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Official UFC 97 Redemption Thread
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BamYouHaveAids
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No, he should stand outside the pocket with a opponent that has no standup skills to speak of and throw infrequent leg kicks while feinting and showboating.charsace said:
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
Anderson Silva= Tim Sylvia 2.0 CONFIRMED!
That was horrible. I've never seen a champion so afraid of being in someone else's guard before.
Seriously UFC needs to adopt some pride rules. Starting with the frigging yellow cards. Both of them should have been 3rd yellow carded by the mid 5th and gotten no purse at all.
That was horrible. I've never seen a champion so afraid of being in someone else's guard before.
Seriously UFC needs to adopt some pride rules. Starting with the frigging yellow cards. Both of them should have been 3rd yellow carded by the mid 5th and gotten no purse at all.
Grecco said:
It makes you question if this is where the fight game is headed? Are guys going to wait to just counterpunch for fear of opening themselves up by being aggressive? If that's the trend in MMA they better start making the fights 7 rounds for title fights and 5 rounds for non title fights. Sounds like the yellow cards, soccer kicks, stomps, and knees to the head of a downed opponent might not be a bad idea either to keep the game a little more offensive minded.
The Faceless Master
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thales seemed to be well enough to flop, and he didn't look gassed, how can you say he wasn't okay enough to submit?Big-E said:
The Faceless Master said:
Because when they were on the ground for the few times they were there, Silva was never threatened and did actual damage, the only damage in the fight? I am not saying that he should just flop on top of someone on his back but when you catch someones leg and you do nothing but stand there with it then that is fucked up and should be frowned upon.
AranhaHunter
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FUCK MOTHERFUCKING YEAH
I hope I don't get a tag for this
I was, literally, the only one going for SHOGUN in the fight, FUCK YEAH. My boy had to, calm me the fuck down as I was screaming out of the top of my lungs,,,,,,
Thales was scared, played it very safe, Anderson deserved the victory. Will poost more tomorrow after I wake up.
I hope I don't get a tag for this
I was, literally, the only one going for SHOGUN in the fight, FUCK YEAH. My boy had to, calm me the fuck down as I was screaming out of the top of my lungs,,,,,,
Thales was scared, played it very safe, Anderson deserved the victory. Will poost more tomorrow after I wake up.
The Faceless Master
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it's not that he did nothing though, he caught the leg, then thales ust FLOPPED TO THE GROUND!Big-E said:
it's not like he caught the leg, punched him in the face and did nothing, or caught the leg, swept the other leg then did nothing, he caught the leg, then thales made the directed move to the ground.
why shuld he follow thales down to the ground when thales is waiting for him?
BamYouHaveAids
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This fight was eerily similar to Cintron/Martinez.
Anderson did the smart thing not following Leities to the ground, though I could do without the stalling. My problem is what Anderson did or didn't do on his feet.
Anderson did the smart thing not following Leities to the ground, though I could do without the stalling. My problem is what Anderson did or didn't do on his feet.
Wow, I just realized that Anderson is as 'elusive' as Machida. Their sparring matches must have 3 punches per round, give or take 2. I don't blame him though, it's his title and he has the belt. It was up to Thales to take it. No guts, no glory.
Now I was actually more surprised about the fact that Shogun didn't gas out than the fact that he knocked Chuck out. If the old Shogun is back, I'm excited. Still, that fight didn't go past the 1st rd so we'll wait and see.
Now I was actually more surprised about the fact that Shogun didn't gas out than the fact that he knocked Chuck out. If the old Shogun is back, I'm excited. Still, that fight didn't go past the 1st rd so we'll wait and see.
AranhaHunter
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unomas said:
FUCK YEAH.
mackaveli said:
That is indeed true. I'm a Brazilian living in the US for over 15 years and I know some professional fighters (won't say who for the sake of keeping it unbiased but FUCK YEAH FOR UFC 97).
I'll do an OFFICIAL, with pictures, place of fight, and all other info, etc... (UFC, DREAM, STRIKEFORCE, WEC and probably minor events too, FUCK IT, every decent MMA) THREAD if I get a cool MMA tag.
Stoney Mason
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Asbel said:
If there is one common attribute about Anderson, Liddell and Machida, it's that they are all inherently counter fighters. Different kind of counter fighters but still counter fighters. It just so happens that of that group Anderson also has the best defense body movement wise.
SolidSnakex
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Big-E said:
He probably will be as they mentioned that he was disappointed in his performance in his previous match. It doesn't mean that he's going to suddenly turn into a super aggressive fighter.
Anytime Silva, Evans or Machida fight the threads always turn into people complaining about how they fight. And each time the end result of those fights is that they win, yet you wouldn't know that by the reaction from some people.
EraldoCoil
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AranhaHunter said:
i didnt get a chance to make picks but i was on the shogun war wagon for this fight. i was probably one of the few people that had shogun picked!!!
I'm declaring me and AranhaHunter the official leaders of the "Shogun War Wagon" :lol
(please note i am also a member of the sex wagon aka the yoshihrio akiyama war wagon, WAR SEXYAMA!!!)
AranhaHunter
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I'm so fucking happy to be wrong.
Congrats Shogun, Congrats Silva, Congrats Cane.
Chuck, please fucking retire, it's time, you were a legend, one of the best ever. Hang it up.
Congrats Shogun, Congrats Silva, Congrats Cane.
Chuck, please fucking retire, it's time, you were a legend, one of the best ever. Hang it up.
BamYouHaveAids
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Great athletes know being great means being a showman as much as an athlete. If every fighter adopted their techniques we would get a dozen strikes a round. They all basically hit and run like Ali, Arlovski, Sugar Ray Leonard, Bas Rutten, Benard Hopkins etc. just way more passively. Notice how many of those people I listed are known as legends and are for the most part fan favorites despite utilising the same technique? I like technique whether offensive or defensive but there is no technique in standing outside the pocket and feinting.SolidSnakex said:
I guess sitting back throwing the odd strike works if they are only concerned with winning, as opposed to building a legacy or getting bigger paychecks.
AranhaHunter
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It's a serious proposition if I get a cool tag and am able to post an avatar again, YOU GUYS WILL ALWAYS KNOW ABOUT MAJOR MMA FIGHTS (PICS, WEIGH INS, THE WHOLE NINE). Serious deal, I'm this hyped up. UFC 97 FUCK YEAH.
SolidSnakex
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BamYouHaveAids said:
Those other fighters you listed also had people that weren't afraid of them, something that Silva didn't have the luxury with in this fight.
Seriously, before this fight and the previous fight Silva had 7 straight fights that either ended in a stoppage, a KO or a submission. People seem to be quickly forgetting this. It's not his fault that he got a dud thrown at him.
EraldoCoil
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AranhaHunter said:
lest we forget who created the Strikeforce thread......*nudge, nudge*
SolidSnakex said:
You are only as good as your last fight and Silva has now had two stinkers and one that is so bad, it is probably the worst fight ever in the UFC. He is the supposed to be the top pound for pound fighter in the world and he responds to fans by giving fights that have fans wanting to get their money back.
NinjaCodah
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Silva needs to fight at 205. Enough of this bullshit weight class. The man walks a 220lb for fucks sake. The only thing Silva has shown so far is that he can destroy much smaller guys who rush into his punches and knees. Sure, i can walk into a school and start beating up a whole class full of kids as well - would that make me a P4P god? Man up Anderson, go fight people your own size!
I didn't mind Leites' gameplan for the first 3 rounds. I thought he actually had something in mind, only it turned out he didn't.
I didn't mind Leites' gameplan for the first 3 rounds. I thought he actually had something in mind, only it turned out he didn't.
BamYouHaveAids
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All of them with the exception of Arlovski had opponents that were afraid of them. They just destoryed them so quickly you probably forgot the match ups, which should have been the case here.SolidSnakex said:
:lol I really doubt he cuts 35 pounds a bout. Didn't he weigh in at 203 in his light heavy fight? He probably walks around at somewhere around 200.NinjaCodah said:
AranhaHunter
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EraldoCoil said:
Fuck yeah, coincidentally (or not), I have the guy in your avatar winning the UFC LHW Championship belt on May 23rd.
EraldoCoil
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BamYouHaveAids said:
anderson walks at around 215-217
and Machida will be the new LHW champ after 98. i been riding the Machida train since the beginning and i'm finally glad that he's getting his shot
NinjaCodah
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He weighed in at 183lb for this fight. He cuts weight like it's butter, but he's fucken huge. I'm sure he could take a piss and lose 5 pounds. Really, he's somewhere between 215 and 220.BamYouHaveAids said:
AranhaHunter
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EraldoCoil said:anderson walks at around 215-217
and Machida will be the new LHW champ after 98. i been riding the Machida train since the beginning and i'm finally glad that he's getting his shot
Yes, Machida is too elusive for Evans, Evans has heavier hands, but Machida is a better striker and better on the ground.
Evans has been overrated for awhile, Machida has been underrated for awhile.
Either way, I'll do the UFC 98 thread, I just wish a mod would see that I was serious about being the MMA GAF thread guy........ :/
AranhaHunter
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NinjaCodah said:
For the record (and I won't say who told me this), Anderson cut more than he wanted for the fight and was a little dehydrated and Shogun cut off just about 10 pounds for this fight. He usually weighs 230 but he wanted to be light for this fight so he wouldn't gas if the fight went the distance. From what I'm told, he was weighing about 215 before he got in the sauna.
EraldoCoil
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AranhaHunter said:
what about the other events? like strikeforce, sengoku, shooto, dream etc....??? i'd love to split the threads up and get involved. or collaborate on upcoming UFC events? i'd love to do a mega thread for 100 so let me know if you wanna work together on that one.
AranhaHunter
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EraldoCoil said:
I'll do EVERY SINGLE EVENT (with pics, info, the whole nine) - besides minor events - if a mod gives me a cool tag and lets me choose my avatar again, THAT'S A PROMISE. You guys won't have to worry about MMA OFFICIAL threads again.
AranhaHunter
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Sinatar said:
Gotcha, won't post about it again. I'm still hyped though. It was a great event. Can you blame me? I'm hoarse right now.
AranhaHunter
Banned
With all that said though, I'm a little disappointed in Leites, you gotta take it to the champ and he didn't, anyone else wonder if he was just contend being in there and taking the champ to a decision?
anderson silva should be embaressed with his performance tonight, for a guy who is supposedly the "number 1 p4p king" that was a joke
would bj penn, GSP, fedor, miguel torres, or any of the other top p4p fighters put together such a sorry effort in a title defense, i'm sorry but i lost a lot of respect for the spider tonight
that fight was a joke, not that leites helped make the fight exciting, but silva should be criticized heavily for his performance, calling him a p4p king is a total farce
top p4p = 1a. gsp 1b. fedor, silva is way behind them now
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also happy that shogun showed up to fight, good win for him
would bj penn, GSP, fedor, miguel torres, or any of the other top p4p fighters put together such a sorry effort in a title defense, i'm sorry but i lost a lot of respect for the spider tonight
that fight was a joke, not that leites helped make the fight exciting, but silva should be criticized heavily for his performance, calling him a p4p king is a total farce
top p4p = 1a. gsp 1b. fedor, silva is way behind them now
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also happy that shogun showed up to fight, good win for him
AranhaHunter
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Gifs from the event:
Wil post more as I find them.
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Wil post more as I find them.
my quick rundown of the fights.....
cane looked ok, but not that impressive. i would not feel to excited about picking his next fight. the fact that he is ranked #8 at 205 confuses me. whatever.
kongo v hardonk, who gives a fuck. the ufc is gonna do whatever they want to do with these guys. not gonna bother analyzing it or thinking about it.
krystof won his fight doing BASIC BASIC BASIC jiu jitsu. that was a simple ass kimura. i dont know if stann sucks, or maybe krystof is good, but a kinda cool fight to watch and i always love seeing the shit that i train work in fights.
poor chuck. not to impressed with shogun, but whatever. maybe him and cane next? blah.
WIMAN GOT ROBBED. thats my opinion at least.
i dont know how much you blame on anderson for the main event not being that good. leites flopped a lot, which i guess is what you would do against a guy that can pick you apart standing. oh well.... hopefullly the next one is better.
PEACE
cane looked ok, but not that impressive. i would not feel to excited about picking his next fight. the fact that he is ranked #8 at 205 confuses me. whatever.
kongo v hardonk, who gives a fuck. the ufc is gonna do whatever they want to do with these guys. not gonna bother analyzing it or thinking about it.
krystof won his fight doing BASIC BASIC BASIC jiu jitsu. that was a simple ass kimura. i dont know if stann sucks, or maybe krystof is good, but a kinda cool fight to watch and i always love seeing the shit that i train work in fights.
poor chuck. not to impressed with shogun, but whatever. maybe him and cane next? blah.
WIMAN GOT ROBBED. thats my opinion at least.
i dont know how much you blame on anderson for the main event not being that good. leites flopped a lot, which i guess is what you would do against a guy that can pick you apart standing. oh well.... hopefullly the next one is better.
PEACE
A little disappointed with the Silva fight. This fight and the fight against Cote were so weird. Before it seemed like Silva was more eager to finish his setups. I mean he swept the guy to the ground, did nothing. Caught his leg, the guy fell to the ground and he did nothing. He could of at least kicked his tighs more or tricked him into standing up and then punching him in the mouth as he was getting up?
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