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Just like every other time I've seen this phone (and the Zune HD for that matter), half the time when people demoing the unit try to interact with the touch screen, their touches either don't register, register wrong, or register late. This is pretty worrysome. I mean sure maybe it's early hardware/software whatever but it's been pretty consistent from the Zune HD demos to here so.. I dunno.
 
Tathanen said:
Just like every other time I've seen this phone (and the Zune HD for that matter), half the time when people demoing the unit try to interact with the touch screen, their touches either don't register, register wrong, or register late. This is pretty worrysome. I mean sure maybe it's early hardware/software whatever but it's been pretty consistent from the Zune HD demos to here so.. I dunno.
It's a prototype and WP7S won't even be done and shipped till September.

claviertekky said:
I'm sure someone at XDA can cook up something to fix that.
That's assuming WP7S includes all the necessary drivers that WM6.5 does. Pretty doubtful about that to be honest since MS is only likely to support more modern hardware, as per their stringent requirements for carriers and manufacturers.

Sidenote: Josh Topolsky needs a tan ASAP.
 
giga said:
It's a prototype and WP7S won't even be done and shipped till September.

Yes, I know. My concern is mainly that I saw these issues on the Zune HD, which makes me think they were never even fixed from there, and MS doesn't consider them a problem.
 
Tathanen said:
Just like every other time I've seen this phone (and the Zune HD for that matter), half the time when people demoing the unit try to interact with the touch screen, their touches either don't register, register wrong, or register late. This is pretty worrysome. I mean sure maybe it's early hardware/software whatever but it's been pretty consistent from the Zune HD demos to here so.. I dunno.

My Zune HD doesn't have these problems.
 
Tathanen said:
Just like every other time I've seen this phone (and the Zune HD for that matter), half the time when people demoing the unit try to interact with the touch screen, their touches either don't register, register wrong, or register late. This is pretty worrysome. I mean sure maybe it's early hardware/software whatever but it's been pretty consistent from the Zune HD demos to here so.. I dunno.
By most (all?) reports the Zune HD touch screen works very well. So I suspect it is just a result of how people use them when demoing.
 
Tathanen said:
Just like every other time I've seen this phone (and the Zune HD for that matter), half the time when people demoing the unit try to interact with the touch screen, their touches either don't register, register wrong, or register late. This is pretty worrysome. I mean sure maybe it's early hardware/software whatever but it's been pretty consistent from the Zune HD demos to here so.. I dunno.

My ZuneHD didn't do that.

Just saying.

Either way, this is prototype hardware running an OS 9 months from being released. No big deal, really.
 
Tathanen said:
Yes, I know. My concern is mainly that I saw these issues on the Zune HD, which makes me think they were never even fixed from there, and MS doesn't consider them a problem.

whenever I demo a touchscreen device to someone, and I hold it away from my face, I fuck up my touches. always

I bet that’s what happening with the stuff you’re seeing in demo videos online where the presenter is holding the thing to a camera and touching targets at an angle.

I’ve used a Zune HD and it was always very responsive. there was no obvious lag or lack of precision.
 
Well good, that is reassuring! It may indeed have simply been an effect of whatever demo units they were showing for the Zune HD, or the people using them.
 
I can confirm as an iPhone owner and thus someone who knows what an excellent touch screen is capable of that the Zune HD most definitely does not have touch screen problems like that.
 
Hey folks -

Just wanted to mention that we're collecting questions and feedback on what you'd like to see from Xbox LIVE on Windows Phone. If you have the time or interest, we'd love to hear from you - the dev team is reviewing the feedback, and just as with Xbox LIVE, we'll be taking into account in our future planning.

Best place to comment is in comments on this blog post: http://www.ozymandias.com/your-thoughts-on-xbox-live-and-windows-phone

You can also send comments to me via Twitter at Ozymandias - though I'd encourage you to also post your comment on the blog since that's the central store.

Thanks for any thoughts you might have!
 
http://blogs.msdn.com/ckindel/archi...e-new-windows-phone-developer-experience.aspx

Looks like a hint of bringing Zune's interface to WinPho7.

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Image from Engadget.
 
Anybody have a guess what that world picture is? (maybe a loaction hub?... been rumored on the phone7 forum at microsoft)

Its also possible that its just that picture of the earth on somebody's phone.
 
None blown up view:

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One thing you gotta give em credit for is the UI looks nothing like anything else on the market.
 
Other than the iPhone, none of the other phones are on their home screen. The Storm might be, not sure if it can add more icons to the home screen.
 
It'll be interesting to see what the final interface becomes closer to the end of the year/release. Really interested in finding out about apps in a couple weeks. Current iPhone user here, who also owns a Zune HD/Zune Pass because the media capabilities far exceed Apple's offering. Plus it saves a ton of battery life on my iPhone to use my Zune for all my media needs. But I love the HD's interface, breath of fresh air. So if the price is right, the service is solid, I may just jump into one of these next year.
 
PSGames said:
None blown up view:

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One thing you gotta give em credit for is the UI looks nothing like anything else on the market.

Oh Microsoft. :lol

Also apparently Microsoft's own Pink phones won't run WP7 so... yeah...
 
Andrex said:
Oh Microsoft. :lol

Also apparently Microsoft's own Pink phones won't run WP7 so... yeah...

What? You mad they didn't include Android in that picture? :lol

Pink phones are Sidekicks. Why would they run WP7?
 
PSGames said:
What? You mad they didn't include Android in that picture? :lol

Pink phones are Sidekicks. Why would they run WP7?

It's a little perplexing yeah. They probably did it on purpose as a joke though. :P

They'd run WP7 because... they're being made by Microsoft? Well Danger really, but they're closer to Apple's model than Android's so I expected it to run their new flagship OS.
 
Tathanen said:
Just like every other time I've seen this phone (and the Zune HD for that matter), half the time when people demoing the unit try to interact with the touch screen, their touches either don't register, register wrong, or register late. This is pretty worrysome. I mean sure maybe it's early hardware/software whatever but it's been pretty consistent from the Zune HD demos to here so.. I dunno.

My Zune HD has the most responsive touch screen of any of my devices.
 
Uhh most of the time idiots demo touchscreens with the camera facing the object while it is sitting on a table, and for whatever reason touchscreens are not responsive when they are on an object and are just being poked at. This happens with my MyTouch.

That said, the Zune is BY FAR the most responsive with touch and orientation.
 
Jewbacca said:
That said, the Zune is BY FAR the most responsive with touch and orientation.

Well, as Microsoft's rep set during the Engadget interview -- Microsoft has long been working on touch-enabled technology. What's cool about WP7series is that their engineers are finally bringing all their projects together -- XBOX, XNA, Bing, Surface, etc.

It's so exciting when you see that such a large corporation can still reinvent itself.

How many organizations do we wish could do this? The USPS...the entire government of Greece...
 
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/06/microsoft-shows-off-single-game-running-on-windows-windows-phon/

Guess we don't have to wait until MIX to have all our Windows Phone 7 Series questions answered! Microsoft's Eric Rudder, speaking at TechEd Middle East, showed off a game developed in Visual Studio as a singular project (with 90% shared code) that plays on Windows with a keyboard, a Windows Phone 7 Series prototype device with accelerometer and touch controls, and the Xbox 360 with the Xbox gamepad. Interestingly, not only is the development cross-platform friendly, but the game itself (a simple Indiana Jones platformer was demoed) saves its place and lets you resume from that spot on whichever platform you happen to pick up. Pretty impressive stuff, and while the words "Windows Phone 7 Series" weren't spoken by Eric, the use of the prototype ASUS device and the clear emphasis that this would place on Xbox Live for making the magic happen make it obvious that this is the "wave of the future" for all three platforms -- at least for casual gaming. Check out the demo on video below the fold.

Holyshit! Video at the link!
 
There is a huge possibility that I will own a winpho7 series device this fall. I'm just waiting for zune pass compatibilty confirmation, hopefully over 3g. That will make it the best music device in history.
 
PSGames said:
None blown up view:

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One thing you gotta give em credit for is the UI looks nothing like anything else on the market.
The home screen is actually similar to the one we first saw on the Nokia N97 and later other S60 5th edition touch devices:

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MS took the concept further though, allowing pretty much anything to be a live tile. i'm hoping we'll see additional live tiles in Marketplace. A tile with the number of unread emails i have isn't that useful. i'd rather have something closer to what we see on the N97.
 
So, XNA 4.0 allows you to make games for Windows, Xbox 360 and Windows Phone 7 devices. Guess who's missing? Yeah, right. The Zune HD, which won't get any of the games from the Windows Phone 7 Series Marketplace. It makes sense though, since it's not the same platform (neither the same hardware nor the same OS). It's more likely that Microsoft will release a "Zune HD2" by the end of the year, based on the same Qualcomm platform minus the phone capabilities.

Microsoft adds XNA Game Studio 4.0 to its Windows Phone 7 arsenal

Looks like the Zune HD wasn't Microsofts iPod touch after all.
 
brotkasten said:
So, XNA 4.0 allows you to make games for Windows, Xbox 360 and Windows Phone 7 devices. Guess who's missing? Yeah, right. The Zune HD, which won't get any of the games from the Windows Phone 7 Series Marketplace. It makes sense though, since it's not the same platform (neither the same hardware nor the same OS). It's more likely that Microsoft will release a "Zune HD2" by the end of the year, based on the same Qualcomm platform minus the phone capabilities.

Microsoft adds XNA Game Studio 4.0 to its Windows Phone 7 arsenal

Looks like the Zune HD wasn't Microsofts iPod touch after all.
yeah this is the thought thats been floating around the various zune sites the past month 1/2 or so. zune hd users being basically beta testers for what was to come in the "new" windows phone. it would explain why there was no advertising at all for the hd. it was sent to die basically. too bad, its a great device with a nice interface. guess thats why its the backbone of winmo 7.
 
MS gunning so hard for Qualcomm is a bit funny to me considering their Wintel domination in the PC space. Heh.
 
“We tested this (migration of Zune games to Windows Phone 7) a lot during development and had games like Hexic and Goo Splat up and running in an hour or so, it’s very easy!” Klucher blogged.
Ok yes. I need a Windows 7 Phone.
 
Dosia said:
It looks like a freakin brick.
It's a mockup. i'm sure there'll be a decent variety of sizes given the fact that a number of OEMs are making WP7 phones. We've already seen the LG proto which is smaller than the mockup.

What does bug me is their insistence to use light fonts atop random photos with no way to visually separate the two. It might sound cool in theory but it makes it really hard to read information at a glance.
 
Looks pretty good so far.

There's also a press release of app partners on WP7 with images.

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App Partners
The Associated Press
Archetype International
AWS Convergence Technologies -- Weatherbug
Citrix Systems
Clarity Consulting
Cypress Consulting
EA Mobile
Fandango
Foursquare
frog design
Glu Mobile
Graphic.ly
Hudson Entertainment
IdentityMine
IMDB
Larva Labs
Match.com
Matchbox Mobile
Microsoft Game Studios
Namco
Oberon Media
Pageonce
Pandora
Photobucket
PopCap Games
Seesmic
Shazam
Sling Media
SPB Software
Stimulant
TeleCommunications Systems
Touchality
Vertigo Software

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/microsoft-announces-windows-phone-7-series-dev-partners-sling/
http://gizmodo.com/5493569/windows-...modo/full+(Gizmodo)&utm_content=Google+Reader
 
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