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Official UFC 68: Uprising (Couture vs. Sylvia) Discussion Thread

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Unbelievable main event. UFC's only going to get more popular from here, and Crocop vs Couture will do incredible numbers for them.

**** Sylvia. He was pretty much exposed in his last couple of fights, but Couture ended up fully embarrassing him.
 
Asbel said:
Fact is, Crocop can end the fight at nearly any moment standing, which would mean any advantage Couture could gather early on, would all be in vain.

Couture has a few advantages in this fight but whether or not he will be able to capitalize on them is another story. We know Crocop is still new to cage tactics. You can't sprawl next to the cage, but with Crocop's great lateral movements, he will likely always have room to sprawl. However, what Randy can do after a sprawl is move from a double leg to a single leg which he did very well against Sylvia. Randy did use a belly-to-belly (no trips) takedown on Sylvia, although this requires a clinch which Crocop is sure to push away.

Now the takedown is the hardest part and may not even happen. But if Randy can take it to the ground, he has a few more advantages here. Oblivously, Crocop is not used to being stuck up against the fence. And although Crocop is a better striker than Chuck, he doesn't have Chuck's wrestling experience which helps him to get back on his feet. I can't recall Crocop being on his back since the Fedor fight (where he gassed and was content to stay on his back) so I can't say how well Crocop is at getting back up from his back .

As for the striking game, Crocop was caught with the overhand right before so he's wise to them. I did like that Randy didn't constantly chase down Tim, at least not the way he used to stalk Chuck. Randy jumped in and jumped out and didn't stay in the pocket unless he was going to clinch.

I agree that Randy could win 4 rounds on the score cards only to get that brutal left leg bounced of his melon that ends the fight in seconds. The reason i said Cro Cop is arguably a better striker then Chuck is because Chuck's takedown defense is legendary and therefore makes you absolutely have to stand with him. You simply cannot take Chuck down at will. To me you can argue that makes his striking just as dangerous. How is Cro Cop's takedown defense compared to Chuck's? How is it in a cage? If Randy can get through the insane strikes or formulate a game plan that gets him too close to Cro Cop maybe he can destroy him on the ground. The cage is a whole different beast and like you said Cro Cop won't be able to get to his feet against Randy realistically.
 
How is Cro Cop's takedown defense compared to Chuck's?

Hard to say. I've seen about 15 of Cro Cops matches and the only person to take him down in any of them was Fedor the best fighter in the world.
 
Brian Fellows said:
Hard to say. I've seen about 15 of Cro Cops matches and the only person to take him down in any of them was Fedor the best fighter in the world.

That's what i meant. I was asking rhetorically. It is very hard to tell.
 
Brian Fellows said:
Hard to say. I've seen about 15 of Cro Cops matches and the only person to take him down in any of them was Fedor the best fighter in the world.

Early in his career he was taken down by Fujita, Sakuraba, and even Wanderlei Silva.

I'd say that Crocop has the best sprawl/double leg defense in all of MMA, but that Chuck's overall wrestling credentials are better, such as defending from the clinch.
 
NME said:
He has pneumonia and, as you can imagine, is taking medication to make it through his "300" promotional tour.

yeah, that or he was out drunk and partying past three in the morning and came into the interview still wasted.
 
Just watched it on TV. That was a great show, especially with the last match. It's probably the best PPV in recent memory actually
 
Huge props to Couture for winning the fight at his age and with that significant of a height/weight difference. He's an impressive competitor.

As for Mirko, I'd be incredibly surprised if he lost to Randy. Anything can happen, though...hell, shades of mirko/randleman 1 in that couture/sylvia opening minute, and couture did have that outstriking victory against liddell back in the day. Doesn't seem very likely to me though, or as joe rogan said about Randy in response to the question, "................congratulations..."
 
Boogie said:
yeah, that or he was out drunk and partying past three in the morning and came into the interview still wasted.


Looking at his past, I am thinking this is the case.
 
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