post as well.

But I didn't because I don't know much about Terminator and didn't want to get into an arguement.
 
Scullibundo said:
This is supposed to be before Skynet invent the T800. You're telling me that before that advance - before they had flying HKs with turrets; that they had 20 story robots with missiles roaming around? OH COME ON! Just one of new 8 Terminators. Don't get me started on the motorbike Terminators. This isn't supposed to be that sort of movie.
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I guess you missed the different time lines and alternate futures in the Terminator franchise?
 
RSTEIN said:
I think it kinda makes sense. Isn't the T800 the first one to have living tissue of a cybernetic endoskeleton? This breakthrough allowed Skynet to shift its strategy. The T800 was designed to be sent back in time, blend in, perform recon, and asassinate.

This is a humans vs. machines war. It would make sense that before this breakthrough (i.e., a Terminator that looks human, acts human) Skynet built huge machines loaded up to destroy shit and take out enemy positions.
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There were Terminators that looked and acted human prior to the T800 that were wrapped in a rubber body suit however they were easy to spot. Kyle explained this in the first movie.
 
Lathentar said:
There were Terminators that looked and acted human prior to the T800 that were wrapped in a rubber body suit however they were easy to spot. Kyle explained this in the first movie.
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Yeah, that's what I mean. Before living tissue it was (or looked like) a rubber suit. What I'm saying is that if espionage, covert ops, etc. isn't an option well then you better build the biggest fucking machines carrying the biggest fucking weapons.
 
Weenerz said:
Have to say it doesn't look as shitty as I thought it would. Maybe Christian Bale did save this franchise.
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IF he saves Terminator, that's 2 franchises saved under his belt in less than 5 years. What's next, The Matrix 4?!
 
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